Star Frontiers KnightHawks

[bayonetbrant]

Opening up a discussion for anyone wanting to chatter about this venerable space wargame



https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/10676/star-frontiers-knight-hawks

[Toadkillerdog]

"...victory may be lodged in a single roll of the dice!"

One of the few I attempt to (re)add to my collection from time to time.

[bayonetbrant]

I think that's one that could definitely be cleaned up and re-released today to some modest success

Unfortunately, given the leadership over at the company that currently owns the rights, it would be buried under the bloat of collectible toys instead of counters on a map

[W8taminute]

Thanks for opening up this thread brant! 

When I get home this weekend I'll share some screen shots of what I have been doing with KnightHawks recently. 

[W8taminute]

Rather than start a new thread I'd thought I'd share here one of many side projects I'm working on.  Disappointed by a lack of space 4x games the way I want them I decided to fiddle around making my own of sorts.  I've based my design on the Knighthawks system. 

Here is a galaxy overview using the standard game map from Star Frontiers:



And here is some data on the Sathar Empires territory.



I'm using the Knighthawks system for ship combat and a mixture of the old Avalon Hill game 'Stellar Conquest' plus my own gaming experience for the population growth.  Knighthawks has a pretty good foundation for galaxy economy and with some modification I'm using that to generate income.  Income can be used for buying ships, hiring/drafting soldiers into the army, and I'm toying with trying to figure out how to train personnel for the navy in order to crew ships.

[bayonetbrant]

Looks pretty cool!

[Putraack]

I remember really liking this game, and one middle-school summer spent playing at least some of the 2nd Sathar War campaign.

About 8 years ago, I was running a (Mongoose) Traveller game, but was a little unhappy with the way ship combat worked there, once multiple ships were involved, and the players were setting a big fight with lots of pirates and Aslan ships. I dusted off KH and made up sheets for a lot of ships converted from Traveller. When the big battle happened, I gave each player control over a faction with a dozen or so ships, and quickly taught them the KH rules. Within an hour, we'd knocked down a turn of play, with something like 60 ships involved! It was fun and flowed nicely!

So, this game remains one of my favorites of all time.

[Putraack]

Is anyone (else) following Star Frontiersman and/or Frontier Explorer web-fan-zines? There are occasional ship designs and sometimes KH scenarios there.

[W8taminute]

Is anyone (else) following Star Frontiersman and/or Frontier Explorer web-fan-zines? There are occasional ship designs and sometimes KH scenarios there.

Wait those are still active?  I could have sworn when I was searching for KH material that those sites are no longer active, or at least most of the links on them are broken.

[TTC]

I loved playing that in high school.

How did I find the time to play all these games?

[Putraack]

Is anyone (else) following Star Frontiersman and/or Frontier Explorer web-fan-zines? There are occasional ship designs and sometimes KH scenarios there.

Wait those are still active?  I could have sworn when I was searching for KH material that those sites are no longer active, or at least most of the links on them are broken.

They are still available-- free-- on drivethrurpg.com. Star Frontiersman stopped at #25, Frontier Explorer is creeping out a few issues per year, the most recent is #36.

[Putraack]

Next question: did you know there is a VASSAL module for SF:KH? I have it, but I haven't anyone to play it with yet.

Lee

[bayonetbrant]

Next question: did you know there is a VASSAL module for SF:KH? I have it, but I haven't anyone to play it with yet.

Lee

Dude, VASSAL & I hate each other soooooooo much 

[W8taminute]

Next question: did you know there is a VASSAL module for SF:KH? I have it, but I haven't anyone to play it with yet.

Lee

Yes there is a Vassal mod for this game.

https://vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:Knight_Hawks

[Putraack]

Next question: did you know there is a VASSAL module for SF:KH? I have it, but I haven't anyone to play it with yet.

Lee

Dude, VASSAL & I hate each other soooooooo much 

So what you're saying is I should bring KH to BGF or Origins for a nostalgia game?