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Title: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: Barthheart on August 24, 2023, 03:01:08 PM
Computer version of the board game was released today on Steam.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2009780/War_and_Peace/
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: bbmike on August 24, 2023, 06:24:19 PM
Looks like it's getting flak for not having complete AI at release (which the developer was open about before). Not an issue for me but I can't tell if you can play it hotseat on the same computer.
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: Barthheart on August 24, 2023, 06:27:42 PM
Well you can play single player only, ie without AI, so I would assume you could use that method.
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: TTC on August 24, 2023, 09:01:41 PM
I messed around with some of the tutorials today. It seems like a solid port of the boardgame, and I only had one major bug issue.
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 24, 2023, 11:12:15 PM
So who is going to shoot over a half a dozen first impression screenshots for us?  :cowboy:
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: Sir Slash on August 24, 2023, 11:19:56 PM
Gee...I don't know. Do we have any people around here that have experience with Napoleoic games?  :hehe:
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 25, 2023, 10:02:03 AM
Do we have any people around here that have experience with Napoleoic games?  :hehe:

That is certainly a conundrum.

I almost bought it the other day...like I need more games on Steam or otherwise.  :(
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: Sir Slash on August 25, 2023, 11:19:52 AM
 :biggrin:  I couldn't win the board game playing against humans, it'd be a real embarrassment if I couldn't win playing against myself.  :-[
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: bob48 on August 25, 2023, 04:18:39 PM
It looks quite good - worth keeping an eye on to see how it develops.

..or you could buy this version......

https://secondchancegames.com/index.php/napoleonic/war-and-peace-game-of-the-napoleonic-wars-6th-edition-10617-14908-detail

 ::)
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 25, 2023, 04:19:55 PM
Bloody 300 quid for a bloody game in the bloody UK

Bleedin' insanity innit
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: bob48 on August 25, 2023, 04:51:59 PM
Yup, fairly typical, sadly.

Just as well I don't want it, really.  ;D
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: Putraack on August 31, 2023, 02:54:53 PM
I bought it and have made it through the tutorial so far.

I like it, and I loved the old game, too. I have, but still haven't punched, the new edition.
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: Sir Slash on September 01, 2023, 11:59:50 AM
Keep those opinions coming Putraack, I got my fingers crossed for this one.  :fingerscrossed:
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: besilarius on September 01, 2023, 01:49:33 PM
When AH released the board game, a number of our group felt the game mechanics revolved too much about the superior generals of the French.  Too much seemed to follow the script of the French win here, then they win tbere.  You had to follow a similar historical path.
Anyone else had that feeling?
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: BanzaiCat on September 01, 2023, 02:00:01 PM
Interesting take. Same could be said, I imagine, of Third Reich or World In Flames.

Take Poland, take the West, invade Russia, repeat. Would be interesting to hear about diverging paths.
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: TTC on September 01, 2023, 02:11:12 PM
I keep wanting to play this, but every time I get some free time, my wife insists we play Baldur's Gate. :)
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: Sir Slash on September 01, 2023, 10:43:10 PM
I would hang-on to that one if I were you.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: Zovs on January 10, 2024, 11:47:05 AM
I picked this up in the winter sale on Steam, it's a pretty good recreation of the original board wargame. The UI is a little different and there is no AI for the grand campaign but there is for the smaller scenarios.

I played through a couple of turns and rounds of the 1800 Marengo scenario as the French (the scenarios or a few of them have an AI) and here are some screenshots:

The loading screen.
(https://i.imgur.com/98rbhGx.jpg)

Zoomed out situation at start.
(https://i.imgur.com/ELRipOa.jpg)

Zoomed in and with a hex selected.
(https://i.imgur.com/5llmXH7.jpg)

Reinforcements.
(https://i.imgur.com/nUr9h0R.png)

Some movement to potentially do.
(https://i.imgur.com/3O16ji0.jpg)

A not great odds attack.
(https://i.imgur.com/m9tHONW.png)

The results.
(https://i.imgur.com/G1mOvbF.png)

The next turn.
(https://i.imgur.com/6bJsKaY.png)

New starting positions.
(https://i.imgur.com/Eo91edc.jpg)

The events (a place where you can see what just happened in the previous battles and th whole game).
(https://i.imgur.com/OLQMhTR.png)

Final positions at the end of the last turn I just did.
(https://i.imgur.com/WKmqyvI.jpg)

You should be able to click on an image to make it a bit larger.
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 10, 2024, 12:10:51 PM
I keep trying to talk myself into that one but I also just picked up Labyrinth on the winter sale so I think I'm probably covered for a little bit
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 10, 2024, 12:11:20 PM
Nice walk through with those screenshots. Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: Zovs on January 10, 2024, 12:37:32 PM
Got you on your game (not sure what Layberneith is about, but I get you) I got W&P for like 10 off or 15 off or something during the sale.

I also used to play the AH board wargame back in the 80s but I forgotten all the rules lol. The game comes with rules of one of the versions of W&P.

Thanks for the tip of the hat on the screen walkthroughs.
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: Sir Slash on January 10, 2024, 11:21:00 PM
I agree, great pics. I'm glad there's now an AI Opponent to play against in some of the scenarios. On my Wishlist.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: Putraack on January 17, 2024, 05:16:29 PM
I talked my brother (original opponent for the boardgame) into buying this W&P, too. We found that it's very slow to play head-to-head with this electronic version. It seems to assume that you want to play asynchronously, a la PBEM.
 - I play part of a turn, then save & close the game.
 - Opponent opens the game, reacts, then saves & closes the game.
 - I play more of the turn, save & close.
 -  repeat.

Not at all the thing to play in one sitting, IMO.
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: Sir Slash on January 17, 2024, 10:42:33 PM
Interesting. Thanks for the info.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: bbmike on January 18, 2024, 09:08:46 AM
That sounds like the way the old AGEOD games played in 'Hotseat' mode. Not really 'Hotseat' but a workaround I guess.
Title: Re: War and Peace - computer version
Post by: Putraack on January 19, 2024, 11:04:14 AM
It reminds me of how Axis & Allies plays on Steam, though that can also be played in one sitting.