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That is sad indeed.



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I've never found any depth of discussion on any topic over at Reddit....

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He further argued that warfare hadn't change appreciably in 2000 years, so things like order delays in SOW:W were a video game conceit and had nothing to do with historical accuracy in a wargame.


and this is why wargaming will remain a hobby for more mature gamers - a broader scope of historical understanding that youngsters just haven't lived long enough to full grasp

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I’ve never read anything on reddit.



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I am not uniformly enamored of Compass’ products and QA.

Nor am I, but they are turning out games at a prodigious rate and show no signs of slowing in the near term.

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And, clearly, neither GenCon nor Origins is all that interested.  Certainly the vendors themselves are not interested in them.

I appreciate the work you guys have put in at Origins, but having attended recently I can say with some confidence that it is not a wargaming convention nor does it seem all that interested in really supporting the hobby. That said, there are plenty of other cons out there that are more aligned with and supportive of the hobby.
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On a side note: I don’t understand the COIN games are not war games sentiment.

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RE: Reddit - It enjoy browsing a few of the subs, but I don't post there and I don't consider it a good source for information or discourse when it comes to gaming topics.

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On a side note: I don’t understand the COIN games are not war games sentiment.

ACK! Do not open that can!!!!  :doh:

I'm staying out of this one :P

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On a side note: I don’t understand the COIN games are not war games sentiment.

ACK! Do not open that can!!!!  :doh:

It’s not like I’m suggesting you clip the corners on the wooden bits.



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He further argued that warfare hadn't change appreciably in 2000 years, so things like order delays in SOW:W were a video game conceit and had nothing to do with historical accuracy in a wargame.


and this is why wargaming will remain a hobby for more mature gamers - a broader scope of historical understanding that youngsters just haven't lived long enough to full grasp

I wasn't "mature" when I got into the hobby. I bought my first AH game, Luftwaffe, when I was 14. All it takes is a little reading of history and literally anyone can understand how wrong that young man was. Maybe it's a failure of history teachings at a young age? I don't have kids so have no read on that subject but I know I love history in high school.

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people will scoff at the rudimentary rules of today’s game like many today scoff at games like Gettysburg and Stalingrad.

They won't scoff if they play something like Barbarossa: Kiev to Rostov or Operation Dauntless.
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That is sad indeed.

Actually, the sad thing was that there was no indication that there was any possibility of discussion. Things were that way, and that was it. It was an argument, not a discussion, and the only thing that mattered was winning. He was right, period. A quick review of his (one year old) comment history showed that every comment he made was in that vein.

Which is the problem with online discussion in general, and online discussions of wargaming specifically. That's the problem with a large segment of what you find on Youtube, Facebook, or Reddit about wargaming or specific games.  People don't want to talk about their hobby, they want you to agree with their opinion on their hobby. I find it's a complete waste of time to frequent those venues anymore. It's the same type of people I keep running into at Origins.

I'm much happier sitting down every Thursday with my regular gaming opponent. We play, we discuss the game, we discuss the hobby (we are both involved as designers/developers), and we have an enjoyable time. I'd love more of a "club" environment where multiple people did the same regularly.


I actually don't really like games.

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I appreciate the work you guys have put in at Origins, but having attended recently I can say with some confidence that it is not a wargaming convention nor does it seem all that interested in really supporting the hobby. That said, there are plenty of other cons out there that are more aligned with and supportive of the hobby.

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He further argued that warfare hadn't change appreciably in 2000 years, so things like order delays in SOW:W were a video game conceit and had nothing to do with historical accuracy in a wargame.


and this is why wargaming will remain a hobby for more mature gamers - a broader scope of historical understanding that youngsters just haven't lived long enough to full grasp

I wasn't "mature" when I got into the hobby. I bought my first AH game, Luftwaffe, when I was 14. All it takes is a little reading of history and literally anyone can understand how wrong that young man was. Maybe it's a failure of history teachings at a young age? I don't have kids so have no read on that subject but I know I love history in high school.

I think part of it is a failure of teaching history in those early years. I know I really didn't like history until my college years. The teachers who taught me before then did not seem to care about the subject at all.

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... I'd love more of a "club" environment where multiple people did the same regularly.

Jim's doing a fine job with Saturday Night Fights to create just that.

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