Oldest fort in america found

[besilarius]

https://news.umich.edu/oldest-european-fort-in-the-inland-us-discovered-in-appalachians/

Did not know that the spanish got to western North Carolina.

[bbmike]

Huh, that is interesting. Especially the part about the gold.

[mcguire]

I didn't think the Mississippians still existed when Europeans reached their territory.

Oh, and in the "feel good" category (or at least "feel better than some other fool"):

Pardo led a second expedition from September 1, 1567 to March 2, 1568, and explored the Piedmont interior and south along the Appalachian Mountains. He established an additional five forts to the west of Joara, intended to supply a land route to Zacatecas in present-day Mexico, where the Spanish had silver mines they wanted to protect. The Spanish mistakenly thought the Appalachians were connected to a central Mexican mountain range.

-- Juan Pardo

That's about 1600 miles as the crow flies (or the Spanish soldier swims---it crosses the Gulf).

I wonder if Jim had anything to do....Nope. Not going there. No way.

[Martok]

Fascinating stuff!  I had no idea the Spanish had a presence that deep into the interior. 

[judgedredd]

lol - 1567 - that's not history!

There's a castle in Colchester that was built in 1076AD and that was built on the ruins of the Roman Temple of Claudius that was raised to the ground by Boudica in 60AD or something

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Claudius,_Colchester#Boudican_revolt_and_aftermath

Sorry - I'm suitably impressed 

[bob48]

For a sense of really old, you should walk around Housesteads;

[BanzaiCat]

Was gonna say:

The U.S.: "Our oldest fort is about 450 years old!"

The UK: "Isn't that cute"

[judgedredd]

lol 

[bayonetbrant]

I was looking for a YouTube clip of the Eddie is your routine where he's talking about "I'm from Europe, where the history comes from..." But they've got damn near every other snippet from the Dress to Kill special except that one

[Sir Slash]

Got to stick-up for the U.S. here. The fort in St. Augustine, Fl. is probably the oldest in the continental U.S. and.....WAS NEVER TAKEN IN BATTLE. 

[bbmike]

That's because no one wanted St. Augustine, FL. 

[Sir Slash]

I would've said it differently. Everybody wanted St. Augustine except for whoever owned it.

[bbmike]

I think the mosquitos owned it. 

[thecommandtent]

I think the mosquitos owned it. 

This

[Sir Slash]

They still have a lease.