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Author Topic: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier  (Read 13163 times)

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on: April 20, 2019, 05:53:30 PM

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Reply #1 on: April 20, 2019, 06:27:49 PM
That is very interesting. I'd not heard of that ship before.

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Reply #2 on: April 20, 2019, 06:51:24 PM
Admiral Charley Lockwood produced the television show, Silent Service.  He wanted to ensure that the work of his submariners was not forgotten.
Here is the episode on Archerfish and Joe Enright.  The captain may be familiar to most Dragoons.


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Reply #3 on: April 20, 2019, 07:09:39 PM
Another carrier sunk by a submarine was Shokako.

http://www.combinedfleet.com/shoksink.htm

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"We've got the torpedo damage temporarily shored up, the fires out and soon will have the ship back on an even keel. But I would suggest, sir, that if you have to take any more torpedoes, you take 'em on the starboard side."   Pops Healy, DCA USS Lexington.

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Reply #4 on: April 20, 2019, 07:31:42 PM
Quote from: besilarius on April 20, 2019, 07:09:39 PM
Another carrier sunk by a submarine was Shokako.

http://www.combinedfleet.com/shoksink.htm

Another was the USN Block Island, sunk not by an IJN sub but by a U-boot.

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Reply #5 on: April 20, 2019, 07:42:57 PM
Is that DeForest Kelley?  :o

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Reply #6 on: April 20, 2019, 08:31:15 PM
If so, it would be the only other thing besides Star Trek I've ever seen him in. The first was the gloriously bad mutant-rabbit scifi film 'Night of the Lepus'.

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Reply #7 on: April 20, 2019, 08:46:58 PM
Night of the Lepus is all kinds of amazing!

...if you watch the Rifftrax version of course

https://www.rifftrax.com/night-of-the-lepus

More on topic, has anyone ever read Shinano!?

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Reply #8 on: April 20, 2019, 08:51:54 PM

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Reply #9 on: April 20, 2019, 09:06:06 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 20, 2019, 08:31:15 PM
If so, it would be the only other thing besides Star Trek I've ever seen him in. The first was the gloriously bad mutant-rabbit scifi film 'Night of the Lepus'.


He was in an older episode of Wild Wild West, too

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Reply #10 on: April 20, 2019, 09:31:16 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on April 20, 2019, 09:06:06 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 20, 2019, 08:31:15 PM
If so, it would be the only other thing besides Star Trek I've ever seen him in. The first was the gloriously bad mutant-rabbit scifi film 'Night of the Lepus'.


He was in an older episode of Wild Wild West, too

Oddly, he bears a passing resemblance to Ross Martin as well...  ???

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Reply #11 on: April 21, 2019, 12:04:17 AM
Dee Kelly was in a lot of westerns and a regular on television series. 
I know he was in a Henry Ford western, Warlock, and a couple of Untouchable episodes.  Think he met Leonard Nimoy on that show.

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Reply #12 on: April 21, 2019, 09:27:24 AM
I watched Warlock the other day. DeForest played the role of Curley in it. Great movie.

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Reply #13 on: April 21, 2019, 12:15:48 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on April 20, 2019, 05:53:30 PM
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/how-us-navy-sunk-imperial-japans-top-secret-aircraft-carrier-53352

Good write-up. 

I first read an article about the Shinano and her sinking when I was 11-12 years old.  The story has always stuck with me, at least in part because of the unusual decision of the High Command to switch from building a battleship to a carrier mid-construction. 


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Reply #14 on: April 21, 2019, 02:12:38 PM
Quote from: Martok on April 21, 2019, 12:15:48 PM
  The story has always stuck with me, at least in part because of the unusual decision of the High Command to switch from building a battleship to a carrier mid-construction.

I could be misremembering, but I thought I read somewhere that the IJN wasn't actually planning to send the Shinano into combat right away but first use it as a kind of defended aircraft ferry to get land-based planes out to beleaguered Japanese territories that were running critically low on airframes due to attrition.

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