...and while we're at it..........

[bbmike]

Maybe just use dates (a timeline) instead?

[bbmike]

I'm going to suggest that rather than the somewhat vague forum description that seems to be at the root of the confusion, "Age of Gunpowder" means from the invasion of Italy by Charles VIII of France in 1494 to the end of the 19th Century.  WWI and definitely WWII should be in "The Modern World."

Wikipedia seems to follow this. It states that the Age of Gunpowder is considered to end around 1902.

[bayonetbrant]

I could just create one mass "wargaming" forum and let y'all figure it out yourselves.


I was trying to avoid the endless CSW-style rabbit-holes of endless granularity

[BanzaiCat]

There's a little gray area between Gunpowder and Modern, at least to me.

[bob48]

I could just create one mass "wargaming" forum and let y'all figure it out yourselves.


I was trying to avoid the endless CSW-style rabbit-holes of endless granularity

I really think a break point between 19th and 20th centuries would do the trick.

[bbmike]

^I'll second that. 

[bayonetbrant]

You guys are some whiny bastards...  there you go

[bob48]

Merely seeking a mutually acceptable solution that satisfies all interested parties! 

[BanzaiCat]

 

Uhm technically the internal combustion engine was developed in 1859 soooo  uhmllll

[bob48]

Ok, I'm just gonna randomly place stuff around too.

I've given up on strategic level East Front board games. I've come to the conclusion that they only really work on the PC.

In that case, any recommendations please?

[BanzaiCat]

Eastern Front Solitaire by Omega Games is a great title. It doesn't get a lot of love but it's pretty simple, large-scale, and easy to play in one sitting.

[bob48]

I was really referring to PC games, as alluded to by Barth. But thanks anyway 

[Staggerwing]

Uhm technically the internal combustion engine was developed in 1859 soooo  uhmllll

You could also argue that mechanized warfare started in the 1860s when countries started moving large numbers of troops by train.

Still, we need some kind of delineation so a year-based one is probably best.

[Barthheart]

Ok, I'm just gonna randomly place stuff around too.

I've given up on strategic level East Front board games. I've come to the conclusion that they only really work on the PC.

In that case, any recommendations please?

Best, for me, is DC3 Decisive Command: Barbarossa. Excellent all round experience. And playing the Germans is very different from playing the Russians. Not too many unit so you get bored of moving stuff, but enough so you get a proper feel for the scale.
Easy to just jump in and start pushing units around and blowing shit up. But deep enough if you want to spend the time to learn the detailed combat system.
Really can not say enough good things about the game.

[bob48]

Thanks for the tip, and yes, I have heard good things about it. However, and not wishing to nit-pick, but isn't this an operational level game (Divisions) where as what we were originally talking about was strategic (corps - army) level?