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Title: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 21, 2019, 08:40:36 AM
https://flyingpiggames.com/products/old-school-tactical-vol-iii (https://flyingpiggames.com/products/old-school-tactical-vol-iii)


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Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: bbmike on May 21, 2019, 08:51:26 AM
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Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 21, 2019, 09:21:24 AM
maybe you can get a quick demo or first impressions article out of it at Origins?  :)
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: Barthheart on May 21, 2019, 11:16:47 AM
Meh... Pacific ground war does nothing for me. The series is good though so this should be as well.
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: bbmike on May 21, 2019, 11:21:00 AM
Meh... Pacific ground war does nothing for me. The series is good though so this should be as well.

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Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: Barthheart on May 21, 2019, 11:26:17 AM
Bring it on Gubment boy.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: bbmike on June 28, 2019, 09:12:57 AM
The Kickstarter is live and funded in 4 hours! Old School Tactical VOL III: The Pacific Theater (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/markhwalker/old-school-tactical-vol-iii-the-pacific-theater)
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: Barthheart on June 28, 2019, 10:36:58 AM
The OST system is pretty good solo. There's no hidden info (not sure about this module though re: Japanese spider holes) and the play is impulse driven so it's easy to just do the best for both sides.
There is no dedicated solo system though.
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: bbmike on April 02, 2020, 05:55:35 PM
"Your Old School Tactical Vol III pledge has shipped!"

Sad part is it will go to the UPS Store so I won't be able to pick it up any time soon.  :(
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: beetcafe on April 04, 2020, 06:39:25 PM
Mine arrived today.
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: judgedredd on June 18, 2020, 02:08:59 PM
Someone talk me out of buying Old School Tactical

Or talk me into it...either way I don't mind.

What's the good and the bad? Is it the same as LnL Tactical or Ghost Panzers or Company of Heroes?
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: bayonetbrant on June 18, 2020, 02:30:28 PM
same scale as LNLT or ASL


to me, there are some bad graphic design choices in it, but I haven't played it to comment on the quality of the game.


Barth should be able to help you out though - he's got them.
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: judgedredd on June 18, 2020, 02:38:12 PM
same scale as LNLT or ASL


to me, there are some bad graphic design choices in it, but I haven't played it to comment on the quality of the game.


Barth should be able to help you out though - he's got them.
Thanks Brant.

Would you care to elaborate on the bad graphics design choices?
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: Barthheart on June 18, 2020, 02:39:38 PM
DO IT!  :D

Pros:
Beautiful counters and maps.
Counters are large and easy to read.
Rules are simple and straight forward.
Design, Shayne Logan, very active on BGG answering questions. Nice guy in person too.
Impulse system - Roll separately for points at start of turn, spend points to activate units in ones and twos. When you are out of points you can't do anything more that turn.
Plays well solo because of impulse system.

Cons:
Maps are HUGE and one piece. So need a large table. Also some (most) scenarios only use a small part of the map at a time.
Rules organization a little scattered.
Impulse system - rolling for points can lead to large swings in ability to do stuff each turn. I like this adds a bit of chaos, but has been a complaint.
Game boxes are large and non-standard sizes.

Plays very differently from the rest.
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: bayonetbrant on June 18, 2020, 03:19:16 PM
Would you care to elaborate on the bad graphics design choices?
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: judgedredd on June 18, 2020, 05:29:42 PM
Whilst I don't mind the font - I do see them as non standard and may play tricks with people's eyes. Also white text without a border is not a great idea.

I might still get them though. I'm selling my old computer kit on eBay - so I might have some funds soon to splurge.

Problem is - those maps. I'm all for big, mounted maps - but my "foldable" map board will not support that size of map. I have a small issue (by a couple of inches) with the map that comes with Combat! which is only 22" x 34"...the maps for the these games are 30" x 41"

I'm still on the prowl it seems.

Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: judgedredd on June 19, 2020, 06:25:39 AM
Here's a question - why do they make the boards so big? It makes sense to have lots of little boards ala LnL. There's a similar thing in Combat!, Battle Hymn:Gettysburg and Silver Bayonet - all big maps but you play on a fraction of them for a large portion of the scenarios.

Also - just a question to you hard core board gamers out there - when you are playing on a portion of the map, how do you frame off the rest of it?
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: Barthheart on June 19, 2020, 07:01:57 AM
Why not make big boards!  :D They look impressive and these really are very nice looking maps. Have you seen the Stalingrad map?

(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/original/img/ql8lvDuF6YO0mF1wsf2TH4qLOK4=/0x0/pic3066237.jpg)

For framing, the do give you four counters to mark the corners of the playing area. I use those. I've seen some use the charts to line the  edges of the play area. But I like seeing the entire map even if I'm not using it.
 
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: judgedredd on June 19, 2020, 09:24:10 AM
Why not make big boards!  :D They look impressive and these really are very nice looking maps. Have you seen the Stalingrad map?

(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/original/img/ql8lvDuF6YO0mF1wsf2TH4qLOK4=/0x0/pic3066237.jpg)

For framing, the do give you four counters to mark the corners of the playing area. I use those. I've seen some use the charts to line the  edges of the play area. But I like seeing the entire map even if I'm not using it.
Oh aye - they are beautiful. I want the Stalingrad 44 game and the Normandy 44 game...but I can't get 'em because the maps are too big  :'(
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: bayonetbrant on June 19, 2020, 09:30:18 AM
Clearly you need to get the missus to let you build a game shed out in the garden
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: judgedredd on June 19, 2020, 11:08:45 AM
Well - I pretty much got an extension built on the house and stole it as my PC room, TV room, modelling room. No space for a game board  :'(
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: mirth on June 19, 2020, 11:12:36 AM
my PC room, TV room, modelling room.

This is hardship.
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: judgedredd on June 19, 2020, 02:53:28 PM
I think the hardship is I didn't make it big enough to have a boardgaming section 😝
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: mirth on June 19, 2020, 02:59:54 PM
I think the hardship is I didn't make it big enough to have a boardgaming section 😝

Not hardship, that's just poor planning.
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: judgedredd on June 26, 2020, 05:13:41 AM
mmm. Measured the dining room table and there's enough space for the board.

I've been watching videos and that's normally an indicator that I'm on the verge of buying. It's now a slippery slope that I'm not really in any control on.

Just waiting to see if I can find stock of Vol II. If not, then Vol III is getting it!
Title: Re: Flying Pig announces OST Vol 3, in the Pacific
Post by: judgedredd on June 30, 2020, 11:11:09 AM
You guys weren't kidding about non-standard game boxes

Old School Tactical and Hell Bent
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Playbook
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Rulebook
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Player Aid Cards
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Counters
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Luck Cards
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Hell Bent Scenarios
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One Counter Sheet
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Part of a giant map
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