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Title: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: ojsdad on October 19, 2019, 08:53:36 AM
https://www.paradoxplaza.com/crusader-kings-iii/CKCK03GSK0000001-MASTER.html

Introduction
An Heir Is Born
Crusader Kings III is the newest generation of Paradox Development Studio’s beloved medieval role-playing grand strategy game. Expand and improve your realm, whether a mighty kingdom or modest county. Use marriage, diplomacy and war to increase your power and prestige in a meticulously detailed map that stretches from Spain to India, Scandinavia to Central Africa.

But uneasy lies the head that wears a crown! Your cunning is your greatest weapon, and intelligence is the key to all successful strategy. Guard your life and the future of your dynasty, because enemies foreign and domestic envy your status. Engage in espionage, join political factions, punish heretics or use assassins to make sure your throne passes safely to the next generation.


Crusader Kings III is coming 2020
Main Features
Shape Your Dynasty
Guide unique characters through history, choosing lifestyles best suited to their personalities and your ambitions.

Rewrite Medieval History
Dynasties will change and adapt to changes in family and politics, swimming in a rich world of religious faith and royal pageantry.

Build a Mighty Kingdom
Use cold steel or warm words to expand your realm; war backed by cunning, and diplomacy that unites bloodlines.

Experience High Drama
Stranger than fiction stories leap off the screen, as characters plot against you and events push you to extremes.

Learn as You Go
Guided advice helps newcomers and veterans navigate a rich medieval world. In-game suggestions tip you off to paths you might not have considered.

The Usual Crusader Kings Fun
Keep a stubborn council in line, scheme against your overbearing uncle or marry rich duchesses for their land and legacy.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bbmike on October 19, 2019, 09:23:52 AM
^How is that any different from CKII? (http://www.aarcentral.com/emoti/shrug.gif)
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Barthheart on October 19, 2019, 09:31:28 AM
Because it's NEW!  :P
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: mirth on October 19, 2019, 09:51:34 AM
^How is that any different from CKII? (http://www.aarcentral.com/emoti/shrug.gif)

Nice try, but you know you're going to buy it.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bbmike on October 19, 2019, 09:53:55 AM
^How is that any different from CKII? (http://www.aarcentral.com/emoti/shrug.gif)

Nice try, but you know you're going to buy it.

I bought the first one and could never get the hang of it. I bought the second one because "new!" and could never get the hang of it. Come to think of it, yeah I probably will buy the third one. (http://www.aarcentral.com/emoti/gaah.gif)
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: ojsdad on October 19, 2019, 04:30:59 PM
I'll be interested to see what the differences are between CK2 and CK3.  If I don't think there is anything significant, then I will wait awhile to pick it up. 
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on October 19, 2019, 04:37:41 PM
Don't mention Deus Vult.  I did it once but i think I got away with it.

Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bbmike on October 19, 2019, 04:43:57 PM
I'll be interested to see what the differences are between CK2 and CK3.  If I don't think there is anything significant, then I will wait awhile to pick it up.

I agree on waiting. I still haven't picked up Imperator: Rome. I can wait until it's 50% or more off.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: panzerde on October 20, 2019, 10:27:39 PM
Don't mention Deus Vult.  I did it once but i think I got away with it.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/U6zpYes5ZAVgI/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: panzerde on October 20, 2019, 10:29:25 PM
The screenshots look cool, but I tend not to buy most computer games until they go on sale anymore. I only just picked up TW: Warhammer and Warhammer II this weekend.

I did like CK2.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Bison on October 21, 2019, 04:51:47 PM
Yeah if this is like every other Paradox grand strategy game. You might as well mark your calendar for five years from now and save up the $20 to by the entire collection after they pumped out all of the numerous DLCs.

OMG I'm turning into an old curmudgeon! Bob does the old man urge to rant and rave about everything lessen with the passage of time?
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: mirth on October 21, 2019, 04:53:49 PM
OMG I'm turning into an old curmudgeon! Bob does the old man urge to rant and rave about everything lessen with the passage of time?

It only gets worse.


(https://media1.tenor.com/images/600052865d223b1dbb7959cd6206aaa5/tenor.gif?itemid=7506146)
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Bison on October 21, 2019, 04:54:49 PM
OMG I'm turning into an old curmudgeon! Bob does the old man urge to rant and rave about everything lessen with the passage of time?

It only gets worse.


(https://media1.tenor.com/images/600052865d223b1dbb7959cd6206aaa5/tenor.gif?itemid=7506146)

Damn it. Now I need to work my shaking my fist at the clouds skills.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bob48 on October 21, 2019, 05:00:13 PM
Yeah if this is like every other Paradox grand strategy game. You might as well mark your calendar for five years from now and save up the $20 to by the entire collection after they pumped out all of the numerous DLCs.

OMG I'm turning into an old curmudgeon! Bob does the old man urge to rant and rave about everything lessen with the passage of time?

Gets worse!  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: BanzaiCat on October 21, 2019, 05:11:25 PM
Yet the love of meeples grows, innit?
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bob48 on October 21, 2019, 05:13:35 PM
Never have I uttered the 'M' word in any discussion about gaming. Never, I tell you!
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: BanzaiCat on October 21, 2019, 05:16:20 PM
 ;D

"M word?"

Master and Commander?
Memon curry?
Manky?
Metres?
Moustaches?
Muppets?
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bob48 on October 21, 2019, 05:37:01 PM
Those 'M' words are all perfectly acceptable.

Now, hush yer gob, laddie, or it'll be nae more deep fried battered Mars Bars for ye! :biggrin:
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: BanzaiCat on October 21, 2019, 05:39:41 PM
Yessir, grab your egg-and-fours and let's get the bacon delivered!
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bob48 on October 21, 2019, 05:41:57 PM
I thought that bacon delivery was Vance's department.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: mirth on October 21, 2019, 05:50:05 PM
Yet the love of meeples grows, innit?

It does not.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Bison on October 21, 2019, 05:55:57 PM
Yet the love of meeples grows, innit?

It does not.


It starts by loving cubes...
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Undercovergeek on October 22, 2019, 07:57:55 AM
Oh my

My first question would be if they had faith in all the dlc for CK2 - surely the ideas therein should be incorporated in the new edition - I’ll probably buy but hope it’s not a wash rinse repeat of the last 7 years whilst they add so much extra game on a base game that can’t handle it

It does look grown up and sexy now though
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bob48 on October 22, 2019, 08:39:46 AM
Oh my

My first question would be if they had faith in all the dlc for CK2 - surely the ideas therein should be incorporated in the new edition - I’ll probably buy but hope it’s not a wash rinse repeat of the last 7 years whilst they add so much extra game on a base game that can’t handle it

It does look grown up and sexy now though

A bit like me, you mean?  :)
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 22, 2019, 08:42:29 AM
Oh my

My first question would be if they had faith in all the dlc for CK2 - surely the ideas therein should be incorporated in the new edition - I’ll probably buy but hope it’s not a wash rinse repeat of the last 7 years whilst they add so much extra game on a base game that can’t handle it

It does look grown up and sexy now though

A bit like me, you mean?  :)


when did we ever confuse you for "grown up"?
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bob48 on October 22, 2019, 08:43:00 AM
...or sexy if it come to that..........
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Undercovergeek on October 22, 2019, 08:43:38 AM
Oh my

My first question would be if they had faith in all the dlc for CK2 - surely the ideas therein should be incorporated in the new edition - I’ll probably buy but hope it’s not a wash rinse repeat of the last 7 years whilst they add so much extra game on a base game that can’t handle it

Wizened and husk like

A bit like me, you mean?  :)

Totally
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bob48 on October 22, 2019, 08:44:30 AM
..yer cheques in the post.............
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Undercovergeek on October 22, 2019, 08:45:06 AM
Lol read it again
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: BanzaiCat on October 22, 2019, 08:45:37 AM
 :ROFL:
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bob48 on October 22, 2019, 08:47:06 AM
I see only the bits that I want to see, and ignore the rest.

Quick, while BC is rolling on the floor......Kick Him!
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: ojsdad on May 14, 2020, 12:27:30 PM
Release date of 1 Sept 2020.   Price is $50 and $75

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1158310/Crusader_Kings_III/
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bbmike on May 14, 2020, 12:37:20 PM
Having bought the first two and really never played them, I have no choice but to buy this one as well.  :P
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 14, 2020, 12:42:40 PM
Having bought the first two and really never played them, I have no choice but to buy this one as well.  :P


sound logic there
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Staggerwing on May 14, 2020, 06:12:07 PM
Having bought the first two and really never played them, I have no choice but to buy this one as well.  :P


Words I live by.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on May 14, 2020, 09:19:58 PM
I look forward to getting the Complete/Ultimate Edition in ten years, once they have announced CK4. 
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Anguille on May 18, 2020, 01:04:36 AM
I look forward to getting the Complete/Ultimate Edition in ten years, once they have announced CK4.
Lol. Yeah probably. Will finally start to play Crusader Kings 2 first!
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on May 18, 2020, 03:01:46 AM
I finally started playing CK2 again the last couple days.  It's fascinating stuff, but I freely admit I wouldn't mind a tutorial that completely held my hand through the first couple years.  Talk about your steep learning curves (and this is supposed to be one of Paradox's more accessible games?!)...  :-\ 
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Anguille on May 18, 2020, 03:12:26 AM
I finally started playing CK2 again the last couple days.  It's fascinating stuff, but I freely admit I wouldn't mind a tutorial that completely held my hand through the first couple years.  Talk about your steep learning curves (and this is supposed to be one of Paradox's more accessible games?!)...  :-\
Actually, i think it's one of the most complex games, at least, that's what i remember from playing the first one. I would say Europa Universalis 2 and Stellaris are the most accessible. I have a lot of respect for Crusader Kings 2 and will take the time to learn.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on May 18, 2020, 07:28:57 PM
I finally started playing CK2 again the last couple days.  It's fascinating stuff, but I freely admit I wouldn't mind a tutorial that completely held my hand through the first couple years.  Talk about your steep learning curves (and this is supposed to be one of Paradox's more accessible games?!)...  :-\
Actually, i think it's one of the most complex games, at least, that's what i remember from playing the first one. I would say Europa Universalis 2 and Stellaris are the most accessible. I have a lot of respect for Crusader Kings 2 and will take the time to learn.

I agree Stellaris is probably Paradox's most accessible game (at least of those produced in-house).  I do think the changes in the 2.2 update needlessly increased the learning curve, but it remains relatively easier to get into. 

I can't comment on EU2, as I don't own it.  I do own EU4, however, and some day I plan to tackle that one (although at the rate I'm going, I'll probably be retired before I get around to doing so :P ). 

Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Arctic Blast on May 20, 2020, 10:53:15 PM
I finally started playing CK2 again the last couple days.  It's fascinating stuff, but I freely admit I wouldn't mind a tutorial that completely held my hand through the first couple years.  Talk about your steep learning curves (and this is supposed to be one of Paradox's more accessible games?!)...  :-\

This is one area where (based on preview stuff) they seem to have finally sunk some time and resources in CK3. I'm looking forward to that, because I never felt like I had a clue what I was doing in 2.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 21, 2020, 07:20:05 AM
https://twitter.com/PdxInteractive/status/1263402146277490688

Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bbmike on May 21, 2020, 08:18:30 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/izyRTIOzU07dtJF2u7/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: chemkid on June 13, 2020, 04:39:06 AM
since i feel that ck2 is finally finished - yesterday i got the last missing dlc 'pagan fury- warrior queen'...

...i can start playing this monster for real this time - hook up my mouse again and - man! these songs keep my busy at night (flood of fire rocks, man!!!!)

can't wait another 8-10 years to grab ck3 when it's time has come... let's hope i got some serious hardware to run this beast in 2030!!! :)

cheers!
chem!
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on June 13, 2020, 04:58:54 PM
Incidentally:  For those interested, Paradox has just announced that CK3 will be released September 1st (2020).  That's sooner than I was expecting. 
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: ojsdad on June 13, 2020, 06:19:26 PM
Incidentally:  For those interested, Paradox has just announced that CK3 will be released September 1st (2020).  That's sooner than I was expecting. 


Release date of 1 Sept 2020.   Price is $50 and $75

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1158310/Crusader_Kings_III/
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: mirth on June 13, 2020, 06:22:28 PM
When's the release date?
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bayonetbrant on June 13, 2020, 06:38:29 PM
There's a release date?
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on June 14, 2020, 04:39:36 AM
Have I mentioned that dragonflies have better attention spans than I do?  :-[  ::) 
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: BanzaiCat on June 14, 2020, 11:49:58 AM
You dressed in drag whutnow?
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on June 15, 2020, 01:37:43 AM
Well, it was a Thursday. 
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Anguille on June 15, 2020, 05:33:16 AM
Release date of 1 Sept 2020.   Price is $50 and $75

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1158310/Crusader_Kings_III/
You mean real price for finished product: $400!

I pass.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on June 15, 2020, 08:27:22 PM
I'm starting to think I'll maybe just wait until Paradox announces CK4.  Then I can pick up CK3 for free.  ::) 
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: ojsdad on June 16, 2020, 01:09:12 PM
By spring of next year, you can start to pick it up on good discount sales. 
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: mirth on June 16, 2020, 01:14:26 PM
By spring of next year, you can start to pick it up on good discount sales.

They'll be including it with the latest version of Hearts of Iron.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on June 16, 2020, 09:01:26 PM
They'll be including it with the latest version of Hearts of Iron.

I'd sooner stab myself with a spork. 

Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 26, 2020, 11:34:33 AM
https://www.pcgamer.com/7-interesting-and-unusual-crusader-kings-3-characters-to-try/
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on September 27, 2020, 06:41:06 AM
I vote for The Naked Guy.  Although Zoroastrianism sounds fun too.  :D 
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 29, 2020, 06:30:49 PM
https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/crusader-kings-3-players-have-eaten-15-million-prisoners/
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on September 29, 2020, 08:27:49 PM
 :o  :o  :sick:  :sick: 



Borrowing a page from Stellaris' playbook, I see. 

Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: tuna on September 30, 2020, 09:09:31 AM
Don't privacy laws protect against this!!!!  :idiot2:
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 30, 2020, 09:32:43 AM
https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/crusader-kings-3-players-have-eaten-15-million-prisoners/


from the desk of "Is it a PC game article, or is it pr0n"
Quote
Infinite petting is high on the list of my desired tweaks.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on September 30, 2020, 06:02:01 PM
If that were really the case, why stop at just petting?  ::) 
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: ojsdad on December 31, 2020, 09:46:05 PM
Picked this up yesterday, but haven't fired it up yet as I have a good of Stellars going right now.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on January 01, 2021, 05:22:22 AM
I keep periodically dabbling in CK2, but that UI...uff-da. 

I love the art style, the music, the dialogue, the text descriptions, etc. -- the atmosphere and sense of immersion is fantastic.  But good gods, the game is *not* user-friendly. 


Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: ojsdad on January 01, 2021, 09:00:14 AM
Martok, when I leaned it, I just had to go in and play a few game years concentrating on leaning one or two parts of the game and how they work with the other parts I had learned.  When I first started a game, I would save.  So when I felt comfortable with what I was trying to learn, I'd restart.  Of course, not everything would work out the same, but it worked for me to learn the mechanics of the game.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: thecommandtent on January 01, 2021, 02:50:31 PM
Picked this up yesterday, but haven't fired it up yet as I have a good of Stellars going right now.

I'm still on the fence about getting this before the sale is up or hold out for a better sale later in the year.

I keep periodically dabbling in CK2, but that UI...uff-da. 

I love the art style, the music, the dialogue, the text descriptions, etc. -- the atmosphere and sense of immersion is fantastic.  But good gods, the game is *not* user-friendly. 




From some things I've read CKIII is suppose to be much better with the UI and especially helpful tool tips.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Steelie on January 01, 2021, 06:50:54 PM
Picked this up yesterday, but haven't fired it up yet as I have a good of Stellars going right now.

I'm still on the fence about getting this before the sale is up or hold out for a better sale later in the year.

I keep periodically dabbling in CK2, but that UI...uff-da. 

I love the art style, the music, the dialogue, the text descriptions, etc. -- the atmosphere and sense of immersion is fantastic.  But good gods, the game is *not* user-friendly. 


From some things I've read CKIII is suppose to be much better with the UI and especially helpful tool tips.

Like Martok, I found CKII not user friendly and with less patience than I used to have for learning new games, I never played it all that much. Reviews have stressed how much more player friendly CKIII was (and fun!) so I pulled the trigger. Planning on taking it out for a spin this weekend.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on January 01, 2021, 10:13:39 PM
Martok, when I leaned it, I just had to go in and play a few game years concentrating on leaning one or two parts of the game and how they work with the other parts I had learned.  When I first started a game, I would save.  So when I felt comfortable with what I was trying to learn, I'd restart.  Of course, not everything would work out the same, but it worked for me to learn the mechanics of the game.

Thanks, ojsdad.  The thing is, that's actually what I've tried to do, but I still end up feeling overwhelmed most of the time.  It just seems like there's just so much more to keep track of in CK2 than in most strategy games I've played.  (In comparison, even Stellaris is relatively simple, like checkers is to chess.) 




I'm still on the fence about getting this before the sale is up or hold out for a better sale later in the year.

Now is probably as good a time to purchase it as any.  Given Paradox's pricing policies, I doubt CK3 will be any cheaper this coming year, not even when the first major expansion drops (whenever that ends up being). 



For myself, I'm just not tempted by the current sale price.  Personally, $40.00 doesn't feel like a great deal to me. 

In addition, my experience with Stellaris has really made me wary of Paradox in a lot of ways.  Not that I'm under any delusions of never buying from them again -- I know I will ::) -- but both now and in the future, I'm going to be much, much more hesitant about when & where I pull the trigger on giving them (anymore of) my money. 


Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Steelie on January 01, 2021, 10:25:49 PM
Stellaris should've been a lesson to me as well, Martok, but no....I went and pre-purchased Empire of Sin. Buggy, repetitive, nowhere near as "historical" as I was hoping, no real sandbox game, the list goes on. There's potential for a great game in here....somewhere, but it was clearly rushed out the door. Maybe two years from now and three DLC's and I'll get my moneys worth. Ugh.
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on January 02, 2021, 10:21:06 AM
Maybe two years from now and three DLC's and I'll get my moneys worth. Ugh.

That's the Paradox business model in a nutshell.  ;D 


Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on May 21, 2021, 04:36:56 PM
Royal Court, CK3's first major expansion, has been announced:   


https://store.steampowered.com/app/1303182/Crusader_Kings_III_Royal_Court/






No release date yet, although indications are it will come out towards the end of this year. 


Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on August 24, 2021, 10:10:17 PM
Paradox continues its efforts to bring grand-strategy to consoles: 





Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: thecommandtent on November 23, 2021, 08:46:20 PM
Looks like the Royal Court expansion is set for Feb 8 2022. I was waiting to get back into this game until the expansion dropped so looks I'll be waiting a bit more.

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Royal Court is the first major expansion for Crusader Kings III, the award-winning grand strategy role-playing game set in the Middle Ages. Starting on February 8, 2022, armchair rulers and aspiring emperors will be able to accumulate artifacts and build new kinds of nations in one of strategy gaming’s deepest blends of politics, intrigue, and rich character-driven stories.
https://www.paradoxplaza.com/news?aid=ck3-royal-court-release-date&mtd=eyJ0aXRsZSI6IkRhdGUlMjBTZXQlMjBmb3IlMjBDcnVzYWRlciUyMEtpbmdzJTIwSUlJJTNBJTIwUm95YWwlMjBDb3VydCIsImltZyI6Ii8vaW1hZ2VzLmN0ZmFzc2V0cy5uZXQvdTczdHlmMGZhOHYxLzRZOUpFNTkzSHc1UnZtWjZNUDk5VkUvZjRkYmY1MzFlZjIyODlhYTk0M2U2OTE0YWJlZWZmZmYvQ0tfUm95YWxfQ291cnRfQmFubmVyLmpwZyIsImRlc2NyaXB0aW9uIjoiRmlyc3QlMjBNYWpvciUyMENLMyUyMEV4cGFuc2lvbiUyMFNjaGVkdWxlZCUyMGZvciUyMEZlYnJ1YXJ5In0%3D
Title: Re: Crusader Kings III Announced
Post by: Martok on November 24, 2021, 01:55:08 AM
Yep, I saw that.  Man, it seems like almost everything has been delayed until next year...  :(