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Reply #15 on: August 02, 2019, 10:27:58 AM
But that just points out what is wrong with society today... if you happen to do activity A and some who also do activity A are assholes then EVERYONE who does activity A is an asshole because you do activity A.

The problem is that the assholes are the also ones who tend to be the most vocal and become de facto the representatives for everyone.

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Reply #16 on: August 02, 2019, 10:35:00 AM
The problem is that the assholes are the also ones who tend to be the most vocal and become de facto the representatives for everyone.


this is true of pretty much any group

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Reply #17 on: August 02, 2019, 10:46:06 AM
But that just points out what is wrong with society today... if you happen to do activity A and some who also do activity A are assholes then EVERYONE who does activity A is an asshole because you do activity A.

The problem is that the assholes are the also ones who tend to be the most vocal and become de facto the representatives for everyone.

The problem is that people can't be bothered to see what the rest of any group is like... it's called fucking lazy....

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Reply #18 on: August 02, 2019, 11:05:06 AM
But that just points out what is wrong with society today... if you happen to do activity A and some who also do activity A are assholes then EVERYONE who does activity A is an asshole because you do activity A.

The problem is that the assholes are the also ones who tend to be the most vocal and become de facto the representatives for everyone.

The problem is that people can't be bothered to see what the rest of any group is like... it's called fucking lazy....

It's called perception is reality.

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Reply #19 on: August 02, 2019, 11:06:02 AM
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Reply #20 on: August 02, 2019, 11:15:10 AM
The problem is that the assholes are the also ones who tend to be the most vocal and become de facto the representatives for everyone.


this is true of pretty much any group

Sure, I just don't think it should come as a surprise to any group when they are the ones that garner attention from the larger world.

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Reply #21 on: August 02, 2019, 11:16:33 AM
I've never known any of the 'Klukkers' or SS Fan Boys to be intelligent enough to play any REAL games.  I think they're just Wargame Wannabees. So, don't paint us all with the same brush NYT.  >:(

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Reply #22 on: August 02, 2019, 11:22:35 AM
The SS fanbois definitely play. I can't say that I've found any I've encountered to be particularly intelligent or good players, but they are not uncommon within the hobby.

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Reply #23 on: August 02, 2019, 12:06:02 PM
The SS fanbois definitely play. I can't say that I've found any I've encountered to be particularly intelligent or good players, but they are not uncommon within the hobby.

I'm still relatively new to wargaming, and I find this surprising.  Although on the other hand, I'm sure they're out there just like they are in the general population, and maybe more so in a white-male-conservative-leaning hobby like wargaming, so I really shouldn't be surprised.  I never really put two and two together and thought that modern-day Nazis would play out their Nazi fantasies on the German side of a wargame.  I'm naive.


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Reply #24 on: August 02, 2019, 12:10:20 PM
I've never known any of the 'Klukkers' or SS Fan Boys to be intelligent enough to play any REAL games.  I think they're just Wargame Wannabees. So, don't paint us all with the same brush NYT.  >:(


I dunno - I didn't take that away from the article at all. 

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Reply #25 on: August 02, 2019, 12:12:17 PM
I'm still relatively new to wargaming, and I find this surprising.  Although on the other hand, I'm sure they're out there just like they are in the general population, and maybe more so in a white-male-conservative-leaning hobby like wargaming, so I really shouldn't be surprised.  I never really put two and two together and thought that modern-day Nazis would play out their Nazi fantasies on the German side of a wargame.  I'm naive.

I'm naive too. It was quite a jolt the first time I saw a dude wearing a Das Reich ball cap.



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Reply #26 on: August 02, 2019, 12:27:32 PM
I've never known any of the 'Klukkers' or SS Fan Boys to be intelligent enough to play any REAL games.  I think they're just Wargame Wannabees. So, don't paint us all with the same brush NYT.  >:(


I dunno - I didn't take that away from the article at all.

Someone in the WG thread on FB mentioned they'd seen a dude playing in the minis hall, dressed in a "full SS uniform." Wearing an SS ball cap is pretty odd, but Lord, a full flippin' SS uniform?

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Reply #27 on: August 02, 2019, 12:58:53 PM
I suspect that the crowds at most cons you attend are very different than most wargaming/minis focused cons. I can say for certain that the crowd at Origins is substantially different than say Historicon.

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Reply #28 on: August 02, 2019, 01:02:56 PM
I see a lot more idiots at Cons wearing leftist insanity glorifying communists than I do Nazi/Confederate stuff.
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Sigh... stuff like this does not help. What age were the "idiots" wearing the "leftist insanity glorifying communists" stuff? Most I'd gather were too young to even understand what they were wearing...
And just what is "leftist insanity glorifying communists" stuff?
Jackholes wearing SS anything know exactly what they are wearing....

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Reply #29 on: August 02, 2019, 01:03:46 PM
When I did E3 with the Wargamer crew back in 2003, the game Blitzkrieg was being pimped. The developer had imposing actors dressed in full Wehrmacht uniforms, sporting (fake) MP-40s. Something like that, I totally get (it certainly drew attention, which is what they wanted). Just being a random dude wanting to dress like that...well, it reminds me of the Halloween episode of South Park where Cartman dressed up like Hitler. I don't dare search for that clip here at work.  ;D

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