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Title: GG War in the East 2
Post by: bayonetbrant on March 28, 2021, 11:58:15 AM
https://www.armchairdragoons.com/articles/reviews/first-impressions-of-gary-grigsbys-war-in-the-east-2-by-matrix-games/
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Barthheart on March 28, 2021, 12:07:11 PM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: judgedredd on March 28, 2021, 12:48:51 PM
Nice one
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: bbmike on March 28, 2021, 01:02:22 PM
Much better than his Kenny G article.  :whistle:
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: judgedredd on March 28, 2021, 01:38:50 PM
Yeah good article BC 👍
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: ojsdad on March 28, 2021, 02:06:35 PM
Nice job BC.

If I remember correctly, you could set production priorities in the original WitE.  Can you do that in 2.
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: BanzaiCat on March 28, 2021, 02:24:57 PM
Much better than his Kenny G article.  :whistle:

That's not a high bar to cross  :D

If I remember correctly, you could set production priorities in the original WitE.  Can you do that in 2.

If you mean with reinforcements (new and shattered/destroyed), then yes I believe you can, but you can only build new units as the Soviet player.

Priority can be set for supply provisions by the player, so you can decide where supplies are going (e.g. you want them to go to a Panzer division before some Luftwaffe field division, etc.).



Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Steelie on March 28, 2021, 05:10:53 PM
Excellent article, BC   :bigthumb:
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Martok on March 29, 2021, 02:57:24 AM
Yeah, great write-up, BC!  Now I just have to decide whether to actually pull the trigger on this beast or not... 


Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: BanzaiCat on March 29, 2021, 09:37:11 AM
Thanks to all, glad everyone liked it. It's not easy doing a first impressions piece on such a deep game. It's like reviewing the Mariana Trench by just looking at the first ten feet of it.  ;D
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: chemkid on April 03, 2021, 08:22:21 AM
good first impressions - thanks a lot! :)
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Sir Slash on April 03, 2021, 11:07:55 AM
Great read BC. It's my understanding that the Finnish Front is abstracted like the West Front and N. Africa. Is this correct?
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: judgedredd on April 05, 2021, 02:56:48 AM
It's posts like this

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4995715

That make me scared to even open this game!
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: BanzaiCat on April 05, 2021, 10:54:06 AM
Great read BC. It's my understanding that the Finnish Front is abstracted like the West Front and N. Africa. Is this correct?

I've not dived TOO deeply into it, but from the looks of things, yes - other theaters are abstracted. They appear to affect supply and Victory Points to an extent but I'm not 100% sure about supply. Reinforcements would be interesting too - I imagine they DO impact things (e.g., Allies land in Italy, there's a demand to move troops from Russia to Italy to stem the tide). It will be interesting to learn more.

I'm going to do a deeper dive into the game and should have a review out in a month or so (May-ish). There's a lot to look at, here.
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: BanzaiCat on April 05, 2021, 10:55:20 AM
It's posts like this

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4995715

That make me scared to even open this game!

 :2funny:

This game reminds me of that War in the Pacific game that Matrix did in the 2000s. Crazy detail.
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Martok on October 28, 2021, 04:02:03 PM
WITE2 is coming to Steam December 9.  I'm curious if Slitherine will list it for the same price ($79.99) as on their store. 


https://www.matrixgames.com/news/gary-grigsbys-war-in-the-east-2-is-coming-to-steam

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1775550/Gary_Grigsbys_War_in_the_East_2/


Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Barthheart on October 28, 2021, 04:16:33 PM
Yes they will.
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Rekim on November 24, 2021, 08:48:04 AM
50% off WitE2 during the Matrix Holiday sale, which runs until 9 Jan 22.

Not sure I played the original enough to warrant the upgrade (still costing $54CDN at 1/2 price). Will have to do some digging to see if it's worth the investment (including time).
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: ojsdad on November 24, 2021, 02:41:07 PM
50% off WitE2 during the Matrix Holiday sale, which runs until 9 Jan 22.

Not sure I played the original enough to warrant the upgrade (still costing $54CDN at 1/2 price). Will have to do some digging to see if it's worth the investment (including time).

The only reason I would get this is if I knew I had others to play against. 
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Martok on November 24, 2021, 03:22:28 PM
Still tempted.  Still intimidated. 

Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Barthheart on November 24, 2021, 03:23:51 PM
Still tempted.  Still intimidated.

This.  :-[
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Rekim on November 24, 2021, 04:43:19 PM
I broke down and bought it once I realized my anniversary code still worked (thought they were only good for a couple of months). I'm not one to collect games that I do not expect to play...but at $25US for a Gary Grigsby title, it is hard to go wrong.

Now all I need is to find an audio book version of this (520 page!) manual.



Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Rekim on November 24, 2021, 04:46:12 PM
The only reason I would get this is if I knew I had others to play against.

I'd be open to some PBEM play of the smaller scenarios. I played some of them with version 1.0 so shouldn't take too long to get up and running with the basics.
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Rekim on November 28, 2021, 10:16:10 PM
And so it begins.

Sexy, if you as me

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLWf0CcuqBfDtLs6v3U_K1UWG8sGcSfUVz3zqgt3HIcv25quSz5eoChehRJllYApQZhc7UwN8kk7v0D2kZwgDHLwhkl0OPIB7vTv5TH8c16OASoYELGJ8k0oxzWj3Pk1xIKlPT4FEw6UQVndFnNPD0TK=w954-h680-no?authuser=0)
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Martok on November 30, 2021, 04:15:27 PM
Nice screeshot, Rekin.  :bigthumb:  Let us know how it goes! 


Incidentally, I see the game is back to its regular price now.  I'm guessing it was an error(?). 


Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Rekim on December 01, 2021, 01:59:36 AM
Incidentally, I see the game is back to its regular price now.  I'm guessing it was an error(?).

It seems so. The day after I purchased it it was back to the regular price. I saw comments stating that it was put on sale by mistake.
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Martok on December 01, 2021, 06:45:25 PM
A nice little article talking about the game coming to Steam.  (I still salivate when I see that humongous manual; it's almost a Pavlovian response at this point.) 


https://www.pcgamesn.com/war-in-the-east-2/steam-release-date




Incidentally, I see the game is back to its regular price now.  I'm guessing it was an error(?).

It seems so. The day after I purchased it it was back to the regular price. I saw comments stating that it was put on sale by mistake.

Yeah, that's what I figured.  Kinda wish I'd grabbed while I had the chance.  :-\ 


Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Martok on December 10, 2021, 08:26:29 PM
It'll be interesting to see how well (or not) an $80.00(USD) wargame sells on Steam. 





Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Rekim on December 10, 2021, 11:31:16 PM
It appears to be going for less than $80 on Steam. Price for me is CDN$91.99. Guessing that works out to $70USD
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 10, 2021, 11:33:50 PM
I wish I had had time to do a full-on review of this game, but it would require far too many hours that I just didn't/don't have, to do it justice.

The game is like a Magnum Opus to Eastern Front warfare.
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Martok on December 11, 2021, 04:10:59 AM
It appears to be going for less than $80 on Steam. Price for me is CDN$91.99. Guessing that works out to $70USD

The price here in the U.S. is $79.99, same as on the M/S storefront.  If Canucks are getting a discount, though, then more power to you.  8) 




I wish I had had time to do a full-on review of this game, but it would require far too many hours that I just didn't/don't have, to do it justice.

And that pretty much sums up why I haven't even purchased the game yet.  I know that to really get my money's worth, I'd have to dive into the game the way I do with Stellaris -- and I only have the time (and patience/energy) to be obsessed with one game at a time  :P 



The game is like a Magnum Opus to Eastern Front warfare.

Aye, that much is obvious.  Even a casual overview of the game blows me away with its level of detail & intricacy. 

Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Undercovergeek on December 11, 2021, 04:26:13 AM
It’s in the back of my mind but having shunned everything for 3 years to master WitP I figure I’m done with that!

Like martok I’m a one game man - it’s just deciding what game that is
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: judgedredd on December 11, 2021, 06:03:50 AM
I wish I was a one game man. I'd save a fortune and be able to dive into some of the absolute beasts I have. Unfortunately I'm a magpie.
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 11, 2021, 07:49:41 AM
I wish I was a one game man. I'd save a fortune and be able to dive into some of the absolute beasts I have. Unfortunately I'm a magpie.

 :ROFL:
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: judgedredd on December 13, 2021, 03:47:16 PM
These bloody games. Tried the intro scenario and didn't have a bloody clue what I was doing. Sending a Regiment or Battalion against a division  :groovy:

Looks like I better dig the manual out
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: Rekim on December 13, 2021, 08:07:54 PM
I've been working my way through these tutorials by Strategy Gaming Dogo. Watching the first half dozen videos included enough information to make the intro scenario's interesting. I've managed to win with both sides in Veliekiye Luki. Currently baby stepping my way up the Road to Minsk.  I'll have to break down and read the manual eventually if I want to master any of the big campaign scenarios.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSgMOSrhbsUbWBgDCap_b6ol57gYcs_8J (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSgMOSrhbsUbWBgDCap_b6ol57gYcs_8J)

Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: judgedredd on December 14, 2021, 03:16:22 PM
Thanks for the link Rekim...that will help   :hug:
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: ojsdad on June 24, 2022, 10:48:57 PM
On sale right now for $55.99
Title: Re: GG War in the East 2
Post by: BanzaiCat on June 25, 2022, 10:15:47 AM
"on sale @ 55.99"  :ROFL: