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Reply #45 on: April 11, 2021, 10:27:52 PM
Not entirely certain what prompted it, but Ben Madison got himself permanently banned from BGG. It appears that a review that found the game biased against Muslims (with some scholarly sources being relied upon in the thread) led to the designer defending himself and his game in a manner that the moderators found unbecoming. I didn't see the comments, they were all removed. Regardless, if you end up with questions related to any of his games, you'll likely need to head over to CSW to find him now.



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Reply #46 on: April 12, 2021, 08:16:37 AM
I'm not surprised. Without getting political, some of Ben's game topics are easy prey for certain people looking for problems where they don't really exist. Sad that BGG would ban him.

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Reply #47 on: April 12, 2021, 09:32:25 AM
I can't really comment without getting overly political. All I can say is Ben's designs seem thoughtful and respectful; Jeff Davis had a very touchy subject but he approached it with logic, and it made sense in the scheme of the game.

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Reply #48 on: April 12, 2021, 10:52:34 AM
The ban has been somewhat explained by Octavian on BGG here: https://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/2636861/very-biased-game/page/2

Seems Ben responded to someone who gave Islamic Jihad a rating of 1 by referring to them as the Islamic Jihad... and apparently that user had the geek badge or whatever indicating they were Muslim.

I did not go wandering into the weeds, but I seem to recall Ben having expressed some anti-Islamic views during a Space Biff podcast or something? I filed that away under This Does Not Affect Me and didn't go beyond reading the brief blurb on some Discord channel or whatever. So perhaps this was building? No idea.



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Reply #49 on: April 12, 2021, 11:00:51 AM
As a side note, I've been reading that thread as often as I can because some of it gets deleted. I've never realized how heavy-handed the forum moderation is at BGG.

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Reply #50 on: April 12, 2021, 11:37:22 AM
I wish people would find more important and concrete things to get pissed off about rather than a freakin' cardboard-and-paper board game.

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Reply #51 on: April 12, 2021, 11:55:24 AM
Yeah, totally agree with you.

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Reply #52 on: June 23, 2021, 10:56:22 PM
I hadn't heard about Madison getting exiled from BGG, but I have noticed I haven't seen him around commenting, lately, on his game pages. 

He also had some trouble a few months back with some Argentinian trolls kvetching about his honest and historically-supportable stances in Mrs. Thatcher's War, as well.   It was amusing, as a couple of them seemed completely unaware of their own history. 

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Reply #53 on: June 23, 2021, 11:08:54 PM
That's interesting. If you go to Google Maps and check out some of the businesses on the Falklands, you'll find reviews from Argentinians that are less than respectful of their presence. And then you'll see locals commenting on their comments that basically spout "poor loser" and really don't help the situation, lol.

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Reply #54 on: June 24, 2021, 08:02:33 AM
I hadn't heard about Madison getting exiled from BGG, but I have noticed I haven't seen him around commenting, lately, on his game pages. 

He also had some trouble a few months back with some Argentinian trolls kvetching about his honest and historically-supportable stances in Mrs. Thatcher's War, as well.   It was amusing, as a couple of them seemed completely unaware of their own history.

He was posting on ConsimWorld but I don't know if he still is.

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