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Title: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: bayonetbrant on April 20, 2019, 05:53:30 PM
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/how-us-navy-sunk-imperial-japans-top-secret-aircraft-carrier-53352
Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: bob48 on April 20, 2019, 06:27:49 PM
That is very interesting. I'd not heard of that ship before.
Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: besilarius on April 20, 2019, 06:51:24 PM
Admiral Charley Lockwood produced the television show, Silent Service.  He wanted to ensure that the work of his submariners was not forgotten.
Here is the episode on Archerfish and Joe Enright.  The captain may be familiar to most Dragoons.

Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: besilarius on April 20, 2019, 07:09:39 PM
Another carrier sunk by a submarine was Shokako.

http://www.combinedfleet.com/shoksink.htm
Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: Staggerwing on April 20, 2019, 07:31:42 PM
Another carrier sunk by a submarine was Shokako.

http://www.combinedfleet.com/shoksink.htm

Another was the USN Block Island, sunk not by an IJN sub but by a U-boot.
Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: bbmike on April 20, 2019, 07:42:57 PM
Is that DeForest Kelley?  :o
Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: Staggerwing on April 20, 2019, 08:31:15 PM
If so, it would be the only other thing besides Star Trek I've ever seen him in. The first was the gloriously bad mutant-rabbit scifi film 'Night of the Lepus'.
Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: BanzaiCat on April 20, 2019, 08:46:58 PM
Night of the Lepus is all kinds of amazing!

...if you watch the Rifftrax version of course

https://www.rifftrax.com/night-of-the-lepus

More on topic, has anyone ever read Shinano!?
Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: Staggerwing on April 20, 2019, 08:51:54 PM
^ you mean this?

https://www.amazon.com/Shinano-Sinking-Japans-Secret-Supership/dp/0312909675
Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: bayonetbrant on April 20, 2019, 09:06:06 PM
If so, it would be the only other thing besides Star Trek I've ever seen him in. The first was the gloriously bad mutant-rabbit scifi film 'Night of the Lepus'.


He was in an older episode of Wild Wild West, too
Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: Staggerwing on April 20, 2019, 09:31:16 PM
If so, it would be the only other thing besides Star Trek I've ever seen him in. The first was the gloriously bad mutant-rabbit scifi film 'Night of the Lepus'.


He was in an older episode of Wild Wild West, too

Oddly, he bears a passing resemblance to Ross Martin as well...  ???
Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: besilarius on April 21, 2019, 12:04:17 AM
Dee Kelly was in a lot of westerns and a regular on television series. 
I know he was in a Henry Ford western, Warlock, and a couple of Untouchable episodes.  Think he met Leonard Nimoy on that show.
Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: bbmike on April 21, 2019, 09:27:24 AM
I watched Warlock the other day. DeForest played the role of Curley in it. Great movie.
Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: Martok on April 21, 2019, 12:15:48 PM
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/how-us-navy-sunk-imperial-japans-top-secret-aircraft-carrier-53352

Good write-up. 

I first read an article about the Shinano and her sinking when I was 11-12 years old.  The story has always stuck with me, at least in part because of the unusual decision of the High Command to switch from building a battleship to a carrier mid-construction. 

Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: Staggerwing on April 21, 2019, 02:12:38 PM
  The story has always stuck with me, at least in part because of the unusual decision of the High Command to switch from building a battleship to a carrier mid-construction.

I could be misremembering, but I thought I read somewhere that the IJN wasn't actually planning to send the Shinano into combat right away but first use it as a kind of defended aircraft ferry to get land-based planes out to beleaguered Japanese territories that were running critically low on airframes due to attrition.
Title: Re: Sinking Imperial Japan's Top Secret Carrier
Post by: BanzaiCat on April 22, 2019, 10:51:06 AM
^ you mean this?

https://www.amazon.com/Shinano-Sinking-Japans-Secret-Supership/dp/0312909675

Yes, exactly that.