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Title: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Martok on June 13, 2023, 04:17:19 AM
Dang.  Just four months away. 







I confess to being tempted, despite having barely played the first one.  But then, I've always been a fool.  :crazy2: 


Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Undercovergeek on June 13, 2023, 05:15:39 AM
Same boat - I think I have 3 hours in the first but I can see let’s play that last months and months of game time

I have workers and resources but expect this to be much more polished
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: thecommandtent on June 13, 2023, 08:47:57 PM
Enjoyed the first one and looking forward to this. Although my cheap self will probably wait until it goes on sale, in which case I'll be behind on about 40 DLCs  :)
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Martok on June 19, 2023, 07:28:52 PM
Feature Highlight #1 - Road Tools: 


https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/cities-skylines-ii/features/road-tools






As both a gamer and lifelong "road geek", this has me automatically salivating.  :D 


Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: thecommandtent on June 19, 2023, 08:38:51 PM
I like what I'm seeing. Really like that roads will also carry water and electric under them now as I usually aligned my water pipes with roads anyway.
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Martok on July 01, 2023, 02:43:59 AM
Feature #2: Traffic AI


https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/cities-skylines-ii/features/traffic-ai






As with TCT, I'm liking what I'm seeing so far.  This bit towards the beginning of the dev diary made me a little gob-smacked, however: 

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Pathfinding works in a different way in Cities: Skylines II than its predecessor. In Cities: Skylines pathfinding was proximity-based, meaning agents would calculate their destinations or order services by straight line distance without taking the existing road network into account.

Holy crap.  Given that, I'm amazed that traffic in the current game works as well as it does.  :o 


Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: JudgeDredd on July 01, 2023, 12:01:45 PM
Feature #2: Traffic AI


https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/cities-skylines-ii/features/traffic-ai



As with TCT, I'm liking what I'm seeing so far.  This bit towards the beginning of the dev diary made me a little gob-smacked, however: 

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Pathfinding works in a different way in Cities: Skylines II than its predecessor. In Cities: Skylines pathfinding was proximity-based, meaning agents would calculate their destinations or order services by straight line distance without taking the existing road network into account.

Holy crap.  Given that, I'm amazed that traffic in the current game works as well as it does.  :o

It was one of the main reasons I stopped playing the original...nothing you did to ease traffic, aside from start again, helped to ease congestion. There was lots to love about the game, but that particular flaw was very annoying. Build and create to a certain point, then start again  :waiting:
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: bob48 on July 01, 2023, 01:46:03 PM
I still have fond memories of the original Sim City.
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Martok on July 01, 2023, 07:58:30 PM
I played SimCity 4 on GOG, though not anytime recently.  It was a fun game. 

I couldn't get Cities: Skylines to run very well on my previous computer (probably due to it being a POS), and I've never really gotten around to trying it out much on my new one.  CS2, however, I might actually have to grab once it's out. 


I've always enjoyed creating cities and watching them grow.  I used to draw them on paper as a kid (like, *all* the time ::) ), so games like these were kind of a natural extension of that hobby. 

Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Undercovergeek on July 01, 2023, 08:36:11 PM
I was a stick men battlefield drawer and submarines for some reason

Whilst I’m looking forward to CS2 I think I have my city itch scratched by workers republic I think - although it looks much fancier
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Martok on July 03, 2023, 02:30:58 PM
Feature Highlight #3 - Public & Cargo Transportation: 


https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/cities-skylines-ii/features/public-cargo-transportation





Options appear to be about what I expected, though with better UI and QoL improvements for managing them.  Looks like the Transportation Overview and (especially) new Line Tool should useful in managing this a bit easier. 





Whilst I’m looking forward to CS2 I think I have my city itch scratched by workers republic I think - although it looks much fancier

Yeah, that game seems to be your jam.  You've definitely been having a fun time with it. 


Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Martok on July 12, 2023, 08:02:21 PM
Feature Highlight #4 - Zones & Signature Buildings: 


https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/cities-skylines-ii/features/zones-signature-buildings






Nice, meaty dev diary.  I suspect the section on Land Value and Building Levels is going to particularly interest those who really want to get into the nuts & bolts of this game. 


Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Barthheart on July 12, 2023, 08:17:57 PM
Can’t wait!  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: thecommandtent on July 12, 2023, 09:21:43 PM
Can’t wait!  :bigthumb:

+1
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Martok on July 17, 2023, 02:10:55 PM
Feature Highlight #5 - City Services: 


https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/cities-skylines-ii/features/city-services-districts-policies






Curious to see how Districts and Policies will work in the sequel.  Sounds like they should offer an extra degree of customization. 


Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: thecommandtent on July 17, 2023, 09:39:29 PM
Feature Highlight #5 - City Services: 


https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/cities-skylines-ii/features/city-services-districts-policies






Curious to see how Districts and Policies will work in the sequel.  Sounds like they should offer an extra degree of customization.

I like the idea of upgrading city service buildings instead of just putting more as you expand.
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Martok on July 22, 2023, 01:40:20 PM
^  Same.  Hopefully that will reduce micromanagement some as well. 


Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Martok on July 24, 2023, 12:38:10 PM
Feature Highlight #6 - Electricity & Water: 


https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/cities-skylines-ii/features/electricity-water






Sounds like it should be an interesting balancing act, as it should be. 

It was also mentioned in the first dev diary, but I'm glad that laying down roads will automatically come with voltage lines underneath them.  Definitely a nice QoL improvement. 


Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: thecommandtent on July 24, 2023, 08:52:09 PM
Feature Highlight #6 - Electricity & Water: 


https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/cities-skylines-ii/features/electricity-water






Sounds like it should be an interesting balancing act, as it should be. 

It was also mentioned in the first dev diary, but I'm glad that laying down roads will automatically come with voltage lines underneath them.  Definitely a nice QoL improvement.

Interesting to see the power demands spike for weather changes. Hopefully it adds to the experience of running a city and isn't gamey
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Martok on August 01, 2023, 06:16:47 PM
Feature Highlight #7 - Maps & Themes: 


https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/cities-skylines-ii/features/maps-themes





TL;DR:  Larger maps, and more of them.  I'm definitely not gonna complain about that.  :) 





Interesting to see the power demands spike for weather changes. Hopefully it adds to the experience of running a city and isn't gamey

Agreed! 


Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: JudgeDredd on October 25, 2023, 01:20:10 PM
Anyone pick it up? It seems to be getting luke warm reviews on steam at the moment - only 49%
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Undercovergeek on October 25, 2023, 01:44:19 PM
From what I’ve read it runs like a bastard even on nasa machines - there’s an article on rps from the devs saying they almost delayed because it’s not optimised and then thought fk it let’s get the Christmas market money anyway
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Barthheart on October 25, 2023, 02:32:21 PM
Yeah, I'm waiting to see what the optimization produces. My machine is within the rec specs but would probably not be playable at 4k res.
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: JudgeDredd on October 25, 2023, 04:40:48 PM
ffs. Between this and the luke warm Starfield! What's the gaming world coming to.

I've even gone back to Fallout 4 and Cyberpunk for the moment.
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: thecommandtent on October 25, 2023, 08:19:46 PM
Yeah, I'm waiting to see what the optimization produces.

Same but disappointed as I've been looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Cities Skylines II
Post by: Undercovergeek on October 26, 2023, 03:12:33 AM
By all accounts by the time it’s running decent it looks like a mod for skylines 1 ☹️☹️