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Reply #15 on: April 26, 2022, 03:01:37 AM
Yet another, let’s release the framework early and grab some cash situation.

I am sick and tired of playing someone’s WIP. Finish the job to a decent core game and you might get my money.


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Reply #16 on: April 26, 2022, 03:36:14 AM
I'm definitely interested in this one, but I have no desire to grab it while it's still in Early-Access.  I'm content to wait until the full release, however long that takes. 


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Reply #17 on: April 26, 2022, 03:59:26 AM
Review on RPS - not great not terrible - as they would say - a solid 7/10



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Reply #18 on: April 26, 2022, 04:19:39 AM
From Polygon:

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It is also perplexing how the Fremen — an indigenous people who have no canonical interest in space politics — must placate their oppressors using the same language and acquisitive attitudes that have taken hold of their planet. Playing with the Fremen means working within the same colonial design systems as House Atreides and House Harkonnen — grinding to pay Imperial taxes and voting in the Landsraad, even in a limited capacity, just doesn’t make sense. Not only is it the opposite of immersion, but it’s a fundamental misunderstanding of why the Fremen exist.

Eurgh, gross. Another mark against this game.



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Reply #19 on: April 26, 2022, 04:23:02 PM
The devs playing the game: 


https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1467463439




From Polygon:

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It is also perplexing how the Fremen — an indigenous people who have no canonical interest in space politics — must placate their oppressors using the same language and acquisitive attitudes that have taken hold of their planet. Playing with the Fremen means working within the same colonial design systems as House Atreides and House Harkonnen — grinding to pay Imperial taxes and voting in the Landsraad, even in a limited capacity, just doesn’t make sense. Not only is it the opposite of immersion, but it’s a fundamental misunderstanding of why the Fremen exist.

Eurgh, gross. Another mark against this game.

Yeah, that bothers me as well.  Hopefully that's something Shiro changes/improves between now and the game's full release. 



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Reply #20 on: April 26, 2022, 05:08:18 PM
The devs playing the game: 

Yeah I've been watching people play on-and-off all afternoon. It's just Northgard with a Dune skin, and I didn't like Northgard (although I seem to be in the minority). Between that and the lack of respect for the lore, I think any interest I had is pretty much gone.



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Reply #21 on: April 27, 2022, 07:38:34 PM
Well FWIW, feedback on Discord and even in the Steam forums appears to be generally positive thus far.  However, it does seem to depend somewhat on how much you enjoy games like Northgard, as there are a lot of comments that Spice Wars does, in fact, play out similarly (though Dune is apparently at least a degree more complex). 

I've also seen a fair few comments that, whatever its flaws, the game does play out like a 4x, albeit one on a smaller scale.  Even that's more than I was genuinely expecting (though I'm still not planning to pick this up anytime soon). 


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Reply #22 on: April 30, 2022, 04:20:25 AM
Huh.  AngryJoe definitely likes it: 






I could wish he reviewed/previewed more 4x games (I've long known he's a fan), but I realize videos covering them aren't going to bring in the advertising dollars (unfortunately).  And to be fair, he does cover probably a good dozen or so 4x/grand-strategy games in a given year; they just get lost amongst all the other videos he puts out. 



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Reply #23 on: May 12, 2022, 09:49:12 PM
I'm still not getting the game until it's exited Early Access, but this guy's take on it encourages me.  (It also feels like a major "take that" to those who were -- perhaps unrealistically -- expecting a sequel to the older RTT titles from two decades ago. :hehe:





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Reply #24 on: May 13, 2022, 06:11:52 AM
Good to know. I'm also hanging back to see how it develops.

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Reply #25 on: May 14, 2022, 03:34:08 AM
I think my biggest hangup with the game could end up being its scale, in that it's not "grand" or epic enough.  Spice Wars is probably going to appeal more to folks who prefer shorter gaming sessions, and/or want to complete games in just 1-2 sittings.  I totally respect that, but is likely going to reduce its appeal and/or replayability factor for me personally. 



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Reply #26 on: May 14, 2022, 06:00:35 AM
Goods points, Sam.

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Reply #27 on: May 23, 2022, 11:56:39 PM
First major update.  Looks like a decent list. 


https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1605220/view/3226278286753805585



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Reply #28 on: May 25, 2022, 02:27:17 PM
The roadmap: 


https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1605220/view/3302839954737156536




This summer will see multiplayer and a new faction get added, with priority given to MP development.  Further development will see the addition of high-tier units & buildings, along with Heroes (called "Councillors") that can be used as double-agents and/or powerful units on the battlefield. 



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Reply #29 on: June 13, 2022, 05:41:49 AM
I was admittedly hoping for just a little more, but the devs dropped a (very) brief clip/tease of multiplayer in action (footage begins at the 0:14 mark): 






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