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History and Tall Tales / Re: This Day in History
« Last post by besilarius on Today at 10:03:51 AM »1502 aided by Leonardo da Vinci's siege engines, Cesare Borgia took Fossombrone, in the Romagna, amid great slaughter, but elsewhere his treacherous lieutenant Vitellozzo Vitelli seizes Castel Durante, initiating a widespread revolt against the Borgia
1780. HMS Laurel (28), HMS Andromeda (28), Cptn. Henry Brine, swept ashore at Martinique and HMS Deal Castle (24), Cptn. James Hawkins, and HMS Endeavour (14) also foundered in the West Indies.13 Royal Navy ships foundered in the great hurricane over 8 days.
1917 Mutiny in the 69th
Mutiny is uncommon in the history of the U.S. armed forces. Yet there is one unit, among the most decorated of National Guard regiments, that has experienced mutiny, and not once, but twice, New York’s 69th Infantry – the “Fighting 69th.”
In both instances, mutiny was a direct consequence of the regiment’s Irish-American heritage.
The first “mutiny” occurred in 1860. In that year, the Prince of Wales (later King Edward VII), paid a visit to Canada, and was invited to tour the United States as well. As a concession to American sensibilities, the prince traveled using one of his subsidiary titles, Count Renfrew. Since New York City was on the young man’s itinerary, the governor ordered the State Militia to serve as military escort to the Count. Most of the militia dutifully turned out. But the order was too much for Col. Michael Corcoran, Commander of the 69th Regiment. On October 11, 1860, Corcoran refused in writing to participate with his regiment. The governor charged Corcoran with insubordination, placed him under technical arrest, a court martial was threatened, and there were demands that the regiment be disbanded. This embroglio was still brewing when Fort Sumter was fired upon on April 12, 1861, whereupon all was suddenly forgiven, and Corcoran and the 69th both marched off to war to the cheers of those who had so lately been on their case.
The second “mutiny” took place during World War I. Upon mobilization, the 69th, which was designated the 165th Infantry in Federal service, formed part of the 42nd “Rainbow” Division. The regiment arrived in France late in 1917. Since like most American units it went overseas only partially equipped, upon reaching its training area, at La Fauche, the troops were issued additional equipment and new uniforms. Now it chanced that Uncle Sam did not have enough of his standard issue blouse. To remedy the shortfall, the Army had bought a stock of blouses from the British. As soon as the men of the 69th saw the crown bedecked buttons on the new blouses, they refused to wear them. Although a great deal of pressure was brought to bear, everyone took part in the “strike.” Rather than apply judicial remedies, the Army finally relented, and issued the men new buttons, with eagles on them, which they avidly sewed on to their new blouses, while most certainly getting an extra measure of satisfaction in tossing the Brit buttons into the trash.
The famous chaplain of the regiment, Father Duffy, refused the British gear except for the boots. The troops could stamp on them.
FootNote: In addition to its two mutinies, and many other unusual distinctions, the 69th is the only active unit in the National Guard to bear the same designation in Federal service as it did in the state militia. Although redesignated the 165th Infantry during World War I, shortly after World War II it was officially renamed the 69th Infantry, there never having been a regiment so designated in the Army list.
1942. A cruiser-destroyer task force led by Rear Adm. Norman Scott intercepts a similar Japanese Navy unit. In the resulting Battle of Cape Esperance, the Japanese lose the heavy cruiser Furutaka and destroyer Fubuki, with two more destroyers sunk by American air attacks the next day. The destroyer Duncan (DD-485) is the only loss from Scott's Task Force 64. This victory is the U.S. Navy's first of the Guadalcanal Campaign.
1780. HMS Laurel (28), HMS Andromeda (28), Cptn. Henry Brine, swept ashore at Martinique and HMS Deal Castle (24), Cptn. James Hawkins, and HMS Endeavour (14) also foundered in the West Indies.13 Royal Navy ships foundered in the great hurricane over 8 days.
1917 Mutiny in the 69th
Mutiny is uncommon in the history of the U.S. armed forces. Yet there is one unit, among the most decorated of National Guard regiments, that has experienced mutiny, and not once, but twice, New York’s 69th Infantry – the “Fighting 69th.”
In both instances, mutiny was a direct consequence of the regiment’s Irish-American heritage.
The first “mutiny” occurred in 1860. In that year, the Prince of Wales (later King Edward VII), paid a visit to Canada, and was invited to tour the United States as well. As a concession to American sensibilities, the prince traveled using one of his subsidiary titles, Count Renfrew. Since New York City was on the young man’s itinerary, the governor ordered the State Militia to serve as military escort to the Count. Most of the militia dutifully turned out. But the order was too much for Col. Michael Corcoran, Commander of the 69th Regiment. On October 11, 1860, Corcoran refused in writing to participate with his regiment. The governor charged Corcoran with insubordination, placed him under technical arrest, a court martial was threatened, and there were demands that the regiment be disbanded. This embroglio was still brewing when Fort Sumter was fired upon on April 12, 1861, whereupon all was suddenly forgiven, and Corcoran and the 69th both marched off to war to the cheers of those who had so lately been on their case.
The second “mutiny” took place during World War I. Upon mobilization, the 69th, which was designated the 165th Infantry in Federal service, formed part of the 42nd “Rainbow” Division. The regiment arrived in France late in 1917. Since like most American units it went overseas only partially equipped, upon reaching its training area, at La Fauche, the troops were issued additional equipment and new uniforms. Now it chanced that Uncle Sam did not have enough of his standard issue blouse. To remedy the shortfall, the Army had bought a stock of blouses from the British. As soon as the men of the 69th saw the crown bedecked buttons on the new blouses, they refused to wear them. Although a great deal of pressure was brought to bear, everyone took part in the “strike.” Rather than apply judicial remedies, the Army finally relented, and issued the men new buttons, with eagles on them, which they avidly sewed on to their new blouses, while most certainly getting an extra measure of satisfaction in tossing the Brit buttons into the trash.
The famous chaplain of the regiment, Father Duffy, refused the British gear except for the boots. The troops could stamp on them.
FootNote: In addition to its two mutinies, and many other unusual distinctions, the 69th is the only active unit in the National Guard to bear the same designation in Federal service as it did in the state militia. Although redesignated the 165th Infantry during World War I, shortly after World War II it was officially renamed the 69th Infantry, there never having been a regiment so designated in the Army list.
1942. A cruiser-destroyer task force led by Rear Adm. Norman Scott intercepts a similar Japanese Navy unit. In the resulting Battle of Cape Esperance, the Japanese lose the heavy cruiser Furutaka and destroyer Fubuki, with two more destroyers sunk by American air attacks the next day. The destroyer Duncan (DD-485) is the only loss from Scott's Task Force 64. This victory is the U.S. Navy's first of the Guadalcanal Campaign.
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4X Gaming / Re: Age of Wonders 4
« Last post by bob48 on Today at 09:38:45 AM »Did you play it, Gus?
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4X Gaming / Re: Age of Wonders 4
« Last post by Gusington on Today at 09:18:32 AM »No I feel sad, Bawb.
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4X Gaming / Re: Age of Wonders 4
« Last post by bob48 on Today at 03:27:35 AM »And the AoW in Space game really seemed to drift off into the cold interstellar depths of obscurity.
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4X Gaming / Re: Age of Wonders 4
« Last post by Gusington on Yesterday at 07:49:15 PM »^Sorry didn't see your post until now - I think I saw the majority of complaints on Steam.
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4X Gaming / Re: Imperiums: Greek Wars
« Last post by Gusington on Yesterday at 07:47:48 PM »Arctic Blast are you inside my head?
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Sci-fi & Fantasy Warfare / Re: Songs of Conquest
« Last post by Gusington on Yesterday at 07:45:25 PM »^Yeah I get hot and cold on it...some days I like it, others...meh.
But I clearly keep thinking about it so I will have to wait with Martok and his wallet.
It's inevitable, really.
But I clearly keep thinking about it so I will have to wait with Martok and his wallet.
It's inevitable, really.
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History and Tall Tales / Re: This Day in History
« Last post by besilarius on Yesterday at 09:43:04 AM »680 Battle of Kerbala: Mohammed's grandson, the Shia Imam Huseyn Ali is defeated by the Caliph Yazid I ibn Muawiyah.
Imam Husayn ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib (54), Mohammed's grandson, his sons Ali ibn Husayn (12-13) & Abdullah Ali al-Asghar ibn Husayn (6 months), and 70 followers, slaughtered by Caliph Yazid I ibn Muawiyah
1781 HMS Charon (44), Cptn. Thomas Symonds, HMS Guadaloupe (28), HMS Fowey (24), Cptn. Peter Aplin, HMS Vulcan fireship, and some transports, were burnt in the Chesapeake before Yorktown by hot shot from the American batteries. They would otherwise have been captured.
1825 Paulus "Oom Paul" Kruger, Boer leader, President of the South African Republic (1883-1900), d. 1904 -
. . kill as many officers as possible, but, for God’s sake, spare the generals."
-- Reported advice of President Paul Kruger
of the Transvaal Republic, to his Boer Commandos during the South African
Imam Husayn ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib (54), Mohammed's grandson, his sons Ali ibn Husayn (12-13) & Abdullah Ali al-Asghar ibn Husayn (6 months), and 70 followers, slaughtered by Caliph Yazid I ibn Muawiyah
1781 HMS Charon (44), Cptn. Thomas Symonds, HMS Guadaloupe (28), HMS Fowey (24), Cptn. Peter Aplin, HMS Vulcan fireship, and some transports, were burnt in the Chesapeake before Yorktown by hot shot from the American batteries. They would otherwise have been captured.
1825 Paulus "Oom Paul" Kruger, Boer leader, President of the South African Republic (1883-1900), d. 1904 -
. . kill as many officers as possible, but, for God’s sake, spare the generals."
-- Reported advice of President Paul Kruger
of the Transvaal Republic, to his Boer Commandos during the South African
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The Modern World / Re: Commandos is coming back?
« Last post by JudgeDredd on Yesterday at 07:36:05 AM »There's a single mission demo out for this now on Steam
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Age of Gunpowder / Re: Europa Universalis IV
« Last post by Undercovergeek on Yesterday at 06:27:52 AM »[Posting here so as not to further derail the CK3 thread.]
I understand only too well the phenomenon of wanting to pick up a DLC here and there for just 1-2 features. I've run into that issue with Stellaris on a few occasions.
For that matter, there's even some DLC I want to grab for EU4 so that I can try out the Anbennar mod, as it requires a few that I'm currently lacking. (And yes, I know I should try out vanilla EU4 in its own right anyway, but lord it feels overwhelming every time I try and so much as dip my toe in the waters.) I'm just waiting for them to go on sale super-cheap...which will most likely happen once Europa Universalis 5 is finally announced in these next six months.
With regards to HRE - definitely would have held off until I had ALL the lowlands - I’m maybe missing 3 provinces that’s all and it doesn’t affect the Netherlands mission tree
Within the HRE you’re treated like squabbling children and you can fight it out and depending on how much aggression is shown in the war score (taking all of a nation as opposed to a province or 2) the HRE will say give it back if he’s unhappy and the penalty for refusing is a few malus on trade and stability
Outside the HRE it’s a big no no - EU4 does apply some sense and any allies and the emperor will be called to war - in ck3 it’s the whole HRE - everyone comes to war - in my game at the time of writing most neighbours had joined a coalition against my expansion so actually attacking one of them was worse than summoning the HRE but they’re withdrawing now after a certain amount of peace - as I mentioned if the leadership of the HRE eventually falls to a weak one province nation and not the 30k men austria can bring we’re off!
There’s a rolling score now for something called Reform and it ticks up depending on how much autonomy your provinces have - when you reach a trigger level it asks if you would to enact reform in increasing tiers - the first is your monarchy, the second the nobles, clergy, burghers, admin, beaucracy and so on - I’ll post some pics this afternoon
So there wasn’t actually a rebellion that we won or lost but a trigger that was ‘the people call for reform’
Ah, gotcha. Thank you for the detailed explanations!
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