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Wargaming => Age of Gunpowder => Topic started by: mcguire on February 22, 2021, 05:00:07 PM

Title: A controversial opinion?
Post by: mcguire on February 22, 2021, 05:00:07 PM
No, not that Firesign Theatre (http://www.firesigntheatre.com/) is funnier than Monty Python. That's just straight up fact.

 :tickedoff:

No, I think there is something wrong with miniatures games that do not feature changes of formation. Speaking for myself and coming from a background of hex-n-counter games as well as someone who likes to look at those goofy museum dioramas, mini games that don't change formation just don't do it for me. Think about it: do you want to look at six horses (and a flag) on a rectangular base bumping up against ten infantry men (and a flag) on another rectangular base, or do you want to look at reiters doing a caracole?

But, but, but, ..., you say... (Stop doing the motorboat impression!) ...in a big battle, the commander isn't interested in the formations taken by minuscule units. In the first place, ten men and a flag is not an infantry battalion. Just use kriegspiel blocks for the units. (Or glockenspiel blocks, if by spell check has its way.) On a map. It'll look better and you can wear that period uniform you bought and be part of the experience.

Whew. I feel better.
Title: Re: A controversial opinion?
Post by: bob48 on February 22, 2021, 05:11:10 PM
Would it be a caracole, or a Cantabrian circle? Or maybe that's from an earlier period.

I agree with you, although I assume you mean a method (markers?) of identifying exactly what formation the unit is in and it may not mean by physically altering the appearance of the unit on the table? This will obviously require that the game rules also detail when and how the formation change takes place within the game sequence, and the effect this has on the unit both offensively and defensively.

Or maybe I'm just over-thinking it :-)
Title: Re: A controversial opinion?
Post by: bbmike on February 22, 2021, 05:25:22 PM
Wait. Are you saying there's something funnier than Monty Python?  ???
Title: Re: A controversial opinion?
Post by: bob48 on February 22, 2021, 05:28:23 PM
Inconceivable!

Title: Re: A controversial opinion?
Post by: mcguire on February 22, 2021, 06:32:45 PM
Wait. Are you saying there's something funnier than Monty Python?  ???

I am willing to defend that statement.



(Although that's from the mid-80s, so it's not their classic period like Nick Danger or "How Can You Be in Two Places at Once When You're Not Anywhere at All".)

Title: Re: A controversial opinion?
Post by: mcguire on February 22, 2021, 06:35:57 PM
Would it be a caracole, or a Cantabrian circle? Or maybe that's from an earlier period.

I agree with you, although I assume you mean a method (markers?) of identifying exactly what formation the unit is in and it may not mean by physically altering the appearance of the unit on the table? This will obviously require that the game rules also detail when and how the formation change takes place within the game sequence, and the effect this has on the unit both offensively and defensively.

Or maybe I'm just over-thinking it :-)

Same thing, I think, but the caracole involves pistoles.

Anyway, I mean having multiple bases so you can physically move the parts of the unit to be in a different formation. And yes, game rules and offensiveness.

Check out last weekend's Saturday Night Fight for an example: Lasalle 2.