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Title: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: mirth on December 25, 2018, 10:20:35 PM
Had no idea this was still on the books

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/25/us/navy-bread-water-punishment-penalty.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/25/us/navy-bread-water-punishment-penalty.html)
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: Barthheart on December 26, 2018, 07:34:34 AM
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: mirth on December 26, 2018, 08:17:04 AM
^ha!
Title: Another naval tradition goes
Post by: besilarius on December 26, 2018, 09:17:49 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/25/us/navy-bread-water-punishment-penalty.html

Never saw it used, but the crew joked about it.
Title: Another naval tradition goes
Post by: besilarius on December 26, 2018, 09:24:36 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/25/us/navy-bread-water-punishment-penalty.html
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: bbmike on December 26, 2018, 09:27:39 AM
The wife still uses it. Maybe she'll end the practice now.  :whistle:
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: mirth on December 26, 2018, 11:56:10 AM
Merged the two individual threads on this topic.
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: besilarius on December 26, 2018, 03:51:37 PM

Good idea.  Looks like I posted the same thing twice.  Erase if you desire.
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: mirth on December 26, 2018, 06:31:22 PM
No worries.
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: bbmike on December 26, 2018, 06:58:09 PM
I'm worried.
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: mirth on December 26, 2018, 07:57:53 PM
I'm worried.

Have a drink.
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: bbmike on December 26, 2018, 08:34:25 PM
Oooooh, medicine!  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 30, 2018, 04:30:24 PM
What about a good keelhaulin'?
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: bbmike on December 30, 2018, 05:20:02 PM
Not as effective as whiskey.
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: besilarius on December 31, 2018, 09:30:15 AM
Was thinking about old regs that never get used, and older punishments.
There was a non-judicial punishment for officers called "in hack".  If the officer did something to piss off the captain, he would be restricted to his cabin.  Couldn't leave until released, and he had to eat his meals in solitary.  The mess stewards would bring the food on a tray, and enjoyed the whole affair.
Bud Gore was an Annapolis graduate, class of 39, who wrote an autobiiography.
He was the first Signal officer on the carrier Wasp.  She was a compromise that had to fit into the limited tonnage left over after the Yorktown class.  A lot was left out, like underwater protection, and duplication of fire fighting systems.  All of which may have contributed to her sinking off Guadalcanal.  (Although taking three torpedoes was devastating.)
When he joined the ship, he discovered that the yard built her with no Signal Bridge.  They had the bunting and halyards, but no place to set them up.
This was pretty serious because at that time, the navy still used visual hoists for most formation ordering.  Partly tradition, and partly because an enemy could hear the course changed on the open radio circuit.
In a meeting with the yard's management, he got carried away and lit into them.  His captain felt this was inappropriate and put him in hack for a week.
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 31, 2018, 11:02:26 AM
don't leave us hanging - what happened to 'replace' the signal bridge?
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: mirth on December 31, 2018, 11:32:29 AM
don't leave us hanging - what happened to 'replace' the signal bridge?

ikr?
Title: Re: USN Ends Bread & Water Punishment
Post by: besilarius on January 01, 2019, 10:19:14 AM
The yard shortchanged a lot of other things, so the Wasp stayed there for the corrections.  During this, they put in a really tight sginaling station.  The Signalmen joked that they were one step away from heaven.

My guess would be that Wasp ended up a couple hundred tons over the official size.