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Reply #900 on: December 04, 2019, 12:25:00 PM
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Prince of Wales alongside Victory Jetty, Portsmouth. HMS Victory, M33 and the Mary Rose museum are also visible



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Reply #901 on: December 04, 2019, 01:13:03 PM
All them blokes on deck with binoculars looking for F-35's

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Reply #902 on: December 04, 2019, 02:19:57 PM
That big ass aircraft carrier and they still have to have a ski jump.  ;D

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Reply #903 on: December 04, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
That's just so the Brits can tell which end NOT to land on.  :hehe:   Sorry Mates, too easy to pass on.

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Reply #904 on: December 04, 2019, 03:21:32 PM
That big ass aircraft carrier and they still have to have a ski jump.  ;D

They could have fit them with catapults, but they deemed the cost to install/operate/maintain them to be prohibitive.

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Reply #905 on: December 04, 2019, 03:23:10 PM
Interesting, I did not know that.

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Reply #906 on: December 04, 2019, 03:26:53 PM
The ski jump is much less expensive, but it limits operational capability. IIRC, there was quite a bit of discussion about which approach to take. In the end, it came down to cost savings. The RN is going to have a difficult enough time funding the carriers as it is.

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Reply #907 on: December 04, 2019, 03:28:34 PM
If the F-35 is a VTOL I guess it's not all that important either way.

That is if the poor saps allies of ours are using that aircraft.

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Reply #908 on: December 04, 2019, 03:34:31 PM
That big ass aircraft carrier and they still have to have a ski jump.  ;D

They could have fit them with catapults, but they deemed the cost to install/operate/maintain them to be prohibitive.

Given how the F-35 has escalated in price, I wonder if that is still the case.

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Reply #909 on: December 04, 2019, 03:35:39 PM
If the F-35 is a VTOL I guess it's not all that important either way.


Yes and no. The V/STOL version has reduced payload, possibly reduced range too. There are trade-offs for the short takeoff ability and there's a lot of extra weight associated with the vertical-lift system.

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Reply #910 on: December 04, 2019, 03:47:04 PM
(a) get rid of the ski ramp and install the catapult system - what's a few shillings more to our UK brethren in taxes?  :D

(b) bring back the Tomcat

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Reply #911 on: December 04, 2019, 04:13:10 PM
Bring back the Ark Royal and the Swordfish..........................

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Reply #912 on: December 04, 2019, 04:30:46 PM
They could have fit them with catapults, but they deemed the cost to install/operate/maintain them to be prohibitive.


Steam, or electromagnetic?  I hear there's a design expert with some very specific thoughts on it...  :doh:

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Reply #913 on: December 04, 2019, 04:53:54 PM
They could have fit them with catapults, but they deemed the cost to install/operate/maintain them to be prohibitive.


Steam, or electromagnetic?  I hear there's a design expert with some very specific thoughts on it...  :doh:

I seem to remember reading that they considered steam since the electromagnetic system had not been sufficiently developed at that time

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Reply #914 on: December 05, 2019, 06:58:25 PM
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