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Title: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on August 19, 2019, 08:11:29 PM

Finally, after what seems like forever, someone is making a Civilization-like game! :party:
The someone in this case is Amplitude:

HUMANKIND (https://store.steampowered.com/app/1124300/HUMANKIND/)

I'm really looking forward to this one. :bigthumb:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: mirth on August 19, 2019, 08:44:01 PM

Yay?

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on August 20, 2019, 06:25:09 AM

Yeah, should be cool. Amplitude makes very good games. :bigthumb:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on August 20, 2019, 06:46:10 AM

Quote from: mirth on August 19, 2019, 08:44:01 PM

Yay?

I'll try to put it in perspective for you. Let's say that there was a boardgame designer called Cid Grier. Cid Grier designed a boardgame at the strategic level covering the entirety of WWII 28 years ago called Mobilization. You love Mobilization because you love WWII boargames, especially at the strategic level. Now, for whatever reason, Mobilization was the only strategic level boardgame covering the entirety of WWII in the entire world. For 28 years. Then, one day, a company called Grampitude says, "we're gonna make a strategic level boardgame covering the entirety of WWII". After 28 years, finally, someone else is going to offer a new take on a boardgame covering the entirety of WWII at the strategic level.

So, yeah. Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on August 20, 2019, 06:47:01 AM

Quote from: Barthheart on August 20, 2019, 06:25:09 AM

Yeah, should be cool. Amplitude makes very good games. :bigthumb:

Agreed. One of the reasons why I can't wait for this to come out.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on August 20, 2019, 10:44:37 PM

I'm cautiously optimistic.

For some reason, I've not been able to get into Amplitude's games thus far. I bounced hard off off both Endless Space titles (despite really wanting to like them), and Endless Legend just never interested me in the first place.

Humankind, though, I admit has me somewhat excited. I've been waiting over a decade for a decent AAA historical 4x title, and I think this could be it. It's about time someone gave Firaxis some genuine -- and desperately-needed -- competition.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on August 21, 2019, 06:22:05 AM

I've also struggled to get into Endless Space (1 & 2) but Endless Legend is a great game. It took a couple of tries to get into it but once figured it out it was worth it. I hope this game builds on EL more than ES.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 22, 2019, 02:21:18 PM

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Begin as Ancient Egypt, then evolve into the Romans, the Khmers, or perhaps the Vikings.

This part is intriguing. One thing about the Civ games (excuse me, Mobilization) that bothers me a bit is how Civs are named the same thing for their ENTIRE existence. Such as, the Americans - you're able to start the American Civ in 4000BC and...well, you're Americans through the ages. If this is hinting that you can 'evolve' or change your Civ into some other thing, that might make things more interesting. (Not sure if I'm making sense, but when do I ever...)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Arctic Blast on August 23, 2019, 05:25:38 PM

Very happy to see somebody else at least offer up an alternative!

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on July 31, 2020, 10:27:15 AM

Yeah baby! :D

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on July 31, 2020, 01:28:19 PM

Wait, what?!? How is that possible? More to the point, how can I do that????

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on July 31, 2020, 02:31:22 PM

Quote from: bbmike on July 31, 2020, 01:28:19 PM

Wait, what?!? How is that possible? More to the point, how can I do that????

>:D

Go to Amplitude and apply for the Humankind OpenDev program. Still time to get in on the next round of scenarios to test.

This first one is a 45 minute special made scenario to get player feedback on certain aspects of the game. And it's NOT behind a NDA. So when I get a chance I can post some pics and tell about what's going on.
But it's time limited too, only available to play from Last night to Monday sometime.
Good thing my 2 week vacation starts now!

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on July 31, 2020, 03:41:46 PM

Done!

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on August 06, 2020, 03:51:19 PM

2nd scenario dropped today, good until Monday.

Did ya get yer notice?

>:D

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on August 06, 2020, 04:11:05 PM

No. :(

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on August 13, 2020, 10:50:23 AM

I get an email saying that Scenario 3 is now available and think maybe I've been selected to try it! Nope. :tickedoff:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on October 21, 2020, 03:57:35 PM

:D Pre-purchase open!

https://humankind.game/

$68 CAD. Available April 2021.

On Steam!

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on October 21, 2020, 04:05:57 PM

Also new free scenario to play on Stadia (whatever that is?).

https://stadia.google.com/games/humankind

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 21, 2020, 09:02:20 PM

Good grief, $50.99 USD?? And as the pre-order price (regular is $59.99 USD)??! :o

Sega must be feeling awfully big for its britches on this one. It'll be interesting to see how well the game does at release, and whether it can truly compete with the Civ franchise or not.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on October 22, 2020, 12:15:21 AM

Go play the free scenario. Seriously. It's freaking awesome, even though I haven't a clue what I'm doing. So many choices.... :o

Just finished playing... waaaay past my bed time. The scenario is only 100 turns long but there's just so much to choose to do it takes a long time to play. No more hitting the end turn button just to get to the next turn.

Very Civ like but nothing like Civ.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Steelie on October 22, 2020, 08:34:45 AM

^That's damn encouraging, Barth.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bob48 on October 22, 2020, 09:10:13 AM

Another 'way-too-expensive-at-launch' game I won't to buying :-(

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on October 22, 2020, 09:32:11 AM

Too tempting for me to resist. I've been wishing someone would compete with the Civilization franchise for years.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 22, 2020, 09:41:24 AM

Appreciate your impressions, Vance. I'll look at checking it out once I've gotten some shuteye here. :)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 22, 2020, 10:04:17 AM

OK, so which one of y'all wants to pen the comparative article that considers Civ 6 vs The Old World vs Humankind vs whatever else is out there ?

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on October 22, 2020, 11:07:53 AM

Quote from: bayonetbrant on October 22, 2020, 10:04:17 AM

OK, so which one of y'all wants to pen the comparative article that considers Civ 6 vs The Old World vs Humankind vs whatever else is out there ?

Might be hard to do until Old World and Humankind are fully released. But they are different enough from each other that it would make a good article.
And no, that is not me volunteering. At least not until I retire.... ;)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 22, 2020, 11:15:34 AM

so, you're volunteering to read it, huh? ;D

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on October 22, 2020, 11:16:43 AM

Quote from: bayonetbrant on October 22, 2020, 11:15:34 AM

so, you're volunteering to read it, huh? ;D

:bigthumb:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Steelie on October 22, 2020, 01:50:33 PM

Quote from: bob48 on October 22, 2020, 09:10:13 AM

Another 'way-too-expensive-at-launch' game I won't to buying :-(

I'm with you there, Bawb. I might buy one or two games a year at full price, but there are too many sales waiting for the patient gamer :bigthumb:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 22, 2020, 09:29:13 PM

Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2020, 11:07:53 AM

Quote from: bayonetbrant on October 22, 2020, 10:04:17 AM
OK, so which one of y'all wants to pen the comparative article that considers Civ 6 vs The Old World vs Humankind vs whatever else is out there ?

Might be hard to do until Old World and Humankind are fully released. But they are different enough from each other that it would make a good article.
And no, that is not me volunteering. At least not until I retire.... ;)

I can wait. At least Old World should be available on Steam by that point. :P

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on October 22, 2020, 10:01:34 PM

Quote from: Martok on October 22, 2020, 09:29:13 PM

Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2020, 11:07:53 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on October 22, 2020, 10:04:17 AM
OK, so which one of y'all wants to pen the comparative article that considers Civ 6 vs The Old World vs Humankind vs whatever else is out there ?

Might be hard to do until Old World and Humankind are fully released. But they are different enough from each other that it would make a good article.
And no, that is not me volunteering. At least not until I retire.... ;)

I can wait. At least Old World should be available on Steam by that point. :P

Hopefully not that long.... aiming at July 2021 right now. :)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on October 22, 2020, 10:02:12 PM

Not me. There's only a few games that I would insta-buy. This is one.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on October 22, 2020, 10:06:12 PM

Quote from: bbmike on October 22, 2020, 10:02:12 PM

Not me. There's only a few games that I would insta-buy. This is one.

:bigthumb:
Ditto.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 22, 2020, 11:33:16 PM

Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2020, 10:01:34 PM

Quote from: Martok on October 22, 2020, 09:29:13 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2020, 11:07:53 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on October 22, 2020, 10:04:17 AM
OK, so which one of y'all wants to pen the comparative article that considers Civ 6 vs The Old World vs Humankind vs whatever else is out there ?

Might be hard to do until Old World and Humankind are fully released. But they are different enough from each other that it would make a good article.
And no, that is not me volunteering. At least not until I retire.... ;)

I can wait. At least Old World should be available on Steam by that point. :P

Hopefully not that long.... aiming at July 2021 right now. :)

Well I believe Old World's 1-year exclusivity on Epic will be done by then, so my point still stands. ;D

Also: Fingers crossed for your retirement!

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Undercovergeek on October 23, 2020, 12:35:55 AM

Keeping a close on it - then I saw blood bowl 2 for 3 pounds!!

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bob48 on October 23, 2020, 06:48:57 AM

I should really look at getting BB2 as well.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 24, 2020, 05:51:21 AM

Explorminate takes a look at the OpenDev demo available on Stadia:

While it's still early days, Humankind appears to be deeper than Amplitude's previous games. Setting aside any jokes regarding low bars and the clearing thereof, I'll admit I've gone from having mentally written this one off, to putting it back on my "maybe" list. :fingerscrossed:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 24, 2020, 07:32:28 AM

I thought Explorminate was shutting down....?

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on October 24, 2020, 08:08:13 AM

Yeah, my hopes were all raised it was finally gone!

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 24, 2020, 08:32:11 AM

Quote from: bayonetbrant on October 24, 2020, 07:32:28 AM

I thought Explorminate was shutting down....?

Yes/no/sort of.

Long story short, the site has pivoted to now just doing a weekly podcast discussing various 4x games, genre-related topics, and/or conducting the occasional interview. No more articles, reviews, etc. The Steam forums remain open and active, though not nearly as much as before. (Our 4x forums here are now seeing close to the same level of activity, for example.)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 25, 2020, 12:42:17 AM

2nd video is up.

Looks like a few of the options in the diplomacy screen could be improved for clarity's sake, but still looking pretty good overall.

One thing I noticed in the previous video is that recruiting military units costs you population, a feature that I see in very few other games (Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes is one of the only ones I'm aware of that also does this). Hopefully it helps act as a check/balance against civilizations becoming too military aggressive.

I also appreciate the little touches, like zooming in and seeing people walking around your cities. It definitely helps make the world come alive, and adds immersion.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on October 25, 2020, 08:15:26 AM

You know what really sucks? I pre-ordered this on Steam and STILL I get no access to the demo scenarios?!? >:(

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 25, 2020, 09:07:21 AM

...Which indirectly highlights yet another reason (not that I need more at this point :P ) why i don't pre-order games. It just ain't worth it anymore -- if it ever was.

But hey, at least the Stadia demo is available for a few more days. :D

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on October 25, 2020, 01:24:09 PM

Quote from: bbmike on October 25, 2020, 08:15:26 AM

You know what really sucks? I pre-ordered this on Steam and STILL I get no access to the demo scenarios?!? >:(

The Open Dev scenarios have been closed down for a while now. On one can play them.

The demo scenario, different thing all together, is only available on Stadia, and only for a week so get playing fast!

There is nothing on Steam at all.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on October 25, 2020, 01:35:56 PM

What the Sam Hill is Stadia?

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 25, 2020, 02:01:40 PM

It's Google's shared gaming platform

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Tolstoi on October 25, 2020, 02:11:55 PM

Quote from: bbmike on October 25, 2020, 01:35:56 PM

What the Sam Hill is Stadia?

Stadia is Google's attempt to enter the cloud computer gaming market. They announced it during the Game Developers Con in 2019, I think. Here are some articles:

Here's an article from March of 2019 with the annoucement: Google jumps into gaming with Google Stadia streaming service, coming “in 2019” (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/03/google-jumps-into-gaming-with-google-stadia-streaming-service/)

Here's something a bit more current: Google Stadia’s free demos could prove the value of game streaming) (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/10/google-stadias-free-demos-could-prove-the-value-of-game-streaming/)

Here's an updated review from IGN: Google Stadia Review (2020 Update) (https://www.ign.com/articles/google-stadia-review)

Here's an interesting article about cloud gaming in general: Cloud gaming’s history of false starts and promising reboots (https://www.polygon.com/features/2020/10/15/21499273/cloud-gaming-history-onlive-stadia-google)

Got a wee bit carried away there with linking to info. :) Hope that helped.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on October 25, 2020, 05:50:18 PM

Sigh. So ANOTHER service to sign up for.
Thanks for the links, Tolstoi. :bigthumb:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on October 26, 2020, 12:37:15 PM

Well? Did ya play it yet?? :D

Oh, and by the way, I posted a direct link to Stadia in my original post about the scenario.... :P

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on October 26, 2020, 12:44:53 PM

No. I'm just gonna keep waiting for Steam to release something or the game.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 26, 2020, 02:01:09 PM

I also declined to play the demo (with genuine regret) after Stadia demanded I use Chrome, or nothing. So I chose nothing. Google can suck it. >:(

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on October 26, 2020, 02:03:25 PM

Quote from: Martok on October 26, 2020, 02:01:09 PM

I also declined to play the demo (with genuine regret) after Stadia demanded I use Chrome, or nothing. So I chose nothing. Google can suck it. >:(

Weird... I played using MS Edge. ???
And just used my gaming email as a logon. It was pretty painless actually. Played the scenario twice so far. :D

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on October 26, 2020, 02:11:06 PM

Did it automatically sign you up for the recurring $/month after free trial ends? I'm guessing it did.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on October 26, 2020, 02:18:47 PM

Quote from: bbmike on October 26, 2020, 02:11:06 PM

Did it automatically sign you up for the recurring $/month after free trial ends? I'm guessing it did.

No it did not. I gave them no payment info. Did not sign up for a free trial.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on October 26, 2020, 02:38:38 PM

Hmm.... I may have to try it then.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on October 26, 2020, 07:53:09 PM

I tried it. My internet connection is around 100 Mbps but the game looks like crap. I guess I will just wait until release. :(

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on October 26, 2020, 08:55:26 PM

Yeah, I’m not a fan of their system and won’t be subscribing...

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 27, 2020, 05:17:41 AM

Given you're (apparently) the only one of us who's managed to actually play the demo, Vance, what are your impressions thus far? (I can only glean so much from watching videos...)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on October 27, 2020, 06:45:05 AM

I enjoyed it very much. Seems deeper than Civ, but maybe that’s just because it’s different.
I very much like the combat system. Armies can have many units/types in them as they move around the map, but when combat happens it becomes 1 unit per hex style combat. Terrain height gives advantage in defence and extra range for ranged units.
Diplomacy so far seems more interesting and choices seem to change a bit as eras pass.
Cities and territory control is very different. The choice between few cities covering large areas or lots of smaller cities is an interesting dynamic that the demo only hints at.
Game is great to look at.
Overall the game is a fresh take on Civ style game play.
April is a long ways away....

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on October 27, 2020, 08:02:37 AM

This is easily my most anticipated (PC) game. That is all.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 27, 2020, 11:27:41 AM

Appreciate your thoughts, Barthheart.

There's definitely some nice-looking systems in this game. I'm especially intrigued by the notion of choosing between fewer, larger cities, and many, smaller ones. It makes me wonder if "playing tall" might actually be a viable strategy in Humankind. (For now, I remain skeptical, but won't rule out the thought entirely.)

Quote from: bbmike on October 27, 2020, 08:02:37 AM

This is easily my most anticipated (PC) game. That is all.

I'm jealous. The top of my personal list is Distant Worlds 2, which doesn't even have a release date yet. :(

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on October 27, 2020, 01:37:54 PM

Yeah, going "tall" in Humankind is different than Civ even.

In Humankind each city occupies/controls an entire territory. You can then build outposts in other territories to access the resources before building cities there. This is nice.
But, these outposts can then be either absorbed into an adjoining city territory, making the city territory larger, or be converted into a city itself.
The larger the territory a city occupies the more spaces/hexes it can develop for resources.

So conceivably, you could build a very large single City-State by just joining all outposts to your capitol. Or build a nation with lots of cities.

Also, units, scouts and military, use up a citizen points from the city they are built in. So you can't build too many with out depleting the abilities of your city. So large cities can grow pops faster an therefore could make more units, but they can only do one thing at a time - develop plots OR build units OR develop the city.

The demo was limited to 100 turns and/or 2 Eras, so it was hard to tell which works better or even if there is a "best" way to play. Probably somewhere in the middle, large central city with smaller outliers.

I can see a very cool balancing act developing.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: thecommandtent on October 27, 2020, 08:38:25 PM

This looks so interesting, I've really got to figure out getting me a gaming rig. This laptop won't cut it.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 28, 2020, 11:05:13 AM

I'm going to need a new PC as well. Not just to run this game, but quite a few others too.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bob48 on October 28, 2020, 02:34:12 PM

Sadly, I could say the same about mine, but Mrs B frequently reminds me that her PC is in the queue for replacement first.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on November 18, 2020, 12:00:03 AM

Explorminate has put out one more video before the Stadio demo becomes unavailable. Still looking pretty good.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bob48 on November 18, 2020, 06:12:18 AM

How does it compare to the CIV games?

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on November 18, 2020, 06:50:59 AM

Same basic premise. Take a prehistoric tribe, explore the world, learn technology, build cities to claim space, and fight to hold it or take more.
Human kind uses a lot of the same idea that Endless Legends uses for city construction/territory control and combat mechanisms.
They have a different take on evolving your culture through time in that you are not just a single culture for all time. You can blend other cultures into your to become something new.

Really looking forward to it.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on November 18, 2020, 03:17:09 PM

When you played the demo, Vance, did you get any sense of how far along (or not) the AI was? I realize the game is still in beta, it's just that Amplitude is a bit notorious among some crowds for having poor AI in their products (Endless Legend in particular gets a lot of flack for this).

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on November 18, 2020, 05:25:43 PM

The demo was pretty limited but the AI does know how to fight properly. Using heights and combined arms well.
The AI Civs seem to be expanding and developing well, but again being so limited a scenario one didn’t get to interact with them too much.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on November 18, 2020, 06:52:46 PM

Fair enough. Still, it sounds hopeful. I would also like to think that given this is Amplitude's first "big" game (in their own words), that they'll devote more time & resources to making sure the AI is a decent opponent.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on December 11, 2020, 07:56:57 AM

:D

Watch our epic new trailer! Then pre-purchase on Steam and get access to a new OpenDev gameplay scenario where you’ll be playing from the Neolithic to the Early Modern era.

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/blogs/748

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on December 11, 2020, 08:23:10 PM

Well if you hadn't pre-purchased it already, I presume you have now. ;)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on December 11, 2020, 08:24:02 PM

I pre-purchased a while back. Still haven't tried any demos yet.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on December 16, 2020, 03:19:48 AM

Explorminate takes a look at the "Lucy" OpenDev.

I have to admit that while I'm still somewhat skeptical (mostly due to Amplitude being the developer), Humankind is looking better and better every time I see it.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on December 16, 2020, 08:11:21 AM

I tried to take a look at it. It took half a day just to get my accounts linked and when they did all I get is it crashing while loading. I get to watch the weird guy video every time, mind you, but then...loading...crash...

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on December 16, 2020, 07:11:13 PM

Was this through Stadia again?

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on December 16, 2020, 08:03:36 PM

Nope you need to have pre-purchased and have a Steam account. It runs through Steam.
I can get it running but lots of bugs.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on December 16, 2020, 08:05:26 PM

No luck for me. I validated local files and even reinstalled. It still crashes when I hit 'Start'. :(

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on December 17, 2020, 04:26:25 AM

Well that's a bummer.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on December 21, 2020, 01:32:42 AM

The Spiffing Brit has fun exploiting some of the various cultures' mechanics. I'm not sure how informative the video is, but it's pretty entertaining to watch!

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on March 25, 2021, 03:34:02 PM

The game's release has been pushed back to August 17.

https://www.pcgamer.com/humankind-is-delayed-will-now-release-in-august/

Some folks will undoubtedly be bummed by the news, but I think it's a good move on Amplitude's part. If you're truly intent on challenging the Civ series, you don't want to release an unbalanced & unpolished mess.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Anguille on March 25, 2021, 05:25:28 PM

Got plenty of time and plenty of games till then.... :whistle:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on March 25, 2021, 06:00:56 PM

Yeah, I don't mind. I hope they get it right before they release it.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on April 22, 2021, 12:36:12 PM

New Humankind OpenDev released today. Victor Hugo. :rockon:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on April 22, 2021, 12:42:44 PM

Zzzzzz. Wake me when it releases. (https://www.aarcentral.com/emoti/yawn.gif)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bayonetbrant on June 02, 2021, 08:14:59 AM

https://www.pcgamer.com/humankind-gets-rid-of-a-lot-of-the-things-that-annoy-me-about-civilization/

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on June 02, 2021, 08:21:38 AM

Hard to believe it will be a Civilization killer based on the 4 minutes I spent with the preview version. That said, I am hopeful they have it figured out now.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Steelie on June 02, 2021, 09:22:52 AM

Yeah, after that pcgamer review Humankind spent about 5 minutes in my purchase cart before I put it back on the shelf. Looks promising but I want to make sure I'm not buying a broken game first. And yes, I admire my self-restraint 8)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bayonetbrant on June 02, 2021, 09:58:21 AM

Quote from: Steelgrave on June 02, 2021, 09:22:52 AM

self-restraint

you're gonna need to offer some sort of definition or reference point for this term

I'm not sure anyone around here knows what it is :dunno:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Steelie on June 02, 2021, 09:59:06 AM

Just forget I mentioned it....no one would believe me anyway 8)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on June 03, 2021, 03:06:30 AM

Another preview article:

https://www.vg247.com/2021/06/02/humankind-hands-on-preview-strategy-4x/

I go back & forth on this game so much. I see a lot of things I like, some things not so much, and other things I'm just not sure what to make of. Ultimately, though, I know the fact that Humankind is being developed by Amplitude will cause me wait a long time before I even think about buying this, no matter how much it might appeal to me. :-\

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on June 03, 2021, 07:52:51 AM

What I’ve played of it so far I think it’s a good game... not great yet but a good solid game.
It’s very different from Civ and so has taken me some getting used to it.
The mixing of cultures is so different, and there are so many combinations, that just that aspect is, for me, the hardest aspect to get a grip on.
Very much looking forward to the full release and I know Amplitude will support the game for a long time.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on June 13, 2021, 06:59:49 PM

200 turn closed beta running now if you buy in. Runs until June 21!
:D

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on June 13, 2021, 11:25:01 PM

I presume you've already picked it up? ;)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on June 14, 2021, 07:11:12 AM

Quote from: Martok on June 13, 2021, 11:25:01 PM

I presume you've already picked it up? ;)

Pre-ordered it as soon as it was available. :)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Anguille on June 14, 2021, 08:17:22 AM

What are exactly the advantages of preordering.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bayonetbrant on June 14, 2021, 08:37:46 AM

Quote from: Anguille on June 14, 2021, 08:17:22 AM

What are exactly the advantages of preordering.

lording his superiority over the rest of us :cowboy:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on June 14, 2021, 08:47:37 AM

Quote from: Anguille on June 14, 2021, 08:17:22 AM

What are exactly the advantages of preordering.

Not much other than getting to play all the pre-lease stuff.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on June 14, 2021, 08:07:24 PM

If you are able to play the pre-release stuff. :(

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on June 24, 2021, 06:41:41 PM

The Spiffing Brit has a smashing time playing as himself in the open-dev beta... ;D

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bayonetbrant on July 01, 2021, 11:05:47 AM

https://www.pcgamesn.com/humankind/all-cultures

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on July 01, 2021, 09:58:33 PM

Nice work by the Redditor who compiled and organized them. Here's the direct link for anyone interested:

https://www.reddit.com/r/HumankindTheGame/comments/mr636b/humankind_cultures_30/

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on August 09, 2021, 08:58:33 PM

Explorminate gets a first look at the map creator/editor:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Gusington on August 09, 2021, 09:37:04 PM

Does anyone know if you can customize the eras you play through? If I want the medieval era to be my ultimate era, can I do that?

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on August 10, 2021, 08:05:56 AM

I forgot that this is supposed to release very, very soon. For some reason I feel very apprehensive about that.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on August 10, 2021, 09:39:02 AM

Release is Monday! :party:

I’ll be at a cottage for week starting Monday… 8) :face:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on August 10, 2021, 03:04:25 PM

Rob has started a LP of the release version:

Quote from: Gusington on August 09, 2021, 09:37:04 PM

Does anyone know if you can customize the eras you play through? If I want the medieval era to be my ultimate era, can I do that?

I've not gotten that impression, no. But then, I've not been following the game as closely as some of the folks here, so take my words with a grain of salt.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on August 10, 2021, 03:26:04 PM

Not gonna watch that… I want to discover things on my own…. most of the fun of these types of games.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on August 10, 2021, 04:24:25 PM

^That. And...Rob.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Gusington on August 10, 2021, 09:03:42 PM

You make me sad, Martok.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on August 17, 2021, 07:13:21 PM

Humankind is out today! Anyone playing it yet?

Reviews been pretty solid so far: 75% average on Steam, 80% on Metacritic.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on August 17, 2021, 07:46:58 PM

It installs and actually runs on my PC now so that's a plus. I haven't spent much time with because when it comes to knowing what I'm actually doing I'm as lost as a meeple in a wargame.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on August 17, 2021, 11:21:09 PM

Fair enough. (Although honestly, that would be different from first playing any other 4x title how...? :P )

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on August 18, 2021, 07:51:37 AM

;D Good point. 8)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 18, 2021, 10:51:24 AM

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/humankind-pc-review

https://www.pcgamer.com/humankind-gets-rid-of-a-lot-of-the-things-that-annoy-me-about-civilization/

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on August 18, 2021, 11:09:03 AM

Explorminate's review gives Humankind quite a bit of love as well:

https://explorminate.co/humankind-the-review/

It's perhaps worth noting that the review *isn't* written by Rob, who's an admitted Amplitude fanboy. He does add his own thoughts at the end, but it appears Steve honestly enjoys the game as well.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Steelie on August 18, 2021, 05:06:19 PM

PC Gamer has a couple of good starting guides:

https://www.pcgamer.com/humankind-culture-guide/ (https://www.pcgamer.com/humankind-culture-guide/)

https://www.pcgamer.com/humankind-guide-tips/ (https://www.pcgamer.com/humankind-guide-tips/)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Undercovergeek on August 20, 2021, 02:54:41 AM

It’s not at the top of my purchase list, stellaris dlc and Elysium coming first but im struggling with something after reading the reviews

In Civ I am Caesar, I am pharaoh and whilst not deeply RPG and immersive I still like to think in diplomacy and war ‘yeah that’s right, im frikking XXXX you’d better run’

But there doesn’t seem to be that fixed foundation here, I’m rome, then I’m Egypt, then I’m England - and I don’t think I like that

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: judgedredd on August 20, 2021, 03:34:15 AM

Quote from: Martok on August 17, 2021, 07:13:21 PM

Humankind is out today! Anyone playing it yet?

Reviews been pretty solid so far: 75% average on Steam, 80% on Metacritic.

That was a funny release video...

I haven't really paid attention to this - so what's the low down? It looks like Civ to me. What are the specific differences?

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 20, 2021, 06:54:08 AM

Quote from: judgedredd on August 20, 2021, 03:34:15 AM

It looks like Civ to me. What are the specific differences?

Quote from: bayonetbrant on August 18, 2021, 10:51:24 AM

https://www.pcgamer.com/humankind-gets-rid-of-a-lot-of-the-things-that-annoy-me-about-civilization/

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on August 22, 2021, 08:32:57 PM

A most entertaining video. The levels & degrees of sardonicism indicate one who is a master of his craft. ;D

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on August 24, 2021, 10:23:46 PM

Beta patch just dropped. Looks like a pretty extensive list of fixes & improvements:

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/forums/215-bug-reports/threads/43576

Spoiler: Show

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: judgedredd on August 25, 2021, 01:21:13 AM

Did anyone bite on this? If so, what are your opinions.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on August 25, 2021, 07:28:05 AM

Quote from: judgedredd on August 25, 2021, 01:21:13 AM

Did anyone bite on this? If so, what are your opinions.

I have it and have been playing the last few days. Still early but here's what I think so far:

Great looking game, better than Civ.
Much deeper game than Civ. You can play shallow and keep hitting the end turn button but you will be missing a lot.
Micro-management a bit higher in some aspects, lower in others.
I like the breakout battles, like Endless Legend. It's like mini tactical battels that make you think about army composition. Terrain makes a difference. City sieges are interesting.
Still working out cultures changes through eras... like it but can be jarring to start as Zhou, then become Greek, then Umayyad. You can just stay as one culture for the whole game though, need to try that.
LOTS of reading, at least the first time through. They have spent a lot of time building story and history into the game. Great stuff in my opinion.
Diplomacy is deeper than Civ and more nuanced too.
Wars are different too. Your people's War Support is very important and you need to drive down your enemies to win. Yu do this by taking territory and winning battles. Just started my first so not much to tell here yet.

In short, I like it a lot. It's seems slow going, on regular speed, because of all the reading and all the choices in city building, army building, civic choice, religion choices, exploration, diplomacy, etc. etc. But it's not boring or dragging. Very immersive, for me.
:bigthumb:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on August 25, 2021, 08:08:15 AM

^I'd agree with most of that except the jury is still out on diplomacy for me. I'm not convinced (yet) that it's any better than Civ, it just seems like better smoke and mirrors.
As for the era culture changes- I don't like it. I was hoping you could pick one Civ to stick with through the entire game and choose/compete for cultural "add-ons" as you progress. In other words, you would be the Romans the entire game but might not look anything at all like the Romans we know and love.

Overall, great game so far. 8)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: judgedredd on August 25, 2021, 08:45:25 AM

Thanks

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Undercovergeek on August 26, 2021, 07:41:32 AM

Quote from: judgedredd on August 25, 2021, 08:45:25 AM

Thanks

So when you getting it 🤪

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: judgedredd on August 26, 2021, 10:35:30 AM

:2funny:

Erm - nah

I've not really heard much in the way of "huge" changes over Civ. Not really enough to make me jump in. I'll wait on a sale - as I am doing for F1 2021 and a couple of other games (City of Gangsters is on my list)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 15, 2021, 03:16:49 PM

Progress update:

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1124300/view/3035981384849460725

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on November 09, 2021, 06:24:26 PM

The Fabius Maximus update finally dropped last week, along with Humankind's first "event", the "Día de los Muertos":

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/blogs/789

Quote

a quick summary of what it contains:

You can set opponents in the new game lobby to pick a random avatar from your collection
You can customize the colors used for empires and subtitles (e.g. diplomacy dialog or the narrator)
You can choose the abundance of strategic and luxury resources when creaing a new game
Several cultures have been rebalanced
Expansionist era stars are now easier to achieve in the early game on large maps
The expansionist ability is now free and can be used on enemies at war
Food gains and mammoth strength in the neolithic have been adjusted to slow down early growth
Population food consumption and district costs have been increase to slow down excessive growth
Several Civics have received new effects
Added varied unit art to improve immersion
And of course, lots of bugfixes

On top of that, the mod tools beta was released a couple days later:

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/blogs/790-mod-tools-beta-available-now

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on November 12, 2021, 04:08:47 PM

Whatever the game's reception, apparently it's done well enough overall...

SEGA says Humankind had a "good start", wants to make it a "series in the future" (https://www.gamewatcher.com/news/humankind-2-release-news)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: ojsdad on November 21, 2021, 06:37:34 PM

I found this article doing some comparison between Civ and HK. Vance says it's a good article.

I'm probably going to purchase while its on sale right now.

https://screenrant.com/humankind-civilization-6-gameplay-differences-cities-victory-scoring/

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: ojsdad on November 21, 2021, 06:39:46 PM

Also, this is listed on the store page as one of the more helpful reviews. I'd be curious if others here share this persons opinion.

Quote

Review after the first playthrough of a Game from a player with 1000 hours in Civilization 5&6:

The the first 50 rounds felt like the best part of the game. Its really cool to run around as a tribe and settle your first cities. Its also the part, where microing felt really neccesary. Unlike you do in Civ, in Humankind you dont have builers. You build all your modernisations in your city centers. This means with a huge construction base, you get improe your empire really fast.

I played with Egypt as my first culture, who turned out to be very OP. My starting position was also very lucky, after eating my close neighbor, i could settle half of the biggest continent and island hop to the new world very early. Influence usually limits your expansion speed, but with my huge production base, I easily managed to be +3 over my city limit the whole game. As a result expanding was posible and in a very peaceful way. You could also say boring.

In the mid game, improving my city became very repeative. Lining up production orders and hunting barbarians was the main part of the gameplay. In Civ 6 planing your citys district by district is one of its strongest points imo. Adjacency bonusses are existing, too, but it feels less important, because you are building so many of them.

Religion, trade, culture/influece do exist, but it doesnt felt like it is really important. You build the stuff to push the number, but the influence on the gameplay is realative low. I had the biggest religion in the world, but Im not sure if I had any benefits from it.

The lategame was kind of strange. My big neighbour entered the last chapter of the game a couple rounds before I did, but I dont think he was even close to threaten my win. With my big empire and a fitting culture, I pumped out ridiculous amounts of science, finishing all the endgame techs in 1 round each. It was now a race between my Mars programm and researching all future techs, which also wins you the game.

There are many aspects of the game I had no oppurtunity to have a look on. War against a nation as strong as me with modern weapons wont happen, because I win the game 10 rounds after finishing the first modern military techs. My only neighbor (my biggest rival) and me were allies since day 1.

You have some kind of influence on other players cities, but I didnt saw any way to benefit from this. Also trade and luxuries didnt impact the game very much. I build it, earn the yields and thats it.

So, why I'm still recommending the game?

Everyone who played Civ 6 or Civ 5 vanilla knows how awefull they were on launch. Key elements of the game were totally missing. 3 years of proper developement and Addons made it the great games they are today.

I really see this way for Humankind, too. The potential in the game is huge. The atmosphere beats Civ already, because you are really feel like watching a civilisation forming over millenias. Yes, many features need to get a more significant impact and to interact better. It would be also nice if the cultures would play more different in terms of gamemechanics and unique stuff, because it seems like they simply have boosts for either science, gold, production or influece.

Balancing is a problem, where much work has to be done.

Overall i dont recommend this game for players who are completly new to the genre. Buy Civ 6, Platinum Edition has a great price and its definetly the better game in its current state. But remember it took 3 huuuuge Addons to bring it to this point.

For those who are used to the genre, its a really fresh impression, it has much atmospheric rollplay, cool ideas and is looking very nice. If the devs make it right, they can easily turn Humankind in a game that equals the quality of Civ 5&6. Buy it cheap, play a few games, let it alone for some fixes and Addons and watch it improve.

Rating 7/10

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on November 21, 2021, 08:32:50 PM

Yeah, mostly. I'm a little more positive of the current game than he is but it does need some more depth to certain parts.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 22, 2021, 10:13:19 AM

Quote from: ojsdad on November 21, 2021, 06:39:46 PM

Also, this is listed on the store page as one of the more helpful reviews. I'd be curious if others here share this persons opinion.

Quote
Review after the first playthrough of a Game from a player with 1000 hours in Civilization 5&6:

The the first 50 rounds felt like the best part of the game. Its really cool to run around as a tribe and settle your first cities. Its also the part, where microing felt really neccesary. Unlike you do in Civ, in Humankind you dont have builers. You build all your modernisations in your city centers. This means with a huge construction base, you get improe your empire really fast.

The misspellings and word destruction in reviews on any given Steam page usually give me too much of a headache to dive too deeply into them.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on November 22, 2021, 10:47:13 AM

Quote from: BanzaiCat on November 22, 2021, 10:13:19 AM

The misspellings and word destruction in reviews on any given Steam page usually give me too much of a headache to dive too deeply into them.

This! :doh:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 23, 2021, 11:51:51 AM

I pulled the trigger last night on this after finding it on sale on Fanatical (https://www.fanatical.com/en/game/humankind-digital-deluxe-edition).

I only had time to play it a bit last night, but I like what I see. I'm going to enjoy figuring things out - I'd rather play to learn than watch a bunch of videos. I'll do the latter if I get stuck trying to figure something out.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: HellCat6 on November 23, 2021, 10:40:04 PM

Thank you Banzai Cat for the heads up on the discount!!!

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on November 24, 2021, 02:03:18 AM

I downloaded the demo (kudos to Amplitude/Sega for doing that). I'm planning to take a crack at it when I get back next week.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 24, 2021, 10:17:20 AM

Yeah, I'm going to be lucky to be able to spend any time with it over the holidays, unfortunately. :(

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on November 24, 2021, 10:23:27 AM

Quote from: BanzaiCat on November 24, 2021, 10:17:20 AM

Yeah, I'm going to be lucky to be able to spend any time with it over the holidays, unfortunately. :(

And painting the minis. Don't forget that!

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: HellCat6 on November 26, 2021, 12:47:25 PM

Quote from: BanzaiCat on November 24, 2021, 10:17:20 AM

Yeah, I'm going to be lucky to be able to spend any time with it over the holidays, unfortunately. :(

Got a kid with COVID, so a lot more time than normal. I'm really liking the game on my 3rd attempt.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on November 26, 2021, 01:30:09 PM

Yikes! Hope your kid gets better soon.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: HellCat6 on November 26, 2021, 02:45:40 PM

She was down for a couple days, even with the shot. But now, now she's just milking it to get out of work. IMHO.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on November 30, 2021, 07:50:04 AM

Apparently there's a fairly major problem with the "Día de los Muertos" event that dropped alongside the Fabius Maximus update earlier this month. Sounds like Amplitude screwed up pretty badly, and a lot of folks are upset:

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/blogs/794

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on November 30, 2021, 10:16:47 AM

Meh... events mean little to me so haven't noticed anything game breaking....

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: ojsdad on November 30, 2021, 10:21:10 PM

Question on cities and outposts. In the early game, us it better to get two cities early or one city with one or more attached outposts?

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on December 01, 2021, 06:34:15 AM

Good question… let me know when you figure it out. :)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: ojsdad on December 01, 2021, 02:11:03 PM

Looking at a couple of different articles on the build city/attach thoughts. It seems like two maybe three attachments is the sweetspot. It makes some sense. In order for Outposts to build improvements, they require influence, a city uses industry. The downside though, is that a city can have a single build queue. So at some point, you want a second city just to have the additional build queue.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: HellCat6 on December 03, 2021, 08:26:29 PM

Well, not sure I'm going to play much more of HK. The beginning and middle is fun, but the end dragssssssssssssssssss on. My last game ended when my armor unit was destroyed 4 hexes from the beach by a pair of irregulars firing 500km away...

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on December 04, 2021, 03:20:54 AM

Sounds like they've managed to capture at least one aspect of the Civ series (at least in spirit). ;D

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: ojsdad on December 05, 2021, 09:49:45 AM

Overall I'm liking what is there. But there are balancing issues that need to be looked at. Civs are getting into the Medieval period before 1 AD, I'm into the Classical error, but haven't invented the wheel yet. I also think the independent nations (think city states) that popup can be a little too powerful.

I do like the use of influence to claim more lands, and I love the ability to link outposts to a city. This is, in my mind, forming provinces. I would like to see a city get an additional build queue for adding outposts to a city.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: ojsdad on December 13, 2021, 03:57:42 PM

New update released this morning. Over 758mb.

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IMPORTANT CHANGES AND ADDITIONS
Improved the way lines of sight are feedbacked in battle.
Added the ability to use Avatar rewards as AI opponents, including La Catrina.
Improved AI: military strategic planning (armies management, reinforcement, bombing, disembarkment, ...)
Improved AI: territories claiming behaviours.
Improved AI: diplomatic camps and alliances creation.
Improved AI: fame gathering.
Improved AI: pollution management.

CHANGES AND ADDITIONS
Improved game data telemetry flow.
Added settings for colorblind modes once the game is launched.
Added detailed tooltips on challenges rewards.
Improved the visibility of the challenges on the Main menu.
Improved the challenge timer localization.
Improved the feedback when the player is not connected to G2G while trying to complete a challenge.

IMPORTANT FIXES
Fixed an issue where a stuck with errors in the loading screen is encountered under specific conditions (single and multiplayer).
Fixed an issue where a stuck with an error message occurred ingame under specific conditions (single and multiplayer).

OTHER FIXES
Fixed an issue where an error is generated when making the same Demand to an empire in a specific situation.
Fixed an issue where an error is generated at the start of a turn during normal gameplay, under specific conditions.
Fixed an issue where an error is generated after pressing the Next Player button from the End Game screen, under specific conditions.
Fixed an issue where an error is generated when the player connects to the G2G account, under specific conditions.
Fixed an issue where an error is generated when booting up the title while not being connected to the G2G account, under specific conditions.
Fixed an issue where an error is generated when the player attempts to edit the settings for a competitor for the first time on a fresh install.
Fixed an issue where an error is generated after pressing the "Locate the Event" button of an Osmosis Event notification during late-game.
Fixed an issue where an error is generated in Main Menu after leaving a session where a natural wonder was discovered first time by the player.
Fixed an issue where an error is generated when the client in a lobby clicks on the Pace button, under specific conditions.
Fixed an issue where an error is generated when loading a specific quick save of a multiplayer session.
Fixed an issue where an AI-related error is generated when two AI empires declared war on each other, under specific conditions.
Fixed an issue where an AI-related error is generated during gameplay, under specific conditions.
Fixed an issue where an AI related error is generated when ending turn, under specific conditions.

CHALLENGES
Fixed an issue where challenge availability can be modified by changing the computer date and time.
Fixed an issue where the Civil evolution challenge does not always complete by the community users.
Fixed an issue where the population sacrificed for the completion of Cultural Wonders is not counted in the Necropolis challenge event.
Fixed an issue where no information is provided to players that the challenge feature is available and can be unlocked by signing into G2G.

VISUALS
Fixed an issue where sections of the Mount Vesuvius 3D model are no longer rendered when moving the camera in close proximity to it.
Fixed an issue where scrolling the map for a prolonged period of time leads to a grayed out "edge".
Fixed an issue where City Population models flicker.

NARRATOR
Fixed an issue where narrator voice lines for building 30 farmers quarters trigger when the 16th farmers quarter is built.
Fixed an issue where narrator voice lines for 30 farmers quarters are triggered when building 30 market quarters.

UI
Fixed an issue where no end conditions are assigned to the "default" condition preset on first run until the preset is re-selected.
Fixed an issue where the turn symbol is displayed twice inside the pollution's tooltip.
Fixed an issue where removed player persona strengths and biases are not correctly displayed in the Community screen until restarting the game.
Fixed an issue where the second choice of the narrative event "Highway Robbery" has the same description as the first choice of the event.
Fixed an issue where debug text is displayed for one of the preset Avatars.
Fixed an issue where debug text is displayed for the connection timeout notification when refreshing the multiplayer lobby list.
Fixed an issue where debug text present in the description of the District Placement Confirmation.
Fixed an issue where debug text displayed for the "Give Me Freedom" persona strength in the Profile Screen.
Fixed an issue where debug text displayed for the tooltip of "Change State Religion" button in the Religion Panel.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on December 22, 2021, 05:46:43 PM

The editor-in-chief of Ancient World Magazine weighed in on the game. I enjoyed reading his thoughts & perspectives, both positive and negative.

https://www.ancientworldmagazine.com/articles/humankind-game/

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on February 25, 2022, 03:38:41 AM

[1.0.10.1877] "Allen Newell" Patch 3 Version Notes

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/forums/168/threads/41945%23post-350324#post-350324

Spoiler: Show

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on February 25, 2022, 08:56:37 AM

Have they added the option to keep the same civilization for the entire game yet?

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: ojsdad on February 25, 2022, 10:40:45 AM

Quote from: bbmike on February 25, 2022, 08:56:37 AM

Have they added the option to keep the same civilization for the entire game yet?

That's always been an option.

The purpose of being able to change Civs is that you can take advantage of different Civ traits in the different eras. What you cannot do is be in the modern era, and pick an classical Civ, you can only pick either your current Civ or one of the available modern era Civ.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on February 25, 2022, 12:32:20 PM

Really? Every time I enter a new era I'm forced become a new Civ. How do I keep the same name?

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on February 25, 2022, 01:25:45 PM

You can re choose the same Civ. Just highlight who you are and you will see the option. You don’t get any new “advancements” but all your fame accomplishments are increased by 10% for each era you remain the same.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on February 25, 2022, 04:36:08 PM

Meh, that's disappointing. It would be nice to have the option to add those "advancements" to your custom Civ that doesn't change its name every era. I hate the "Oh good, you Egyptians made it out of the Neolithic Era! Now you're Mayans!" thing. ::)

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on February 25, 2022, 05:27:22 PM

The way I play is to choose geographically close civs as I advance.

They have said they are working on something where you keep your original Civ name but still choose form the new cultures that become available.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on February 25, 2022, 05:43:08 PM

:bigthumb:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on April 28, 2022, 05:59:27 PM

Changes coming to how Surrender and War Support work in the pending Bolivar update:

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/blogs/814-war-support-and-surrender-in-the-bolivar-update

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on May 12, 2022, 09:53:15 PM

More QoL improvements coming in the Bolivar update:

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/blogs/816

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on May 19, 2022, 03:51:16 PM

Bolivar update is available as a beta:

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/blogs/818

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on June 10, 2022, 02:53:45 PM

The "Bolivar" update has officially released:

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1124300/view/3195878989260429233

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The Bolivar Update

There are many improvements, big and small, in the Bolivar Update. Too many to describe in detail here, but here’s a quick overview of some key improvements:

"Force Surrender” is not mandatory anymore
Natural Wonders have unique effects
Civics show their unlock conditions
Infrastructures show their expected yield
AI bonuses on higher difficulties scale over time
New Luxury Resource distribution settings
And more!

Free Culture: The Mississipians

Unlocked during a recent community challenge, the Mississippians (sometimes known as the Cahokians) join Humankind as a Builder culture in the Medieval era who are especially adept at exploiting rivers.

Dropping alongside it is the new Cultures of Latin America Pack:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1819410/HUMANKIND__Cultures_of_Latin_America_Pack/

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The HUMANKIND™ Cultures of Latin America DLC includes:
- 6 New Cultures
- 6 New Wonders
- 9 Independent Peoples
- 15 Narrative Events
- 30+ New in-game themed music tracks composed by Arnaud Roy

6 NEW WONDERS

Pyramid of the Sun - Teotihuacan
Maracana Stadium
Salar de Uyuni
Salto Angel
Lençóis Maranhenses
Atacama Desert

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bob48 on June 10, 2022, 02:55:59 PM

I'm holding back and hoping that it shows in a sale at at some point.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Undercovergeek on June 10, 2022, 03:03:47 PM

As a massive fan of amplitude I’m puzzled as to why this never grabbed me - I don’t know whether my epic time sweeping 4x ing is covered by Civ and I don’t need another or there was another reason

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bob48 on June 10, 2022, 03:05:55 PM

In my ignorance, it always looks like a Civ clone to me. I may have mention before that I have never played any of the Civ games.

Now Vance is going to shout at me again :-(

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on June 10, 2022, 03:12:58 PM

Quote from: bob48 on June 10, 2022, 03:05:55 PM

In my ignorance, it always looks like a Civ clone to me. I may have mention before that I have never played any of the Civ games.

Now Vance is going to shout at me again :-(

:doh:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bob48 on June 10, 2022, 03:13:33 PM

:'(

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on June 13, 2022, 08:50:07 AM

Quote from: Barthheart on June 10, 2022, 03:12:58 PM

Quote from: bob48 on June 10, 2022, 03:05:55 PM
In my ignorance, it always looks like a Civ clone to me. I may have mention before that I have never played any of the Civ games.

Now Vance is going to shout at me again :-(

:doh:

I know, right? We need to start a "Civilization Bob" GoFundMe page!

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on June 14, 2022, 04:05:47 AM

I would buy a "Civ Bawb" game.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Gusington on June 14, 2022, 04:31:25 PM

How does the Luftstasche get represented here?

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on June 15, 2022, 06:27:55 AM

^ I just thought that was the name of the highest difficulty level.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Gusington on June 15, 2022, 11:16:13 AM

Heh or the final boss. Final Bawb Baws.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on June 24, 2022, 05:24:17 AM

Hotfix just dropped:

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/forums/168-general/threads/41945#post-355358

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on June 29, 2022, 03:46:38 PM

Empire Names in the Ibn Battuta Update

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/blogs/823

I'm sure it's annoying, but is this really one of the game's more pressing issues? This feels a bit like a "lipstick on a pig" scenario.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on June 29, 2022, 03:58:00 PM

Actually, yes it is one of the game's more pressing issues for me. I've tried to play it but that single thing bugs me so much I just can't. Hey Egypt, you're now Japan! :idiot2:
Very happy to see this! :applause:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Barthheart on June 29, 2022, 09:50:18 PM

Yeah.... don't get yer hopes up too high... quote from the article:

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“Immersive Player Names” may actually be a more accurate name for the feature. Giving consistent names to the empires in Humankind honestly turned out more difficult than expected, and we went through several iterations looking for a version that worked well in all supported languages. In the end, we decided to move the spotlight from the empires to the avatars themselves.

So, why is this important? Well, while changing and adapting your culture to the shifts in your situation is a core part of the Humankind experience, it could honestly get pretty confusing (as many of you were quick to point out). “The huns have declared war on me? The who? Oh, they used to be...” And referring to the other players as “the green empire” or “that pink $#?@!” isn’t much fun, either, and robbed the avatars of a lot of their personality, as they were just not very present while playing.

Now the game will focus on the avatar name for most interactions (with their culture usually added in brackets), so you should feel much more like you are interacting with the same leaders throughout your game, rather than a string of different cultures. You’ll probably notice this most with the various notifications, where you don’t get the benefit of seeing the other avatar as you do on the diplomacy screen. Now it’ll be much easier to keep track of who is who and what they’re up to if they’re properly addressed by name.

So not fixed names for your empire after all... what a load of crap. :censored:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on June 30, 2022, 08:35:24 AM

Oh, dear. :doh:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: ojsdad on June 30, 2022, 10:06:11 AM

Still no pbem option?

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on July 07, 2022, 05:56:00 AM

QoL improvements coming in the Ibn Battuta update -- better looking cities, being able to better plan out your civics, and improved line of sight:

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1124300/view/3351256912677849640

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on July 13, 2022, 05:42:52 AM

More changes coming in the Ibn Battuta update, including re-work to four different cultures:

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/blogs/827

More detailed notes are here:

https://www.games2gether.com/amplitude-studios/humankind/forums/245-balancing-tenets-cultures-influence/threads/49286-balancing-on-battuta-update?page=1#post-356716

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on July 30, 2022, 03:41:11 AM

Uff-da. So the Ibn Battuta update was released, but it was placed back on the beta branch due to numerous crash reports. Unfortunately, non-Steam players are stuck with the Battuta version as is for now.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1124300/view/3377155056820137021

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on August 19, 2022, 07:38:20 PM

One Year Anniversary:

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1124300/view/3377156325989128971

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on September 09, 2022, 04:03:29 AM

First major expansion announced. Due out sometime this fall.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1833990/HUMANKIND__Together_We_Rule_Expansion_Pack/

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Anguille on September 09, 2022, 07:41:54 AM

Quote from: Martok on September 09, 2022, 04:03:29 AM

First major expansion announced. Due out sometime this fall.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1833990/HUMANKIND__Together_We_Rule_Expansion_Pack/

I always like diplomacy the most in 4x games.... :party:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on September 14, 2022, 10:53:51 AM

Quote from: Anguille on September 09, 2022, 07:41:54 AM

Quote from: Martok on September 09, 2022, 04:03:29 AM
First major expansion announced. Due out sometime this fall.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1833990/HUMANKIND__Together_We_Rule_Expansion_Pack/

I always like diplomacy the most in 4x games.... :party:

Really? Which 4x games had diplomacy in them? :whistle:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Anguille on September 14, 2022, 05:00:15 PM

Quote from: bbmike on September 14, 2022, 10:53:51 AM

Quote from: Anguille on September 09, 2022, 07:41:54 AM
Quote from: Martok on September 09, 2022, 04:03:29 AM
First major expansion announced. Due out sometime this fall.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1833990/HUMANKIND__Together_We_Rule_Expansion_Pack/

I always like diplomacy the most in 4x games.... :party:

Really? Which 4x games had diplomacy in them? :whistle:

Master of Orion

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 07, 2022, 03:38:21 AM

Humankind is free to play this weekend (through Monday). It's also 50% off until next Wednesday (Oct. 13).

Also: An overview of the Together We Rule expansion...

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1124300/view/3290467015407590175

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bob48 on October 07, 2022, 06:25:45 AM

That is tempting.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bbmike on October 07, 2022, 09:43:08 AM

Quote from: bob48 on October 07, 2022, 06:25:45 AM

That is tempting.

Play Civilization you heathen! ;D

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: bob48 on October 07, 2022, 09:53:35 AM

'sharnt - so there. >:(

...and if you try and make me, I'll thweam and scweam until I'm thwick.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Anguille on October 07, 2022, 12:18:43 PM

The Swiss are one of the new cultures!
I buy it :bigthumb:

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on October 16, 2022, 04:24:36 PM

Embassies and Reinforcements:

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1124300/view/3546047018697132471

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on November 02, 2022, 07:31:55 PM

Congress of Humankind and Independent People:

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1124300/view/3546047018704237817

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Gusington on March 22, 2023, 03:09:07 PM

Anyone still playing this? Thinking of picking it up in the Steam spring sale.

Title: Re: HUMANKIND
Post by: Martok on May 02, 2023, 04:31:46 AM

I noticed the (free) Para Bellum Wonder Pack and accompanying Vauban update released last week. Anyone here check it out?

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1124300/view/3684550462545701315?l=english

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