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Title: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 05, 2019, 06:05:03 AM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/warandpeacegame/915725506?ref=armchairdragoons&token=55d4f6ab

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/026/012/646/177e106c0f042c575193da779b220400_original.png?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&w=680&fit=max&v=1564766155&auto=format&gif-q=50&lossless=true&s=fe64dac38cbadb11daca0afaea6e8d22)


and I love the comments about the company

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OSS Games is a small company. We are composed of no full-time staff,  but  rather are a group of individuals who enjoy producing games in our  spare  time. Our MO is to produce small print-run games with  consistently high production values. We try to bring you the highest  quality product possible for a reasonable amount of money. We do this  because we enjoy  it.

That said, we are a game publisher, not a PR firm. We limit   communication to essential announcements. Therefore, we will not be   posting constant updates about everything little thing. Our posts will   be limited to essential milestones, such as the game going to press,  the  receipt of press samples, or when the game begins shipping. The  press  process is often one of waiting punctuated by occasional back and  forth on minor issues. If you don't hear from us in the updates  section, this  is simply because we do not have any update that changes  status of the  previous one.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: beetcafe on August 07, 2019, 01:46:28 PM
The other day I swore I was going to stop pledging Kickstarters. That didn't last very long.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 07, 2019, 03:01:43 PM
The other day I swore I was going to stop pledging Kickstarters. That didn't last very long.


we post but to serve!  :peace:
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: panzerde on August 07, 2019, 05:56:35 PM
For an entire day I pretended like I wasn't going to buy this.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 07, 2019, 06:59:30 PM
For an entire day I pretended like I wasn't going to buy this.


 :ROFL:
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Barthheart on August 07, 2019, 07:02:13 PM
For an entire day I pretended like I wasn't going to buy this.

That long eh?
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: panzerde on August 07, 2019, 09:51:08 PM
For an entire day I pretended like I wasn't going to buy this.

That long eh?

Well, I was tired...
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: tuna on August 08, 2019, 07:29:16 AM
How big is that map?
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 08, 2019, 07:34:18 AM
How big is that map?


I mean, it's all of Europe....  8)
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: tuna on August 08, 2019, 05:40:47 PM
How big is that map?


I mean, it's all of Europe....  8)

I guess my question really is, would it fit on a table?
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 08, 2019, 06:06:28 PM
^^^

Scroll down to near the bottom:

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One large MOUNTED map board in two 22" x 34" sections

So, probably 44"/almost four feet across by 34"/almost three feet. Rather large.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: beetcafe on August 12, 2019, 10:12:24 AM
Launch date is Friday, August 16th.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Adam on August 15, 2019, 10:32:29 AM
Looks interesting but I know nothing about the original.  Was this a definitive Napolenoics game?  What makes this one special / worth backing?
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 15, 2019, 10:35:14 AM
Looks interesting but I know nothing about the original.  Was this a definitive Napolenoics game?  What makes this one special / worth backing?


"definitive" is questionable, given the enormous breadth of Napoleonic games




but it was the first mass-market strat-level treatment of the entire Napoleonic wars, from end to end


Best descriptor I ever heard was "It's Third Reich for Napoleonic War fans"
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Cyrano on August 16, 2019, 10:11:51 AM
Not definitive, no such thing, and, depending on my mood, I can prefer the designer's other strategic-level games (Napoleonic Wars, Wellington, Kutusov),  but I call it classic without hesitation.

It has always been to me the kinder, gentler brother of "Empires in Arms".

The system is straight-forward and the scenarios are each a good study of the campaign in question.

The only problem, which the designer acknowledges, is that the grand campaign never quite worked.  This has been one of the biggest goals of the re-design.

Very much looking forward to it.  I was in when it was up for pre-order on OSS.  Concerned it didn't make the minimum there and hope the KS gets this done.

Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 16, 2019, 10:14:01 AM
Not definitive, no such thing, and, depending on my mood, I can prefer the designer's other strategic-level games (Napoleonic Wars, Wellington, Kutusov),  but I call it classic without hesitation.


I think that at the time, it was "the" grand-scope end-to-end game though, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bbmike on August 16, 2019, 10:50:08 AM
...Concerned it didn't make the minimum there and hope the KS gets this done.

I'm gonna help out with that.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Cyrano on August 16, 2019, 10:52:58 AM
...Concerned it didn't make the minimum there and hope the KS gets this done.

I'm gonna help out with that.

You're a good man.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: beetcafe on August 16, 2019, 01:34:56 PM
It's live: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/warandpeacegame/mark-mclaughlins-war-and-peace

And yes, I am a backer.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 16, 2019, 02:28:54 PM
I gotta say, those counters look a lot more like Soldier Kings than War & Peace
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: panzerde on August 16, 2019, 02:39:59 PM
Yep, backed.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: panzerde on August 16, 2019, 04:04:28 PM
Funded in six hours.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Cyrano on August 16, 2019, 04:17:58 PM
Not definitive, no such thing, and, depending on my mood, I can prefer the designer's other strategic-level games (Napoleonic Wars, Wellington, Kutusov),  but I call it classic without hesitation.


I think that at the time, it was "the" grand-scope end-to-end game though, wasn't it?

Insofar as "EiA" is three years younger, yes.

Although, and I feel like I'm running down a game I love, it must again be said that the defects in the GC were found pretty quickly.

Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bbmike on August 16, 2019, 05:00:27 PM
Funded in six hours.

No need to thank me.  :P
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: mirth on August 16, 2019, 05:10:52 PM
KS is just not my thing. I'm glad I backed the WaW 85 kickstarter, but I am not mentally predisposed to waiting 6-8 months to get my game after I paid for it.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Cyrano on August 16, 2019, 05:12:57 PM
KS is just not my thing. I'm glad I backed the WaW 85 kickstarter, but I am not mentally predisposed to waiting 6-8 months to get my game after I paid for it.

Different from p500 in what way, dearest cardboard harlot?

Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bbmike on August 16, 2019, 05:13:40 PM
KS is just not my thing. I'm glad I backed the WaW 85 kickstarter, but I am not mentally predisposed to waiting 6-8 months to get my game after I paid for it.

They're great for me. The wife says, "when did you buy that?!?" and I say, "oh, like 6 to 8 months ago!".  :hehe:
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Cyrano on August 16, 2019, 05:16:42 PM
KS is just not my thing. I'm glad I backed the WaW 85 kickstarter, but I am not mentally predisposed to waiting 6-8 months to get my game after I paid for it.

They're great for me. The wife says, "when did you buy that?!?" and I say, "oh, like 6 to 8 months ago!".  :hehe:

Ix-nay on elling-tay ecrets-say in ublic-pay!

Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: mirth on August 16, 2019, 05:17:56 PM
KS is just not my thing. I'm glad I backed the WaW 85 kickstarter, but I am not mentally predisposed to waiting 6-8 months to get my game after I paid for it.

Different from p500 in what way, dearest cardboard harlot?
Not all different. I also don't do p500s.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Cyrano on August 16, 2019, 05:23:00 PM
KS is just not my thing. I'm glad I backed the WaW 85 kickstarter, but I am not mentally predisposed to waiting 6-8 months to get my game after I paid for it.

Different from p500 in what way, dearest cardboard harlot?
Not all different. I also don't do p500s.

My marshal's hat, then, is doffed to your self-restraint.  I have that highly irrational fear of "but, but, what if I don't get one" with things I really want.

And some I only think I want.

Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 16, 2019, 05:32:29 PM
I have that highly irrational fear of "but, but, what if I don't get one" with things I really want.


Yeah, so when is Up Front supposed to get delivered, anyway?   :whistle:








 :hug:
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Cyrano on August 16, 2019, 05:35:00 PM
Any day now!

You'll see!

All you doubters will see!!!

Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: mirth on August 16, 2019, 07:53:19 PM
Any day now!

You'll see!

All you doubters will see!!!

It's not a doubters issue at all. I personally don't like waiting 6-plus months for a game I have paid upfront for. I don't do pre-orders, I don't do p-500s. I hate having my money tied up on a maybe.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Cyrano on August 16, 2019, 08:32:07 PM
Any day now!

You'll see!

All you doubters will see!!!

It's not a doubters issue at all. I personally don't like waiting 6-plus months for a game I have paid upfront for. I don't do pre-orders, I don't do p-500s. I hate having my money tied up on a maybe.

Only responding to Brant's mocking my Up Front! suffering which now enters, what, it's seventh year?

Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Barthheart on August 17, 2019, 07:33:47 AM
Any day now!

You'll see!

All you doubters will see!!!

It's not a doubters issue at all. I personally don't like waiting 6-plus months for a game I have paid upfront for. I don't do pre-orders, I don't do p-500s. I hate having my money tied up on a maybe.

Only responding to Brant's mocking my Up Front! suffering which now enters, what, it's seventh year?

Yer not the only one suffering.... :waiting:  :doh:
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bbmike on August 17, 2019, 08:30:24 AM
Up Front Complete Game [BUNDLE] (https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/148406/Up-Front-Complete-Game-BUNDLE)
(http://www.aarcentral.com/emoti/HideEyes.gif) >:D
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Barthheart on August 17, 2019, 08:40:12 AM
Yeah... I keep thinking about that....
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bbmike on August 18, 2019, 10:02:25 AM
$21K of $10K goal pledged and still 28 days to go.  :D
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Cyrano on August 18, 2019, 11:08:30 AM
$21K of $10K goal pledged and still 28 days to go.  :D

And no stretch goals -- which I very much respect.

Strange to have done so well so quickly as the OSS pre-order languished for quite some time.

Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: tuna on August 19, 2019, 03:11:43 PM
KS is just not my thing. I'm glad I backed the WaW 85 kickstarter, but I am not mentally predisposed to waiting 6-8 months to get my game after I paid for it.

They're great for me. The wife says, "when did you buy that?!?" and I say, "oh, like 6 to 8 months ago!".  :hehe:

Deception of the sig other, no wonder haley's comet only comes every 75 years!
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Arctic Blast on August 23, 2019, 05:24:40 PM
KS is just not my thing. I'm glad I backed the WaW 85 kickstarter, but I am not mentally predisposed to waiting 6-8 months to get my game after I paid for it.

6-8 months? That's awfully optimistic of you.  ;D
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: mirth on August 23, 2019, 09:39:34 PM
KS is just not my thing. I'm glad I backed the WaW 85 kickstarter, but I am not mentally predisposed to waiting 6-8 months to get my game after I paid for it.

6-8 months? That's awfully optimistic of you.  ;D

I know.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bbmike on February 15, 2020, 08:50:56 AM
Shipping Update!

Yesterday I had an email exchange with the importer for War & Peace. He told me the ETA of the games to US port (Baltimore) was Feb 28. Give a week or so for customs and other import related contingencies, that should put us on time for a March ship-out.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/warandpeacegame/mark-mclaughlins-war-and-peace/posts/2757300?ref=ksr_email_backer_project_update_registered_users (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/warandpeacegame/mark-mclaughlins-war-and-peace/posts/2757300?ref=ksr_email_backer_project_update_registered_users)
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: panzerde on February 15, 2020, 05:09:48 PM
Shipping Update!

Yesterday I had an email exchange with the importer for War & Peace. He told me the ETA of the games to US port (Baltimore) was Feb 28. Give a week or so for customs and other import related contingencies, that should put us on time for a March ship-out.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/warandpeacegame/mark-mclaughlins-war-and-peace/posts/2757300?ref=ksr_email_backer_project_update_registered_users (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/warandpeacegame/mark-mclaughlins-war-and-peace/posts/2757300?ref=ksr_email_backer_project_update_registered_users)


Shipping survey completed...

Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Cyrano on February 15, 2020, 05:32:14 PM
READY!!!
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: mike0liver on February 21, 2020, 10:59:58 AM
KS is just not my thing. I'm glad I backed the WaW 85 kickstarter, but I am not mentally predisposed to waiting 6-8 months to get my game after I paid for it.

As far as I remember, you don't get charged until the target is reached. Obviously, it will take them some time to produce the game and get it ready for shipment - THAT'S where you need to be careful. My company did a KS for a Napoleonic naval game and the supplier totally screwed us up. It took over a year to recover and send out all the orders - we lost a small fortune! The supplier got away without loss. I won't get involved with KS any more (as a buyer or a seller) but P500 seems OK - it does seem that Commands & Colors:Napoleonics Expansion 8 is taking forever but, again, you don't get charged until close to despatch.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 21, 2020, 11:31:04 AM
Yeah, P500 won't charge you until they begin shipping.

It's technically more like P700 in that they need about 700 copies pledged, but still.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: beetcafe on March 18, 2020, 11:59:51 AM
Got my copy yesterday. After a brief look through the box, I was very pleased with the components.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bayonetbrant on March 18, 2020, 12:11:01 PM
Got my copy yesterday. After a brief look through the box, I was very pleased with the components.


PICS!
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: beetcafe on March 18, 2020, 01:47:25 PM
Quick pic while at home for lunch. I need to setup the second table so the map will fit.

(http://cis290.com/userfiles/warandpeace.jpg)
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bayonetbrant on March 18, 2020, 01:58:51 PM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bob48 on March 18, 2020, 02:20:45 PM
 :bigthumb: :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bbmike on March 18, 2020, 02:53:46 PM
I thought I read there was a delay. You mean I may get this soon?  :D
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bob48 on March 18, 2020, 03:27:50 PM
Yes, but you can't play it without getting written permission from us first  ;)
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bbmike on March 18, 2020, 04:01:30 PM
Okay.  :-[
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: panzerde on March 18, 2020, 04:41:13 PM
Okay.  :-[


Actually, you have to bring it here and then go sit outside while I inspect it to be sure it's free of the 'rona.

Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: Cyrano on March 18, 2020, 08:24:27 PM
Okay.  :-[


Actually, you have to bring it here and then go sit outside while I inspect it to be sure it's free of the 'rona.

LICK YOUR COUNTERS!

QUICKLY!

HE'S FIXIN' TO THIEVE YOUR GAME!

After you clip the counters, of course.

On layout alone this one DEMOLISHES the original.  The rule book is a pleasure.
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bbmike on March 21, 2020, 03:49:21 PM
It. Has. Arrived! Feels like there's lead in the box.

(https://www.aarcentral.com/pics3/IMG_4191.jpg)
Title: Re: Updated "War & Peace" coming soon to Kickstarter
Post by: bob48 on March 21, 2020, 03:53:40 PM
 :bigthumb: