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Title: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: judgedredd on May 15, 2019, 05:14:23 PM
Has anyone played this?

I watched an unboxing and the components looked fantastic - but that's only part of the battle.

I've not really got one of these "area" type games...most of my games (all?) are individual units (platoon mostly). I think the closest thing I have to something like this is Fleet Commander Nimitz (and I only mean that in the sense of the map being split into areas).

I don't really know what these kinds of games play like. I mean, 1 turn is a year!!

Anyway, any thoughts would be appreciated...though I'm likely to buy anyway!


BH - I'd be interested to know what you think about games (like this and Conflict of Heroes) where the counters are pre-rounded? Are you against rounded counters altogether or are pre-rounded ones ok?  :hehe:
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: Barthheart on May 15, 2019, 05:28:39 PM
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BH - I'd be interested to know what you think about games (like this and Conflict of Heroes) where the counters are pre-rounded? Are you against rounded counters altogether or are pre-rounded ones ok?  :hehe:

Smart arse.  :P
I’m against the idea of wasting time cutting the corners off counters. I like counters with sharp square corners.
If they come pre-rounded that’s fine... I’m not about to waste time squaring them up.
Just play the damn game.
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: mirth on May 15, 2019, 06:20:57 PM
"This is a card-driven, area-based design with low counter density and a much simplified combat system"


Pass. Pass. And Pass.

Does come with solitaire rules for all you guys who don't have friends :P
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 15, 2019, 06:45:00 PM
Does come with solitaire rules for all you guys who don't have friends :P

...or have smart-arse friends that don't live near you so you gotta do what you gotta do :p
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: mirth on May 15, 2019, 06:48:43 PM
so you gotta do what you gotta do :p

play with yourself
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: bbmike on May 15, 2019, 06:50:21 PM
"This is a card-driven, area-based design with low counter density and a much simplified combat system"


Pass. Pass. And Pass.

Does come with solitaire rules for all you guys who don't have friends :P

Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 15, 2019, 06:50:45 PM
so you gotta do what you gotta do :p

play with yourself

Like I said, you gotta do what you gotta do.
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: mirth on May 15, 2019, 06:53:55 PM
"This is a card-driven, area-based design with low counter density and a much simplified combat system"


Pass. Pass. And Pass.

Does come with solitaire rules for all you guys who don't have friends :P



Oh you're one to point fingers
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: bbmike on May 15, 2019, 07:24:58 PM
 >:D
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: judgedredd on May 16, 2019, 12:44:54 AM
"This is a card-driven, area-based design with low counter density and a much simplified combat system"


Pass. Pass. And Pass.

Does come with solitaire rules for all you guys who don't have friends :P
I noticed last night that I do have a Falklands game I recently bought (but haven't played yet surprise, surprise!) which is area based. But it is quite old. Rule book isn't very pretty, counters aren't particularly pretty and map isn't mounted...all very "cheap" looking though it wasn't really on price.

The components on this look great. Mounted board, good looking cards and counters. I love me the Vietnam era too. I've got Heroes of the Nam (not played...I'm seeing a pattern!) which is platoon level, so this could be a nice edition to the era.

GimpyGamer has done a couple of videos. I think I'll take a look today.

Also, haven't I seen you guys discuss Compass Games before? Now I can't recall if that was in a good light or a bad light. Do they make "generally" good games?
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: judgedredd on May 16, 2019, 12:46:37 AM
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BH - I'd be interested to know what you think about games (like this and Conflict of Heroes) where the counters are pre-rounded? Are you against rounded counters altogether or are pre-rounded ones ok?  :hehe:

Smart arse.  :P
I’m against the idea of wasting time cutting the corners off counters. I like counters with sharp square corners.
If they come pre-rounded that’s fine... I’m not about to waste time squaring them up.
Just play the damn game.
I was genuinely interested if it was the actual cutting you didn't like or the rounded corners themselves

Now I know  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: mirth on May 16, 2019, 05:25:57 AM
Also, haven't I seen you guys discuss Compass Games before? Now I can't recall if that was in a good light or a bad light. Do they make "generally" good games?

Generally good. I have some concerns about their aggressive release schedule and the ability to maintain quality. They are churning out a lot of games lately.


I attended the first Compass run convention last year. Great event that I am planning on attending again this year. They had a con sale of 50% off on all their current, in-print games. I picked up Korea: Fire and Ice as well as South China Sea. The maps/components are not up to a GMT level of quality, imo. Not to say that they were terrible, but they also did not really impress me. I'm happy to have bought the games at 50% off, but I would have been a little disappointed if I had paid full retail which would have been in the range of $70-80 USD for each.

I'm not trying to dissuade you from a purchase. There are several Compass games in the pipeline that I have my eye on and will likely purchase at the 2019 con. However, definitely do your homework first which it sounds like you have already for Hearts and Minds.
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: judgedredd on May 16, 2019, 07:59:34 AM
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I'm not trying to dissuade you from a purchase.
Not at all. I posted because I'd like feedback  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 16, 2019, 08:30:58 AM
I noticed last night that I do have a Falklands game I recently bought (but haven't played yet surprise, surprise!) which is area based. But it is quite old. Rule book isn't very pretty, counters aren't particularly pretty and map isn't mounted...all very "cheap" looking though it wasn't really on price.


Was that "Where There Is Discord" ?
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: judgedredd on May 16, 2019, 10:14:32 AM
lol - no. That was a different level of cost. It was Margaret Thatcher's War

I'm going to get that out this weekend  ???
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: mirth on May 16, 2019, 10:18:21 AM
I looked at that one a few times and passed. Be nice to know what you think of it though.


We need a good Falklands game that encompasses the Air/Land/Naval/Political aspects. I'm surprised no one is pursuing such a game. It would be an instant buy for me.
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: bbmike on May 16, 2019, 10:24:48 AM
lol - no. That was a different level of cost. It was Margaret Thatcher's War

I'm going to get that out this weekend  ???

That's a Ben Madison game. If it's anything like Don't Tread On Me it will be worth every penny.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: judgedredd on May 16, 2019, 11:24:42 AM
lol - no. That was a different level of cost. It was Margaret Thatcher's War

I'm going to get that out this weekend  ???

That's a Ben Madison game. If it's anything like Don't Tread On Me it will be worth every penny.  :bigthumb:
Cool. I did hear good things about it which is why I bought it - but personally I thought the components are kind of showing their age. The map and mechanics seem pretty cool mind.
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 16, 2019, 12:56:34 PM
We need a good Falklands game that encompasses the Air/Land/Naval/Political aspects. I'm surprised no one is pursuing such a game. It would be an instant buy for me.


Wasn't that "Where There Is Discord" ?
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: mirth on May 16, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
We need a good Falklands game that encompasses the Air/Land/Naval/Political aspects. I'm surprised no one is pursuing such a game. It would be an instant buy for me.


Wasn't that "Where There Is Discord" ?

The out of print solitaire game from a defunct publisher that you can't buy for less that $150?
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: bbmike on May 16, 2019, 01:10:09 PM
Don't let that stop you! We have a "most expensive game you've bought" thread now.  :P
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: mirth on May 16, 2019, 01:12:58 PM
Yeah, I'm gonna drop $200 on a solitaire game  :D
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 16, 2019, 07:37:20 PM
I think Compass has some great products, but holy hell are they expensive.
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: Staggerwing on May 16, 2019, 07:39:51 PM
Yeah, I'm gonna drop $200 on a solitaire game  :D

That's the spirit!  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: JasonPratt on May 16, 2019, 08:22:48 PM
Yeah, I'm gonna drop $200 on a solitaire game  :D

That's the spirit!  :bigthumb:

The Paradox sales model!
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: Staggerwing on May 16, 2019, 08:32:30 PM
Yeah, I'm gonna drop $200 on a solitaire game  :D

That's the spirit!  :bigthumb:

The Paradox sales model!

That would require the dead tree version of endless DLC.

So... Solitaire ASL.
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: BanzaiCat on March 13, 2020, 01:39:57 AM
I bought this today at my FLGS. I almost bought Tank Duel but decided I wanted something a little more strategic and easier to get into. Had several people on the FB Solitaire Wargames group tell me the solo rules are crap, but a couple of folks stuck up for it. All of them said the game is perfectly great playing it two-handed.
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: mirth on March 13, 2020, 04:27:09 AM
My only surprise is that you didn't buy both games  8)
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: bob48 on March 13, 2020, 06:24:47 AM
I thought the same  ;D
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: bayonetbrant on March 13, 2020, 06:40:18 AM
My only surprise is that you didn't buy both games  8)


You can count on the fact that he bought at least one other game, just not necessarily the one he was talking about in this post
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: judgedredd on March 13, 2020, 07:24:15 AM
Let's ask

BC - what else did you buy?
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: bob48 on March 13, 2020, 07:37:11 AM
<sharp intake of breath>
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: Staggerwing on March 13, 2020, 08:00:00 AM
<leans forward>
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: bob48 on March 13, 2020, 08:03:10 AM
<falls off chair>
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: judgedredd on March 13, 2020, 10:00:44 AM
<taps fingers on desk...>
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: bob48 on March 13, 2020, 10:02:57 AM
<farts loudly and looks at the dog>
Title: Re: Compass Games Hearts and Minds
Post by: BanzaiCat on March 13, 2020, 12:49:27 PM
LOL I didn't have enough cash. I do side writing for my boss for a travel website she runs outside of work. She just headed to the Caribbean for a trip and handed me a check before she left, which I didn't expect as I hadn't written the prerequisite number of articles for her yet. But she wasn't going to be back for several weeks so she thought she'd be nice.

So I cashed that sucker and spent a decent part of it before my S.O. could get her hands on it. :)

Anyway, I went by Goodwill too and found Pandemic for $3.49, so that was my other purchase. :P

My daughter was with me. She loves FLGS's and Goodwill shopping so we spent a good part of the day yesterday hunting things. I bought her a nice set of polyhedral dice for her to use back in school in her DnD campaign.