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The Reference Desk => Organizations, Vehicles, Equipment => Topic started by: mirth on September 04, 2018, 03:34:39 PM
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Leopard 2A7 of the Royal Canadian Dragoons stationed in Petawawa, Ontario.
(https://i.redd.it/exhx9r1cp8k11.jpg)
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^awesome vid :bigthumb:
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https://twitter.com/nicholadrummond/status/1039183743729188864
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I know the people whose job it is to know
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https://twitter.com/Project1144/status/1038811850861936640
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Where have I seen that before?
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Where have I seen that before?
It does look kinda familiar...
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South African Olifant MK2 and MK1a MBTs during night-time exercises 2018
(https://i.redd.it/264iw4ilxul11.jpg)
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Churchill Toad flail tank.
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(https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/weekend-morning-awesomeness-39-photos-34-161.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=600)
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I wonder what the neighbours think of that :-)
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Anything that helps keep those pesky little panzers out of their backyards is probably ok by them.
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LOL - I hope there is a comfy chair and a table for sandwiches and whisky up in the turret - and maybe a PC for games!
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and maybe a PC for games!
The house is probably owned by the head Belarusian at WoT's parent company.
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and maybe a PC for games!
The house is probably owned by the head Belarusian at WoT's parent company.
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Olifant Mk2 MBT
(https://i.imgur.com/0UIFfX2.jpg)
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Evolved from the Centurion.
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Aye
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https://twitter.com/barefootboomer/status/1044668228155461637
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Good find :bigthumb:
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https://twitter.com/WWIIpix/status/1045019224735928320
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https://twitter.com/RedKnightHQ66/status/1047509231421853703
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https://twitter.com/JPKassell/status/1048707788766158850
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https://twitter.com/JPKassell/status/1048707788766158850
Tanknado?
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oops
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https://twitter.com/Tank_Archives/status/1049016069522903040
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Such as the JSU 152!
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https://twitter.com/WWIIpix/status/1049678798311096320
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A British Challenger 2 MBT during Exercise Sareea 3 in Oman.
(https://i.redd.it/tv8q4pv2s7r11.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/WWIIpix/status/1049678798311096320
First time I've seen a panzer with a spare turret bustle. Ad-hoc armor maybe?
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https://twitter.com/pptsapper/status/1050429328398397440
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https://twitter.com/WWIIpix/status/1049678798311096320
First time I've seen a panzer with a spare turret bustle. Ad-hoc armor maybe?
Maybe spare parts for some tank at the pointy end...
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https://twitter.com/Dubeeous/status/1053048129954725888
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Nice pic.
Some cameras (including in iPhones) allow you to shoot a 'burst' of pix that are milliseconds apart so you can choose just the right one from the results.
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A British Challenger 2 MBT during Exercise Sareea 3 in Oman.
(https://i.redd.it/tv8q4pv2s7r11.jpg)
I love the look of the Challengers - very British and heavy !
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https://twitter.com/1UKDivision/status/1053994549125767168
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(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44869164_10156632179147881_4406587169536212992_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=08a53a44e850e18089d83d4f76cabf33&oe=5C527A62)
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Ha!
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Not exactly a tank, but didn't want to start a new thread just for anti-air weapons
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/army-getting-ready-bring-back-linebacker-34537
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https://taskandpurpose.com/army-airborne-lav/
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Not exactly a tank, but didn't want to start a new thread just for anti-air weapons
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/army-getting-ready-bring-back-linebacker-34537 (https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/army-getting-ready-bring-back-linebacker-34537)
They should bring the Linebacker back. It was pretty dumb to get rid of it (along with a lot of other SHORAD).
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Not exactly a tank, but didn't want to start a new thread just for anti-air weapons
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/army-getting-ready-bring-back-linebacker-34537 (https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/army-getting-ready-bring-back-linebacker-34537)
Still, a Stryker armed with a five-kilowatt laser successfully destroyed twenty-one out of twenty-three drones in an exercise in May 2017, so laser-armed Strykers and JLTVs are a distinct possibility.
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I always liked the ADATS system. Too bad we (Canada) got rid of it - but it's days were numbered.
https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=154 (https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=154)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClnOr9T3Zm8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClnOr9T3Zm8)
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Not exactly a tank, but didn't want to start a new thread just for anti-air weapons
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/army-getting-ready-bring-back-linebacker-34537 (https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/army-getting-ready-bring-back-linebacker-34537)
They should bring the Linebacker back. It was pretty dumb to get rid of it (along with a lot of other SHORAD).
They should've just parked it all in the ARNG so you had it available if you wanted it. There's several ADA BDE's out there in the ARNG where they could go
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I always liked the ADATS system. Too bad we (Canada) got rid of it - but it's days were numbered.
https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=154 (https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=154)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClnOr9T3Zm8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClnOr9T3Zm8)
I remember first reading about ADATS back in '86 in an issue of MilTech when I lived in Germany.
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This is what happens when you let Marines write for the Army Times
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/10/30/reactivated-unit-gives-82nd-airborne-an-armored-component-that-packs-a-marine-corps-style-punch/ (https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/10/30/reactivated-unit-gives-82nd-airborne-an-armored-component-that-packs-a-marine-corps-style-punch/)
More than three decades after getting out of the armor business, soldiers with the 82nd Airborne Division have reactivated a company that will add Marine Corps armored vehicles to its formation.
Last week, the All American Division reactivated Alpha Company, 4th Battalion, 68th Armored Regiment at Fort Bragg, North Carolina.
The unit had been deactivated in 1984 after having served as the United States' only “airborne tank battalion,” according to the Fayetteville Observer.
Uh... 3-73 AR BN was active in the 82nd until 1997, and equipped with Sheridans.
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So.....fake news! >:D :whistle:
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It's too bad the Sheridan was such a dud - it had great lines ! Also looks good in 1/35 scale ;)
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Wasn't it mainly the 'Shellelagh' weapons system that let it down rather that the vehicle itself?
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I think it was both actually - too lightly armored and the funky missile.
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I think it was both actually - too lightly armored and the funky missile.
Missile system never worked as advertised, but to accommodate the missile, you needed to mount a 152mm main gun, which was a bit large for the size of the chassis
Tank had to be lighter to airdrop, which meant lighter armor. But too many planners (esp. the 82nd light-infantry-hooah-airborne-ranger-uber-alles brain trust) saw "turret + big gun + treads" and somehow came up with "just as good as any other tank" and ended up trying to use it in ways it shouldn't've been...
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I think it was both actually - too lightly armored and the funky missile.
Missile system never worked as advertised, but to accommodate the missile, you needed to mount a 152mm main gun, which was a bit large for the size of the chassis
Tank had to be lighter to airdrop, which meant lighter armor. But too many planners (esp. the 82nd light-infantry-hooah-airborne-ranger-uber-alles brain trust) saw "turret + big gun + treads" and somehow came up with "just as good as any other tank" and ended up trying to use it in ways it shouldn't've been...
Yep. Mis-use was a big problem. Treating a light tank as an MBT never works out well.
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https://twitter.com/Erikhistorian/status/1058825766459359232
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(https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/57f90d43e22255884f109e13726bcaf0.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=600)
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Must be a V-Tank
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That's really pretty sad when you think about it.
<shakes head>
NERD!
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US Marine Corps LAV-ATMs in Norway during Trident Juncture 2018
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4816/31809351358_6820e01c6e_k.jpg)
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I see the Israeli's are putting the Eitan 8X8 out on the market:
https://breakingdefense.com/2018/11/israel-rolls-out-8x8-eitan-with-eye-on-exports/?utm_campaign=Breaking%20News&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=67262246&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8VhTZgP7N5CJu0trXI7h0tQa1Zj5FLV04895mzQSJvxoKyqjfFujw5nG-xe8Mi8Lqek9ur22P4Jm2cT871mXz271SKeA&_hsmi=67262246
I suspect these will be more cost-effective than the Namer.
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https://twitter.com/TankieMike/status/1063738692559429633
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I remember think the same the first time I went to Bovington and saw them. :biggrin:
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https://twitter.com/JanesINTEL/status/1064586689992101888
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Turkey has more tanks than God!
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Where have I seen that before?
https://youtu.be/6vQpW9XRiyM?t=38s (https://youtu.be/6vQpW9XRiyM?t=38s)
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TOS-1
(https://i.redd.it/lxa7dahguvz11.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOS-1
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That thing looks like it belongs in WH40k
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TOS-1
(https://i.redd.it/lxa7dahguvz11.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOS-1
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e1/04/93/e1049352817e051212d675af36b672aa.jpg)
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/4/4e/Whirlwind008.png/revision/latest?cb=20120416222701)
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Hey, waddaya know...
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A restored and running Type 89 Yi-Go tank at Tsuchira tank museum open day, October 2007
(https://i.redd.it/ksixkcxy83121.jpg)
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That guy is having way too much fun. ;D
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He's tanking it pretty hard.
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Seventeen pounder dud in Tiger I armor.
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Blimey!
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https://twitter.com/barefootboomer/status/1069688596565815297
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https://defence-blog.com/army/bae-systems-receives-375m-contract-for-mobile-protected-firepower.html?fbclid=IwAR1zQJ0OsgqE4wxIlNWJiiLu8_o3KC0VMH9fNVIOQTdTmWg3fNqGfBhFiLw
The M8 lives on !
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https://warisboring.com/the-british-perfected-the-art-of-brewing-tea-inside-an-armored-vehicle/
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https://twitter.com/AwardsDarwin/status/1078681668410634241
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Maybe they were trying to test airdropping tanks, starting with landing on something softer than land. Possibly an early stress-test leading to the infamous A-40 glider tank?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/AntonovA40.jpg)
https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=1126
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AEF training on the Renault tank.
https://www.facebook.com/usarmoredmemory/videos/725726471113809/
At the 6:30 mark, an old friend makes an appearance.
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https://twitter.com/Spy_Stations/status/1084780965459824643
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https://twitter.com/9toed_Viking/status/1088092672714256389
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https://twitter.com/Mother_of_Tanks/status/1096047401012510720
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https://twitter.com/RedKnightHQ66/status/1097978288574812161
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https://twitter.com/RedKnightHQ66/status/1098311732387291137
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Very Nice! 'Tanks' for posting that. :bigthumb:
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Wow!
They even have a US T-95/T-28 super heavy TD and it's a pair of its removable 'dualies' outer tread assemblies. I wonder why they're not next to the tank though?
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Tank about it...
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The ass on that Patton tank reminds me of my Ex. :2thumbs:
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Baby got tank!
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click thru... many more pictures
https://twitter.com/crusaderproject/status/1098549019469479937 (https://twitter.com/crusaderproject/status/1098549019469479937)
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https://www.facebook.com/mashtabekb/videos/538004813387812/?t=307
Army training exercise sometime around 1920, probably in Florida.
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http://thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26606/picture-of-newest-m1-abrams-tank-variant-with-previously-unseen-turret-armor-emerges
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Very nice! :bigthumb:
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https://twitter.com/WWIIpix/status/1103194870200578048
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I've seen that a few times, but its still pretty shocking when you think its for real, and not a bit of Hollywood.
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Seeing the rounds on the way in and then the crew bailing is intense.
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(https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/weekend-afternoon-randomness-37-photos-13.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=600)
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(https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/weekend-afternoon-randomness-37-photos-16.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=600)
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https://twitter.com/wtfvids_/status/1107282641810669569
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I wonder how fast it was going?
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I told my wife NOT to park there! :doh:
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(https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/daily-afternoon-randomness-49-photos-25-189.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=600)
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Now all they need are the flaming war pigs.
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I wonder how fast it was going?
just eyeballing it, maybe low-to-mid 40s
tough to get something that big over 50mph; I'm speaking from experience here
and if it's combat-loaded, forget it. You'll top out around 50 if you're lucky, even with a tac idle on to rev up your RPMs.
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Interesting, thanks. I thought you would know :-)
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Interesting, thanks. I thought you would know :-)
I got a stripped-down M1A1 up to the low-60s once, but that was near-perfect conditions to do so, including knowing that the road in front of me was clear. You don't stop one of those very quickly when you're going that fast, so you have to know that the road is clear if you're going that fast.
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............Thunder Run Brant :2funny:............
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so you have to know that the road is clear if you're going that fast.
I think that clip shows that you don't necessarily have to know the road is clear
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so you have to know that the road is clear if you're going that fast.
I think that clip shows that you don't necessarily have to know the road is clear
Not a lot of abandoned sub-compacts on the range roads at Ft Hunter Liggett. I was more worried about a BFV being out there in the way.
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Not much fun running into a Bradly at that speed, or an AAV-7
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Hmm.
There may be a game in this. Perhaps adapting Trireme, for ramming ships, to something about ramming subcompacts?
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(https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/daily-afternoon-randomness-49-photos-25-189.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=600)
Image from the Great Canine - Feline War
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https://twitter.com/haycraft_travis/status/1110221554741362689
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https://twitter.com/coilercreative/status/1118522736853291008?
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https://thinpinstripedline.blogspot.com/2019/04/tanks-for-nothing-why-it-does-not.html
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150 Is a nice, round number. Nice, small, round number. :waiting:
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(http://www.prankmenot.com/images/25-04-2019/QSPrHc.png)
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"How it's Made", WW2-newsreel style:
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:bigthumb: :applause:
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(https://pics.me.me/soviet-tanks-pushing-into-germany-berlin-1945-colorized-agalu-fatties-28636413.png)
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Definitely 'Heavies' all right. :biggrin:
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https://blog.vantagepointnorth.net/2019/01/quick-guide-to-identifying-russian.html (https://blog.vantagepointnorth.net/2019/01/quick-guide-to-identifying-russian.html)
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(https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/4757910-divn3ehxsaaaum9-1535199279-728-e76a722ccc-1535637141.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=600)
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"Indy! They have a tank!"
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It looked much bigger in the movie. ??? ???
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South African Olifant MK2. The Centurion upgrade that doesn't want to die
(https://i.redd.it/r3yuce5txv231.jpg)
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Sherman tanks of the 1st Armoured Regiment (10th Armoured Cavalry Brigade, 1st Polish Armoured Division) at the start of Operation Totalize. August 8, 1944. Normandy, France.
(https://i.redd.it/4bvg9fjf8s231.jpg)
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Nice! :bigthumb:
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https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a28339049/russian-tank-transforms-into-worlds-largest-fruit-slicer/
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Japanese Type-10 Hitomaru
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/fd/a5/68fda5807572c3c802093dfad122d178.jpg)
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They've come a long way from the Chi-Ha.
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Put a tailgate on it and that thing would make a damn fine pick-up truck. :bigthumb:
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https://twitter.com/WWIIpix/status/1161670726799253504
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Damn, so much hero posing. Them german are toast.
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Is that Pitt with his head out of the turret? ::)
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https://twitter.com/MilHistNow/status/1165154270284587008
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the next day, their budget for spare parts was cut in half
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Which was a shame since the 'cars' were bought used from the Brits and all the Lucas-made wiring promptly shorted out or caught fire.
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Must've been where they got the idea for the Zamboni. :biggrin:
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Seeing this picture just brought to mind a memory. Wasn't there a big fiasco after the Liberation of paris about british trucks?
There was supposed to be a three tonner(?) with a three piston engine, that couldn't handle the load. Had to rely on american duce and a halfs and Studebakers for logisitics. Think it was a major cause of the gasolene shortages because the planned trucks couldn't hack it.
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Mark IV (Male) "Hyacinth" of H Battalion, stuck in a German trench while supporting 1st Battalion, Leicestershire Regiment near Ribecourt during the Battle of Cambrai. 20 November 1917
(https://i.redd.it/j2tcb8iopus31.jpg)
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Great picture.
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WOW! :o
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My reaction exactly!
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Mark Feldon has a lot of cool history short stories. It's worth subbing to his channel on youtube.
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Yes he does indeed.
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https://twitter.com/eFPBGLatvia/status/1184114474401312768
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Royal Thai Army VT-4 Tank
(https://i.imgur.com/xf4oSWF.jpg)
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Built in China, is it not?
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With comms gear by Huawei?
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So when Xi flips a switch, they all turn their guns in the direction of Hong Kong and begin firing? :doh:
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T-80BVM | Arctic Strategic Command, Russia
(https://i.redd.it/xf6j41e65vy31.png)
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I'm no tank designer but why would you want such a wide shot trap running all the way around the turret? It's something I've wondered about other tank designs as well. Why not slope the upper faces down a little more to narrow the gap?
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Those are ERA add-ons around the turret. I don't know the particulars, but it's designed to deflect incoming warheads away from the vehicle or break them up. There's a combination of things that go into it.
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That makes sense. Still, you'd think that if a solid round impacted below the outermost edge that the ERA blast would just deflect the round down to impact lower with a downward angle. Maybe it's designed more for HEAT?
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There's a good thread on ERA here
https://sturgeonshouse.ipbhost.com/topic/574-explosive-reactive-armor/
The most modern stuff (and that is a one of the most modern Russian kits in the pic) is intended to be effective against all types of rounds including APFDS. It's designed to warp and redirect the penetrator enough that it can't make it through the vehicle armor. Like I said, I don't know exactly how it works, but I'm guessing the Russkis know what they are doing.
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Thanks!
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No, you mean, 'Tanks' don't you? Or are they calling them, 'Putin's Uber Rides' now?
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...shut up and grab these panzerfausts....................
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Challenger 2 "Street Fighter II" in Berlin Brigade camo
(https://i.redd.it/mygjkt4qil041.jpg)
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I see it's been up-armed with the Ripper semi-autonomous anti-personal system.
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That's one mean-looking beast. The tank's not bad either. :hehe:
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A very potent anti-theft device.
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Swedish Centurion
(https://i.redd.it/x5oyhefknn141.jpg)
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Leclerc of the 2nd Armored Brigade of the French Army on maneuvers in Alsace; January 2017
(https://i.redd.it/gr1d9re6al141.jpg)
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Strv 2000, M1A1, Leo 2A4
(https://i.redd.it/u3xl6wa7mo141.jpg)
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A Soviet Valentine rearmed with a 45mm 20-K gun
(https://i.redd.it/oavzb065og141.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1158358502403923968
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Cunning mobile smoke-screen generator!
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That whole thread is awesome 😝
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1161660502084399105
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That whole thread is awesome 😝
It really is :bigthumb:
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NASCAR With tanks! :D Brilliant!
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https://twitter.com/WWIIpix/status/1202194001589346304
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That looks like Mirth's front yard.
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Mirth keeps Sov POWs in his yard? Who knew...
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They keep showing up and asking for "Wodka"
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And "Nuclear Wessels"?
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In Alameeeeeda
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I think Mirth has his own, 'private' label Vodka, "Mirth-noff". "Suitable for surviving Maine winters by drinking or starting water-resistant fires". :bigthumb:
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I think Mirth has his own, 'private' label Vodka, "Mirth-noff". "Suitable for surviving Maine winters by drinking or starting water-resistant fires". :bigthumb:
It's also an excellent industrial grade lubricant and anti-freeze.
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Also from MirthCo Industries - Nap Time!
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It's also an excellent industrial grade lubricant and anti-freeze.
there's a joke in there somewhere about needing both with some of the gals you've been known to hit on, but your current girlfriend is a pleasant and lovely person, so I'll just leave it alone :hehe:
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but your current girlfriend is a pleasant and lovely person, so I'll just leave it alone :hehe:
She'd also hunt you down and murder you.
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That's a keeper! :bigthumb:
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but your current girlfriend is a pleasant and lovely person, so I'll just leave it alone :hehe:
She'd also hunt you down and murder you.
that's not a short list, y'know
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Did mirth need Nap Time to snag her? ;)
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Did mirth need Nap Time to snag her? ;)
I had her read one of your reviews. Same effect.
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Did mirth need Nap Time to snag her? ;)
I had her read one of your reviews. Same effect.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/5VKbvrjxpVJCM/giphy.gif)
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:P
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OK, here we go - handbags at 5 paces - no scratching or gouging.
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https://twitter.com/M1A2_Kilo_Zulu/status/1202737684633927680
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Any tank that can't make-up it's mind whether to be letters or numbers isn't going to be any damned good.
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The M4A3(76) seemed to do ok for itself.
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True that along with the T-34. But other than them..... :nope: I've read the 7TP wasn't a bad tank, a copy of the British Vickers as I recall and had a good gun. But the crews were poorly trained and the Poles didn't have many of them.
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(https://www.funker530.com/wp-content/uploads/tank-cannon.jpg)
https://www.funker530.com/t-62-tank-cannon-flatbed/
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I would not like to stand behind that when it went off - the mounting looks anything but safe.
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I think if I was driving I would take a break too.
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https://watabou.itch.io/tank-doodles (https://watabou.itch.io/tank-doodles)
Doodles different tanks for you
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I would not like to stand behind that when it went off - the mounting looks anything but safe.
Come now, that looks like the finest sheet metal you could buy for your portee...
I hope for the sake of that gunner that the gun doesn't have an automatic shell casing ejector...
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Those guys make us Rednecks look like Rhodes Scholars. :worried:
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Polish tanker dresed as Santa delivering christmass gifts to children in a liberated town in Italy during WW2
(https://i.redd.it/eenmudag28341.jpg)
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Santa riding a Kangaroo!
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I guess the sleigh was being refurbished.
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That looks like it may be a M3 Stuart chassis?
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I thought the same - I suspect its the M5 recce version with the turret removed. I think the tracks give it away.
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Crab
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LOL
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And then the Mantis Shrimp arrived...
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Neat idea but looks a bit 'tippy' when fully deployed. Needs outriggers like a bucket-arm truck.
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This is really neat. Rather impractical, but fun.
Was this developed post Dunkerque? The british considered a lot of wacky answers to the situation.
There was a display at the Imperial War Museum of the Bates Bottle Thrower.
It looked like a cannon, at first glance, but was a device that threw molotov cocktails out to about a hundred yards. Worked like a slingshot with massive rubber bands to propel the coke bottles.
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I think (without checking) that it was a pre-war idea and they didn't actually see active service. It was based on the Carden-Lloyd chassis, and you can quite clearly see the Universal carrier (Bren carrier) parentage.
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This is really neat. Rather impractical, but fun.
Was this developed post Dunkerque? The british considered a lot of wacky answers to the situation.
There was a display at the Imperial War Museum of the Bates Bottle Thrower.
It looked like a cannon, at first glance, but was a device that threw molotov cocktails out to about a hundred yards. Worked like a slingshot with massive rubber bands to propel the coke bottles.
Kind of like this?
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"Fighting Girlfriend", another Mark Felton video that you East Front fans might find interesting:
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Great story. :applause:
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The pics from when my son, my dad, and I went to the Armor Museum at Ft Knox. Those of you that've seen Bayonet Jr recently can tell how long ago this was. We took a long day trip down from Columbus to Ft Knox
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15771_10102476507491055_810619196_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_eui2=AeEcv2GcNfHIoqP7K-2Qe2QhtkqYmJ-5iPDDV5TjH4N6uMW7pDdHjsIJnUAOFzHyk0vaQalt8TaRubIDI0xnTzhM6PrnfwIxe639THdQGMWjng&_nc_ohc=gIMHQgQMiTkAQllt3jHy1oeX3_ovT-3ky18WiAt2imklYVD12SvdPIpng&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=ea55359cc6a7fe56b78b3babf629e7f9&oe=5EB2CFB8)
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12208_10102476507511015_1712247232_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_eui2=AeGuyiJ1aZu4KEawo3ADJsGgNITC0kF4sdXOE3PAFVSiIJmCUZbbO6mOxXXXjTbu94pbunWJjMP82bnwRl10Fc7N7xTaSxDx7nuNwnhxftrYHg&_nc_ohc=q9QOnhm70fwAQkS63SzzCJdVnM1jwaZSL-4DBECP8vl9tdjc2Lq_CQ2lQ&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=62d2c1f87f9d3a5bbb7ee550f71ef6e3&oe=5E775F9F)
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Crimminy, that was a LONG time ago! :P
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Japanese Type 61 MBT digital camo test
(https://preview.redd.it/nbkuk0ncpj641.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4b2ff594a99be44fde77b5548df5976a306eec6)
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Charioteer and Centurion tank at display in the military museum of Vienna.
(https://i.redd.it/jl8vf8lswc641.jpg)
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T-34 vs Pershing
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2014/10/13/korean-war-battles-the-t-34-and-american-m-26-pershing-at-obong-ni/
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Excellent - I'd not read about that before :bigthumb:
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Excellent - I'd not read about that before :bigthumb:
Me neither which kinda surprised me. I thought I was fairly well read on the Korean War.
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https://twitter.com/WWIIpix/status/1211299608342781952
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https://twitter.com/WWIIpix/status/1211678782085648385
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Good picture :bigthumb:
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Love the Firefly
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Yeah - pity they could only produce enough 17pdrs for one per troop.
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https://twitter.com/Cobra_NTC/status/1212805956960174081
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Flakpanzer IV "Wirbelwind"
(https://i.redd.it/j9l6zmhl3f841.jpg)
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^The US Army's equivalent, an M3 halftrack with quad 50 cals, would prove very useful in Korea in breaking up human wave attacks.
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ZSU-23-4 providing air cover for column of T-55s
(https://i.redd.it/3er46c3lup841.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/rgpoulussen/status/1213553423813169156
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Despite that, the alliance with Russia survived. :hehe:
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A West German Leopard 1 rolls past Dutch soldiers during an exercise, 9 August 1968
(https://i.redd.it/pe2v4xy1ls941.jpg)
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I think they're Fathers did that same exercise back in 1940. :hehe:
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https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/south-koreas-k2-black-panther-joining-nato-russia-wont-it-117206
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https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/south-koreas-k2-black-panther-joining-nato-russia-wont-it-117206 (https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/south-koreas-k2-black-panther-joining-nato-russia-wont-it-117206)
Whoa. An interesting and fairly well written article from National Interest :o
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A West German Leopard 1 rolls past Dutch soldiers during an exercise, 9 August 1968
(https://i.redd.it/pe2v4xy1ls941.jpg)
I'll bet that frightened the local populace! :2funny:
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Secret Dutch anti-tank dust projector in action.
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With highly trained Specialist operating it. :hehe:
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https://twitter.com/WWIIpix/status/1222141055031828480
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That had to be pretty damned impressive even if it was knocked out. Most of those guys' heads don't but barely reach the turret ring.
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KV-2 was an early war monster.
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Tiger Tank number 131...
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The Bovington Tiger!
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She's a beauty of a Beast isn't she? :dreamer:
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I have always thought that the Tiger I actually is the most tanky looking tank of all time. Its the very essence of tank.
Good job for us that, when all is said and done, it was a failure.
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Except for being undergunned, the Churchill tank is visually spectacular.
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https://twitter.com/Erikhistorian/status/1223768467708547072
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https://mobile.twitter.com/strategic_tank/status/1223782886551109633
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https://www.dvidshub.net/audio/62685/m1a2-abrams-tank-commander-recounts-battle-training-during-combined-resolve-xiii
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T31 Demolition Tank, a short lived engineering vehicle armed with twin 7.2 inch (183mm) revolving rocket launchers and a 105mm gun. Was quickly discarded due to repeated issues with the rocket autoloaders.
(https://i.redd.it/293e5sg065f41.png)
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Looks like it was built by Da Orks
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It didn't need to shoot. Just the look would've scared the enemy to death alone. :o
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Looks like it was built by Da Orks
...red ones go fasta!
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T31 Demolition Tank, a short lived engineering vehicle armed with twin 7.2 inch (183mm) revolving rocket launchers and a 105mm gun. Was quickly discarded due to repeated issues with the rocket autoloaders.
that's too bad. the world needs more gatling-rocket-launchers
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fliegerfaust
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fliegerfaust (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fliegerfaust)
I said "more" - implying that what's out there already isn't enough ;D
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You know what's funny? I'd never heard of a 'Fliegerfaust' before! Very strange what I keep learning about a conflict I thought I knew everything about.
Guess the only way you know everything is by admitting you know nothing. (Asian twang-twang music revelation)
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I must admit, its a new one on me too.
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Me either. You sure this isn't some kind of BC-Early-April-Fool's-Day thing? :hehe:
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Could be...its the sort of dirty trick he'd pull.
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https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/armor-units-outperform-airborne-air-force-and-navy-in-deterring-aggression-overseas-report-says-1.617766
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Well DUH… ::)
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Who would have guessed.
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https://twitter.com/USArmyCMH/status/1227588201818312705
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Interesting, although I had read about these guys before.
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https://twitter.com/rgpoulussen/status/1228883470946054145
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https://twitter.com/rgpoulussen/status/1229304110211571714
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https://twitter.com/rgpoulussen/status/1229304613427388416
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Abandoned Soviet T-72’s- Ukraine
(https://i.redd.it/8p3s46bbfah41.jpg)
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A Japanese Type 97 Shinhoto Chi-Ha negotiates difficult terrain
(https://i.redd.it/2glinp78zdh41.png)
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Abandoned Soviet T-72’s- Ukraine
(https://i.redd.it/8p3s46bbfah41.jpg)
Seems like they could clean a few of those up and put them to use these days
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Seems like they should have, after Putin's aggression.
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Maybe those need Russian made parts? Some of that ERA might be salvageable for use on operational Ukrainian tanks.
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Prague spring, 1968
(https://i.redd.it/pphge74jq2i41.jpg)
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Finnish Charioteer
(https://i.redd.it/hnla5goqx3i41.jpg)
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Conceptual future MBT that appeared in a 1970s issue of "ARMOR"
(https://i.redd.it/alie4k7xr0i41.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/TankPorn/status/891369327567536129
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Fv4005
(https://i.redd.it/wibf4vwm5xh41.jpg)
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Finnish Charioteer
(https://i.redd.it/hnla5goqx3i41.jpg)
what year would that have been?
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It actually served from the early 1950's to 1980 ish, but I'm not sure how long the Finn's had it. I think it was armed with the 20 pdr that the first Centurions were equipped with.
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Finnish Army bought 38 "Charioteer Mk VII Model B" by 1960, and they remained in use until 1979. The tanks were stored until 2007 when they were auctioned off.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charioteer_(tank)#Operators
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There ya go, then. :bigthumb:
There is one at Bovington, but I'm not sure if it was there last time I visited, which is, admittedly, a long time ago.
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It's kind of a 'Tankenstein', with bits of different British late-and-post-WW2 tanks. They must've got the idea from the Israelis...
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Good point, like the 'Super Sherman' or the Sherman with the AMX 13 oscillating turret.
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https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/32339/crazy-video-out-of-syria-shows-an-armored-personnel-carrier-brawling-with-a-t-72-tank
https://twitter.com/Abdurahmanhrk/status/1232037294124695553
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Damn!
If you look closely you can see the additional tracks that the APC crew's big armor-plated ballsacks are leaving in the desert floor...
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"Two tanks enter. One tank leaves". :hehe:
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https://twitter.com/jgb00m/status/1232852933919879168
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Pussy Panzer Division? :whistle:
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Panther? Tiger? lynx? Tabby?
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'Felix', mark something-or-other...
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Can you see any kind of organized formation made up of cats? :o
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The chaos and unpredictability alone could be a winner.
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Pussy Panzer Division? :whistle:
I think Sir Slash just singlehandedly created an entirely new anime/furry fetish right there.
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At least we know who to blame....................
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Doesn't Sir Slash create most of the new anime/furry fetishes? :whistle:
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I am willing to bet he had a hand in this
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That was just stupidly entertaining. :bigthumb:
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That was just stupidly entertaining. :bigthumb:
Yes, sadly, it was ;D
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EDIT: Wrong thread...
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I recall meeting the creator of that animation. He was at one of the trade shows I worked for Matrix back in the mid-2000s, in the Matrix booth, selling DVDs of that stuff. I remember he gave me one but don't recall what happened to it - I haven't seen the DVD in ages and didn't think once about this until now, LOL.
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I have it on good authority that The Foxx and Wily E. Coyote were related.
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I can remember having 1/48 scale kit of one, years ago.
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I can remember having 1/48 scale kit of one, years ago.
They have one displayed at the USMC museum. I saw it when I visited last Fall. Strange looking thing, and pretty small.
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Some fellows who were in Hue during Tet said that Ontos was very useful.
It's small size worked well in the confined spaces, and the recoilless rifles worked well.
Think a big problem was snipers.
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Yes, I remember reading stuff like that. The fact that a crewman needed to be exposed in order to reload. I guess the sensible action was to withdraw to cover in order to reload.
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Some fellows who were in Hue during Tet said that Ontos was very useful.
It's small size worked well in the confined spaces, and the recoilless rifles worked well.
Think a big problem was snipers.
IIRC, there was some kind of canister or beehive round made available, almost as an afterthought, for the 106 RR. It turned out to be quite popular in the end.
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This is Kieran posing with that Ontos at the Marine corps museum in Quantico
those of you that have seen him recently can tell how old this picture is
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:bigthumb:
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https://taskandpurpose.com/military-tech/army-mobile-protected-firepower-general-dynamics-submission
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Marked for later viewing.
Moran (aka 'The Chieftain') is one of my favorite Youtubers, and on my patron list.
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Me want!
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That would keep the damned ducks off the front lawn for sure. :bigthumb:
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The company that make them, Mark I Tanks, here in the UK, do quite a range of vehicles in different scales. They are mostly metal construction and feature thinks like digitised sound and smoke synced to the motor speed, also an option for firing BB and anamatronic figures.
The 1/4 scale Tiger II weighs in at around 250 kgs and will all the extra's and customised finish will set you back around £8k
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PT-76 tanks swim along a Whiskey class SSK, Soviet naval exercises 1981.
(https://i.redd.it/logwfbbd5o051.jpg)
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Bob, those tanks would make me stop drinking in a hurry if I saw one on the way home one night. :notme:
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Very expensive toys indeed.
If you stopped drinking and saved the money, you could buy one in a few years months weeks days.
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They just need a Pug riding on top. :applause:
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Wheeeee - bump - ouch.
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https://twitter.com/WarHistoryOL/status/1266216321831878659
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The Pershing looks slightly Leman Russ-ish from that angle.
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ROFL!
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https://twitter.com/ChallengerWg/status/1267823013262581778
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Incredible!
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZmN480U4AAFVId?format=jpg&name=small)
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LOL
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(https://media.tenor.com/images/16e5a9abbe94f400aecf9f7c1170c947/tenor.gif)
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:ROFL:
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https://twitter.com/balt_security/status/1269330524771954688
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbzLwGyWkAAC4S2?format=jpg&name=medium)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EccykniXsAAlQpl?format=jpg&name=medium)
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:ROFL:
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:2funny: :ROFL:
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ec1ueB7X0AI0Zvf?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ec1ueB8XoAEVKdU?format=jpg&name=large)
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The, 'extensible' periscope is a brilliant addition! :applause:
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The running gear looks to be a particular weak point.
Design REJECTED!
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It needs portholes.
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And dongles.
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The, 'extensible' periscope is a brilliant addition! :applause:
lets you stay turret-down while scanning for targets, then uncover long enough to shoot before returning to cover.
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That's good, because I'd stay in cover a lot if I was in that thing. :hehe:
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Jet engines on a tank, used to fight oil/gas fires from a distance
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What a good idea.
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Don't the Russians also have something like that to quickly clear snow from runways?
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......without actually melting the runways ;D
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https://twitter.com/Blue_Tweezers/status/1284761005030019072
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Not seen that footage before - excellent!
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https://twitter.com/TankMuseum/status/1286275368114982912
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and gun tube rotated to the rear so it's no damaged in any detonations....
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Or to fire at Amerikanski behind them.
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They were also great for making really large pizzas. :bigthumb:
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Or tenderize a very large cut of cheap meat.
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Or for Dwarf teams to steamroller the other team
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Or for the Tampa Bay Buccs to FINALLY get to an opposing Quarterback. :waah:
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Or for Dwarf teams to steamroller the other team
I had a buddy that had the figure for that when we played the board game version of BB - we used to dread the damn thing. That and 'Bomber Dribblesnot'.
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https://twitter.com/TankieMike/status/1288562059614003207
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Smug Mode.
Seen the Tiger I Tiger II and Jagd Tiger at Bovington (not recently, admittedly). Tiger '131' was not in running order then, mind you.
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That's a valid reason to be smug. :bigthumb:
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JD has been there more recently and may have seem Tiger 131 running.
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https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/35198/the-last-tank-has-left-marine-corps-base-29-palms-soon-the-entire-service
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Damn. Didn't know that. :o I bet Gunney Ermey's about to crawl out of his grave right now.
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JD has been there more recently and may have seem Tiger 131 running.
I have indeed - it was truly a sight and sound to behold.
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And the UK Gov are now hinting that the British Army may have to do without tanks in the future.
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https://twitter.com/WWIIpix/status/1305109987186872321
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at the 1:17 mark the camera pans up to the cathedral spires.
I've stood in pretty much that exact same place, several times over the years.
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Whoever was driving the car through the gunfire was equal parts brave and stupid. :idiot2:
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Just a quick heads-up for anyone interested- another issue of the Tank Encyclopedia Magazine has been released. Interesting reading and the price is right ;-)
https://payhip.com/b/GtOc (https://payhip.com/b/GtOc)
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Watch them loading ammo - those Shillelagh rounds look massive.
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Always loved the look of the Sheridan - too bad it didn't work out well. Tamiya has a 1/16 RC model - looks excellent - about 15K Canadian.
https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/116-tank/rc-us-m551-sheridan/ (https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/116-tank/rc-us-m551-sheridan/)
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That looks superb - not exactly cheap though ;D
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Be great for engaging the neighbours small dogs ;)
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https://twitter.com/Erikhistorian/status/1322287939364204545
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Nice! :bigthumb:
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Ok, this is damned awesome
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Excellent!
I've seen another one where they find a ship load of Sherman's
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This should be enough to keep you busy for a day or two (if you can afford the price tag that is)
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That thing is nearly as big as the Datsun B210 hatchback I drove back in 1982!
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...and almost costs as much ;D
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Back then I paid about $400 so If you don't adjust for inflation, the model actually costs more!
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Good news - it's on sale....
https://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/dragon-16-british-sherman-m4a3-75w/
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I would love to do a VC Firefly in that scale :-)
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I would love to do a VC Firefly in that scale :-)
Was the M4A3 used in any of the Firefly variants? f so, you could probably mod the kit with a few changes to the turret and gun, along with some other odds and ends. A large 3D printer or maybe a vacuforming set up could help with the larger mod pieces.
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Yes, that may well have been the case, and I have seen a customized version of the kit to make it a Firefly. There is a vid on youtube somewhere.
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OK, that is f'n' cool as hell
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here's another vid; I suspect this is not a cheap activity!
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That looks like so much fun!
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Its £140 for 2 hours, but they do other activities as well as the tanks.
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https://thelincolnite.co.uk/2021/04/lincolnshire-farmer-digs-up-tank-which-sank-70-years-ago/?
Let's see. WWII amphibious tank.
Buried under tons of clay.
In england.
Hmmm, Bawb?
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First, its an LVT and not a tank, and second, its not in my neck of the woods.
The area was used a lot for practising amphibious landings if I recall correctly.
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https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a36651911/british-army-new-armored-vehicle-making-soldiers-sick/
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DAMN! :o
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Great thread to click thru and read
https://twitter.com/SeaSpitfires/status/1419601717562421248
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https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a36651911/british-army-new-armored-vehicle-making-soldiers-sick/
I read this in the article:
The Ajax also can’t back up over obstacles that are 20 centimeters (7.87 inches) high, and the vehicle has suspension problems that prevent the new 40-millimeter gun from firing on the move. Because of these problems and more, the British Army has limited soldiers to spending just 105 minutes inside the vehicle at a time and restricted the vehicle to driving at just 20 miles per hour.
and wondered how in the world this vehicle was ever accepted as something the British army would want, until I read further and saw adding extra armor to the vehicle might be the reason for all these problems. Not being able to fire on the move seems like a big problem in modern warfare.
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https://www.theshermantank.com/lee-and-grant-tanks/soviet-shermans-the-soviet-union-used-and-liked-the-sherman/
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h/t Hethwill
https://twitter.com/BattleguideVT/status/1498266910554796032
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Its actually an M7.
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Its actually an M7.
^ What he said
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The nerd is strong in you, my sons. :nerd:
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Nerd flag proudly flying: A self propelled howitzer is not a tank. :)
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Stagger and I stand together in this, proudly waving our 'NERD' banner.
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(http://www.armchairdragoons.com/gifs/nerd.gif)
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Takes one to know one ;)
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https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1502758799861497863
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... oopsie
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https://news.yahoo.com/us-army-award-production-contract-202238056.html
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lol
some bad language in this
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had a facebook discussion about tank rates of fire and I snagged my part of it in case any of y'all were interested
So this is going to take a second, but bear with me. There's 2 facets that affect the 'rate of fire' for an M1: the way you calculate the firing times on the range, and where the ammo is stored in the tank
Reload times, and range shenanigans
There is a standard published in the tank crew gunnery skills test that you have to be able to reload the main gun in under 6 seconds, or we don't even let you on the range. (caveat: it was 6 seconds when last I was on an M1, which was over 10 years ago; it could've changed, but it's still going to be pretty low). So at a minimum, from the time the gun recoils, and ejects the aft-cap of the previous round, you have 6 seconds trigger the knee switch on the ammo door, pull out your next round, get it into the gun, hit the safety rod, and announce "UP!" that the round is ready to fire (and make sure you're out of the way of the upcoming recoil, too). There are guys that'll do it in 3 seconds, consistently.
Now, that's a test in a stationary tank in a controlled environment. What about the range?
There are gunnery engagements when you're on a scored tank range where you'll get 2 or 3 different targets to shoot, and your score depends on how quickly you knock them all down. Remember those 3-6 second reload times? They'll consistently hit targets 3-4 seconds apart. In fact, you'll have some crews hitting targets 1-2 seconds apart. Some of that is training, and some of it is gamesmanship.
When you fire the main gun, you kick up a lot of dust. That dust will obscure the gunner's optical sights (tho not usually the thermals). When your sights are obscured, you call out "OBSCURATION" to let the tank commander know you can't see. This is very important in a battle b/c they're not necessarily using the same sights inside the tank (they can but often don't). The TC will help reorient the gun, and when the gunner finds the next target, called "IDENTIFIED" and the battle drill continues. The gamesmanship is this: when the gunner calls "OBSCURATION" the time between targets stops on the scorecard in the tower at the range. Once you identify the net target, the time starts again. A clever gunner will call "OBSCURATION" no matter what, while looking for the next target, so once it's identified and the time starts, the main gun is already reloaded and everyone's ready to shoot, and that's often 1-2 seconds between targets.
So they are rarely so legitimately fast that they are actually hitting targets in under 2 seconds. But they're *required* to be fast enough to be reloaded in under 6 seconds, and after that it's up to the TC/gunner to find the target to shoot.
Ammo storage
Officially, the M1A1-series holds 40 rounds of 120mm ammo. But that doesn't mean you have 40 rounds to shoot. There are 3 separate racks of ammo in the tank: 2 in the turret and one in the hull.
The "ready" rack is right behind the loader, has a door with the knee switch, and is where he pulls ammo from during the engagement. Depending on your M1 model, there's either 17 or 18 rounds in here, but there's 2 of them in the top corner that are a son of an unholy bitch to get to.
The "semi-ready" rack is behind the tank commander. These are in the turret, but not where the loader can access during a fight b/c there's a guy in the way. During a lull in the fight, you transfer ammo from the semi-ready rack to the ready rack for the loader to replenish. A good crew can move 8-10 rounds in under 5 minutes.
The rest of the ammo is stored down in the hull, where you have to spin the turret to a certain angle, and point the gun a certain way so the breech isn't in your way, and pull those rounds out of the hull storage. It sucks as much as it sounds. Even an awesome crew takes at least 10 minutes to get those out and into the loader's ready rack.
So all of that is to say that just b/c you hear that an Abrams "rate of fire" is ____ don't put too much stock into it. It depends on how you're calculating time between shots (are you breaking range ties for obscuration? counting target acquisition time?) It depends on how many rounds you're trying to fire before having to replenish the ready rack. And it (as always) depends on how good your crew is.
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I did always wonder how they got 40 rounds into that wee bit of the turret
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Yeah, that is very interesting.
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Clearly, somebody needs to take some lessons on rapid fire from the Royal Navy.
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I don't think that the RN has used tanks since WW1.
The first tanks were known as 'HM Land Ships' and were crewed by the RN. But you knew that, didn't you? ;D
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Those are Chieftain MBT's, so that film is a bit old now.
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Hoi y`all and here we have the newest/latest/modernistic German 'Tank'! ""KF-51"" (https://news.yahoo.com/germany-badass-tank-could-outmatch-161600880.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark)
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/9M2GqlV.hE65svgtuVznxQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTM1MztjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/pdt9PhWPy0jDg7sbY3UGbA--~B/aD01MTI7dz0xMDI0O2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/https://media.zenfs.com/en/popular_mechanics_642/6d15b6033b4290ad69aa711c3d357fc2)
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As noted in today's Tuesday Newsday!
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Looks like a bit of a shot trap between the hull front and the turret
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As noted in today's Tuesday Newsday!
ALSO, for those of US 'Artillery Cannoneers'..."French" 'Caesar' 155mm 'Tubester' "Gunbunnies" 'gosh-gasp' gutteringly gnat-urally, gnu-know eh?
(https://sites.breakingmedia.com/uploads/sites/3/2022/06/220614_mackenzie_caesar_artillery-e1655239211798.jpg)
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Very cool and worth watching :applause:
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The Beast was a good film I thought too.
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Interesting
At 5:40 he's talking about whether the commander's head should be in or out - and he says western school of thought is that it should be out because what you don't see kills you. They've clearly not played Combat Mission!! :silly:
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IIRC, the IDF was big on having the tank commander keeping his head up- a fine balance between engagement-winning situational awareness and increased TC turnover.
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worth clicking thru to see the whole en-chat-lada
https://twitter.com/waitmanb/status/1564220625429970945
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Whoa.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbU48WXXwAE70Sa?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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I guess the guy doesn't like to discuss, 'Performance Issues'. Wonder why? :dunno:
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*Sigh* It can indeed be difficult to find a soul mate who can be proficient with one's main gun...
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Yes, Rifled or Smooth-Bore can be such divisive issue. Particularly if one's not aware of what you're getting until hot action begins. :biggrin:
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Admiral Dan Gallery, who captured U505, was known for his quirky sense of humor.
He once posted a notice on a ship that was going to cross the equator.
The Coriolis effect is the known spin of objects away from the equator. It is theorized that a small stream of fluid will demonstrate this. It is highly recommended that the crew test tbis. North of the equator, there will be a clockwise twist. South there will be a counter clockwise twist. At the equator there will be no twist. Please report any findings.
The ships Water King was furious about the water usage.
Among the responses were: twist of the stream is influenced by twisting the instrument.
Twist of t he stream is controlled by the instruments rifling.
Smooth bore, no twist.
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What about the, uhmm, instrument's inherent laminar flow?
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I could see a problem with Premature Discharge of the weapon. Not mine of course! No. Never. Not even once. :whistle:
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Looks like fun. Especially when nobody's shooting back.
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How many 'bizarre' vehicles will you "espy"-?
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Not exactly tanks, but still entertaining