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Reply #1110 on: March 12, 2020, 04:12:51 PM
The Italians sure did build em pretty.

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Reply #1111 on: March 12, 2020, 04:43:11 PM
That was back when a BB was a BB! Julius would've been proud.

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Reply #1112 on: March 12, 2020, 06:15:46 PM

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Reply #1113 on: March 12, 2020, 06:38:27 PM
Why do those Italian BBs all seem to be turning their backs on us?

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Reply #1114 on: March 12, 2020, 11:04:41 PM
That's the same view the Brits had of them in Med in 1940.  :hehe:

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Reply #1115 on: March 13, 2020, 06:31:50 AM
In many ways, the Italians get a lot of bad press from WW2. Its true that much of the army was poorly led, trained and equiped, but even Rommel thought that the armoured formations were quite good even though the tanks were rubbish.

The air force seems to have had more elan, and some quite good aircraft, and the navy, in general, seems to have been very modern and had good moral.

It would appear that bad leadership was responsible for much of the poor performance, and especially in the army, a lot of officers treatment of the troops was indifferent to say the least.

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Reply #1116 on: March 13, 2020, 06:42:39 AM
The Royal Navy was initially very concerned about the Regia Marina and rightfully so. The Italians had some excellent modern ships.

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Reply #1117 on: March 13, 2020, 08:20:17 AM
A really fun hypothetical scenario would have been if the Itslian battle fleet attempted to attack the Pedestal convoy going to Malta.
They had two Roma BBs plus supporting cruisers and destroyers.
The cover force for the convoy was Nelson and Rodney with cruisers and destroyers.
One source identifies it as Force Z.
Rather surprising that the Brits would use that designator, considering it's association with Prince of Wales and Repulse.

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Reply #1118 on: April 03, 2020, 08:17:34 AM

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Reply #1119 on: April 03, 2020, 08:29:29 AM
Venezuela navy vessel sinks after 'ramming cruise ship'

 :ROFL:

Yeah, I saw that.  The cruise ship was pretty solid because it was built to go into icy waters.


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Reply #1120 on: April 03, 2020, 08:31:47 AM
Venezuela navy vessel sinks after 'ramming cruise ship'

 :ROFL:


A friend of mine in the travel biz was talking about this. Below the waterline, many cruise ships, especially the ones that sail near the poles, are way more armored below the waterline than most warships bc of icebergs. Most of those cruise ships would withstand a torpedo hit better than a lot of smaller warships.
I had no idea, but it kind of makes sense,
You also wonder why a Venezuelan warship is trying to ram a cruise ship, eh?

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Reply #1121 on: April 03, 2020, 09:06:41 AM
You also wonder why a Venezuelan warship is trying to ram a cruise ship, eh?

Probably trying to seize it and 'ransom' it back to the owners.

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Reply #1122 on: April 03, 2020, 09:47:11 AM
I did a tour of a Carnival cruise ship once and remember them mentioning something about the hull's strength. I didn't know it was that strong though, nor remember them saying that, though I can't imagine that would be a funny thing to say on a tour ("hey, our ships can take a torpedo hit!" *crickets*).

I was surprised last night to learn there are many cruise ships 'indefinitely' out there that have nowhere to go and there's upwards of 2,000 U.S. citizens just vibin' on them right now. What a vacation that turned out to be for them...I can't imagine.

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Reply #1123 on: April 03, 2020, 01:59:10 PM
I can imagine that would get old pretty quick.

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Reply #1124 on: April 03, 2020, 03:13:32 PM
They should have packed a copy of Agricola.  :whistle:

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