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Title: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 04, 2018, 03:31:07 PM
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HMS Queen Elizabeth seen from the cockpit of HMS Monmouth's Wildcat helicopter

(https://i.imgur.com/Y2iTJA5.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 04, 2018, 03:31:44 PM
https://thediplomat.com/2018/09/japans-new-guided-missile-destroyer-to-be-fitted-with-sm-6-interceptor-missile/
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Post by: mirth on September 04, 2018, 03:32:37 PM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1037060284127633408
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Post by: mirth on September 04, 2018, 03:42:33 PM
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Belgian special forces disembark from a Norwegian Ula-class submarine

(https://i.imgur.com/r52o4Ek.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 04, 2018, 03:47:43 PM
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German Type XVIIB Submarine is lifted from the water by a large floating crane, at Bremerhaven, Germany, August 11, 1945.

(https://i.imgur.com/fu2zI83.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 04, 2018, 03:53:21 PM
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Japanese battlecruiser Hiei, guns trained to port and elevated; Sasebo, Japan, June 1926

(https://i.redd.it/odt33hc7i3k11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 06, 2018, 12:09:00 PM
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Royal Navy Type 45 Destroyers HMS Daring (D32) & HMS Diamond (D34) & RFA Mounts Bay at HM Naval Base, Gibraltar

(https://i.imgur.com/NngBe1G.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 06, 2018, 12:10:31 PM
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Orizzonte class destroyer Andrea Doria (D553) of the Italian Navy

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5614/15586846519_7c77fa51b7_o.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 06, 2018, 12:23:50 PM
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Japanese aircraft carrier Ryūjō during sea trials in the Inland Sea, September 6, 1934

(https://i.imgur.com/bTFybj6.jpg)


https://imgur.com/a/moVk6T4
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Post by: mirth on September 06, 2018, 12:51:50 PM
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Fleet review off New York, 31 May 1934. Battleship closest to camera is USS New York (BB-34)

(https://i.redd.it/10usfcfkbgk11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 06, 2018, 12:57:10 PM
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The Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force destroyer JS Kurama (DDH 144), left, leads the Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyers USS Gridley (DDG 101) and USS Stockdale (DDG 106) during a passing exercise

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5244/5348752595_3874e6c660_o.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 06, 2018, 07:47:02 PM
https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1037842546137812992
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Post by: mirth on September 07, 2018, 10:48:34 AM
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Astute class submarine HMS Ambush

(https://i.imgur.com/uVo5x1e.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 07, 2018, 11:13:41 AM
https://twitter.com/RoyalNavy/status/1037739712017047553
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Post by: mirth on September 09, 2018, 11:47:24 AM
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Ammiragli class destroyer Francesco Mimbelli (D561) of the talian Navy, at dusk

(http://www.marina.difesa.it/sites/AMC1/SiteCollectionImages/55a4d190-b578-4f2f-bc53-a05cadbdb3a7/0fc38404-0180-4aac-ab6e-393d49fb6b97DSC_1370.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on September 10, 2018, 09:39:33 AM
Good selection there, Mirthie..............if I didn't know better, I'd say you've been saving 'em up :-)
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Post by: mirth on September 10, 2018, 01:09:29 PM
Good selection there, Mirthie..............if I didn't know better, I'd say you've been saving 'em up :-)
:bigthumb:
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Post by: mirth on September 10, 2018, 01:22:19 PM
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Italian AVV7 return to the LPD San Giorgio (L9892)


(http://www.marina.difesa.it/sites/AMC1/SiteCollectionImages/931c4be5-6f74-45a9-a19a-a0ca1025b96c/10ea3252-ab9d-4f10-96ac-f0474a681a4cgallery%204.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on September 10, 2018, 01:24:15 PM
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Post by: mirth on September 10, 2018, 01:39:09 PM
I guess the Spanish are going to continue operating Harriers until at least 2025.
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Post by: mirth on September 10, 2018, 01:50:42 PM
https://twitter.com/thewarzonewire/status/1039208311353032705
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Post by: bob48 on September 10, 2018, 03:07:14 PM
I guess the Spanish are going to continue operating Harriers until at least 2025.

It would seem so.
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Post by: mirth on September 10, 2018, 03:33:24 PM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1039234570816823296
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Post by: mirth on September 10, 2018, 03:57:41 PM
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HMS Trenchant (S 91) surfaces in the Beaufort Sea during Ice Exercise (ICEX) 2018

(http://navylive.dodlive.mil/files/2018/03/180311-N-LY160-399.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 10, 2018, 03:58:30 PM
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Battlecuiser HMS Renown with aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal and cruiser HMS Sheffield (C24) as part of Force H

(https://i.redd.it/777u1ymtwfl11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 10, 2018, 03:59:07 PM
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Russian battleship Oryol after the Battle of Tsushima, 1905

(https://i.redd.it/bgiskinxlel11.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on September 10, 2018, 04:18:56 PM
That is a great picture - I've not seen that one before!
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Post by: mirth on September 10, 2018, 08:33:56 PM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1039310054946689024
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Post by: mirth on September 10, 2018, 09:40:05 PM
https://twitter.com/CcibChris/status/1039205030019178497
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Post by: mirth on September 11, 2018, 12:03:32 PM
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Personnel transfer from USS Missouri to USS Iowa, unknown location and date

(https://i.redd.it/bdlm330noll11.jpg)
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Post by: panzerde on September 11, 2018, 12:47:15 PM
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Russian battleship Oryol after the Battle of Tsushima, 1905

(https://i.redd.it/bgiskinxlel11.jpg)

Pretty sure that if that's after Tsushima that ship is no longer a Russian battleship.  It's now the Iwami  ;)
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Post by: mirth on September 11, 2018, 12:52:06 PM
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Russian battleship Oryol after the Battle of Tsushima, 1905

(https://i.redd.it/bgiskinxlel11.jpg)

Pretty sure that if that's after Tsushima that ship is no longer a {i]Russian battleship.  It's now the Iwami  ;)
you are correct, sir.
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Post by: Staggerwing on September 11, 2018, 08:19:41 PM
I guess the Spanish are going to continue operating Harriers until at least 2025.

It would seem so.

If it ain't broke...
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Post by: mirth on September 12, 2018, 09:10:50 AM
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HMAS Sydney (A214), converted to troop transport, on her way to Vung Tau, Vietnam in June 1965, escorted by HMAS Duchess (D154) and HMAS Supply (AO 195)

(https://i.redd.it/t49vyb5cksl11.jpg)


http://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-sydney-iii-part-2
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Post by: mirth on September 12, 2018, 12:39:34 PM
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HMS Nelson seen in front of some R-class battleships, with a Blackburn Shark Seaplane flying overhead.

(https://i.redd.it/rrmvnir2vtl11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 12, 2018, 12:42:14 PM
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Japan's new Aegis destroyers - the Maya Class. Pictured is the 1st of a 2 ship class.

(https://i.redd.it/vfx0in7d6tl11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 12, 2018, 12:43:15 PM
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Crew on deck of HMAS Ovens, one of six Oberon Class diesel electric patrol submarines built for the Royal Australian Navy.


(https://i.redd.it/5eij9g6butl11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 12, 2018, 12:47:00 PM
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Norfolk Navy Base in 1941 shows a Grumman J2F Duck is being hoisted and two F4F Wildcats waiting to be hoisted aboard the Ranger (CV-4). Across the pier is the Wyoming (AG-17)

(https://i.imgur.com/TD3t8pM.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 12, 2018, 12:48:25 PM
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USS Indiana (BB-58) under construction at Newport News Shipbuilding, 1941

(https://i.redd.it/jtjdituwkml11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 12, 2018, 12:49:47 PM
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Japanese Fubuki-class destroyers of the Third Torpedo Squadron sailing in Tokyo Bay, September 11, 1931


(https://i.redd.it/bb9gx004cnl11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 12, 2018, 04:52:39 PM
https://twitter.com/thewarzonewire/status/1039979055972401153
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Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 08:31:36 AM
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Valiant shield 2014. 4 US Navy Ticonderoga class cruisers

(https://i.redd.it/h2vmtcsmpwl11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 09:49:35 AM
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Ram ship USS Katahdin (so called harbor-defense ram) in the forefront and armored cruisers USS Minneapolis and USS Columbia in the background. League Island Navy Yard, Philadelphia, 1908.

(https://i.redd.it/zn46a5ol30m11.jpg)
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Post by: Barthheart on September 13, 2018, 09:51:42 AM
"Ram ship" ?   ???
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Post by: bob48 on September 13, 2018, 09:57:02 AM
But you could only use them in USB ports.
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Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 09:57:33 AM
But you could only use them in USB ports.
clever  :2funny:
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Post by: bob48 on September 13, 2018, 09:59:42 AM
I surprise myself sometimes :-))
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Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 11:54:28 AM
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The Gemini 3 spacecraft alongside USS Intrepid (CV-11), 23 March 1965

(https://i.imgur.com/BiAiVI0.jpg)
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Post by: Barthheart on September 13, 2018, 11:56:11 AM
That's cool... that was 2 days before I was born.
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Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 11:59:12 AM
^yer old
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Post by: Barthheart on September 13, 2018, 12:00:34 PM
Yer catching up.... :2funny:
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Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 12:01:35 PM
that's not funny
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Post by: Barthheart on September 13, 2018, 12:03:30 PM
But it is... 'cause it's true.  :peace:
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Post by: bob48 on September 13, 2018, 01:33:00 PM
Will you kids stop bickering!
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Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 03:01:11 PM
Sorry, pops!
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Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 03:02:13 PM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1040314324701642752
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Post by: Staggerwing on September 13, 2018, 06:22:09 PM
"Ram ship" ?   ???

HMS Thunderchild was also a Ram ship.


(https://media.moddb.com/cache/images/groups/1/3/2103/thumb_620x2000/Thunder_Child.jpg)
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Post by: bbmike on September 13, 2018, 06:28:25 PM
I believe a ship must have more than 16GB of RAM to be considered a Ram ship.  ::)
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Post by: mirth on September 14, 2018, 08:12:43 AM
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USS North Carolina (BB-55) in heavy seas, Philippines, December 12th 1944

(https://i.redd.it/2wpq6y7xo4m11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 14, 2018, 08:15:30 AM
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USS Hornet (CVS-12) chasing down the Apollo 11 capsule, containing Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong, and Mike Collins

(https://i.imgur.com/xn5PdHi.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 14, 2018, 08:17:09 AM
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Eight Fairey Firefly FR.1 and seven Hawker Sea Fury FB.11 overfly the Royal Australian Navy aricraft carrier HMAS Sydney (R17) in 1949.

(https://i.imgur.com/llbydUe.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 14, 2018, 08:59:59 AM
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Undated, maneuvers by the USS Philip (DD-76), USS Aaron Ward (DD-132) and USS Greer (DD-145)

(https://i.imgur.com/sEMkJWo.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 14, 2018, 12:02:00 PM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1040631432765423616
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Post by: mirth on September 17, 2018, 09:20:40 AM
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HMS Queen Elizabeth photographed shortly after the completion of her last major rebuild. Just about the only thing that remained the same from the previous rebuild were the guns. Note the iconic Forth Bridge in the background.

(https://i.imgur.com/19S74.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 17, 2018, 09:22:46 AM
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USS South Dakota (BB-57) and USS Alabama (BB-60), 1943, with the British Home Fleet in the Atlantic

(https://i.imgur.com/tzdQheR.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 17, 2018, 10:20:51 AM
https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2018/09/17/the-us-navy-is-going-to-need-a-bigger-boat-and-its-getting-ready-to-buy-one/
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Post by: mirth on September 17, 2018, 10:28:56 AM
https://twitter.com/LeBrunJames81/status/1041564844728758272
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Post by: mirth on September 17, 2018, 10:48:47 AM
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Stern view of Japanese carrier Akagi, deck loaded with Mitsubishi B1M & B2M biplane torpedo bombers; off Osaka, Japan, 15 October 1934

(https://i.redd.it/me71y79c0tm11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 17, 2018, 03:46:38 PM
https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1041765991758221312
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Post by: bob48 on September 17, 2018, 03:50:51 PM
I bet that wasn't cheap!
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Post by: mirth on September 18, 2018, 01:24:33 PM
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Japanese light aircraft carrier Zuihō viewed from the aircraft carrier Shōkaku during operations in the South Pacific after the Battle of the Eastern Solomons, September 10-23, 1942

(https://i.redd.it/00gwwsr4wym11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 19, 2018, 12:17:35 PM
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HMS Glorious at anchor, 1935; the doors to the lower hangar deck are open.

(https://i.imgur.com/AsOsUls.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 19, 2018, 12:21:09 PM
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HMS Queen Elizabeth skirting Hurricane Florence shortly before entering naval station Norfolk. Crown copyright 2018.


(https://i.redd.it/iczrlynz33n11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 19, 2018, 12:22:11 PM
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Whirlwinds fly off HMS Eagle late 1950s, before her rebuild


(https://i.redd.it/ze7l2qrgl7n11.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on September 19, 2018, 12:29:21 PM
I love those old carriers  :2thumbs:
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Post by: mirth on September 19, 2018, 02:38:52 PM
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The guns of the USS Oklahoma (BB-37) emerging from the depths in March of 1943, 16 months after her capsizing during the Pearl Harbor Raid.


(https://i.imgur.com/mzZ91zr.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on September 19, 2018, 03:27:19 PM
That is a very sombre picture.
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Post by: mirth on September 20, 2018, 10:00:56 AM
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Japanese battleship Yamato nearing completion at the fitting-out pier at Kure Naval Yard, September 20, 1941


(https://i.redd.it/h6b918a1hdn11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 20, 2018, 01:41:02 PM
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Italian midget submarine at Sevastopol, Crimea, circa 1942

(https://i.redd.it/zida0mdg7fn11.jpg)
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Post by: Barthheart on September 20, 2018, 01:42:07 PM
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Italian midget submarine at Sevastopol, Crimea, circa 1942

(https://i.redd.it/zida0mdg7fn11.jpg)

FTFY
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Post by: mirth on September 20, 2018, 01:54:46 PM
fixed what now?
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Post by: Barthheart on September 20, 2018, 02:06:58 PM
Revisionist!  :bsmeter:

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Post by: mirth on September 20, 2018, 08:48:17 PM
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German U-boats anchored at Kiel, 17 February 1914

(https://i.redd.it/jec3fuf78en11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 21, 2018, 08:14:28 AM
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Aft view of USS Arizona (BB-39) and other ships of the US Pacific Fleet in the 1930's.

(https://i.imgur.com/YrU4E53.jpg)
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Post by: bayonetbrant on September 22, 2018, 01:33:26 PM
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/us-navy-ship-fought-world-war-ii-and-against-great-britain-decades-later-31717
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Post by: mirth on September 22, 2018, 06:38:01 PM
https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1043627369813041153
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 08:03:19 AM
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Japanese aircraft carrier Zuikaku with heavy cruisers (from left) Chikuma, Tone and Haguro, forward deployed to Brown Island, Eniwetok Atoll, September 20-23, 1943


(https://i.redd.it/xrx9ug12ann11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 08:05:03 AM
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Two U-boats aground near Falmouth, England in 1921. The boat nearer to the camera is UB-86 a type UB-III. These boats were on the way to the breakers, notice no deck guns and periscopes.


(https://i.imgur.com/e7AwjK8.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 08:06:24 AM
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The Italian submarine Domenico Millelire in the 1970s, spending her last days as a floating latex depot for Pirelli. Built in 1925-1928, she was the last survivor of the 156 submarines fielded by the Regia Marina during World War II.


(https://i.redd.it/7kr46uisxyn11.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on September 23, 2018, 08:08:37 AM
How very odd...and......Italian!
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 12:51:54 PM
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Japanese helicopter destroyer JS Izumo (DDH-183)


(https://i.imgur.com/1OZVLFB.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 12:53:22 PM
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HMS Queen Elizabeth


(https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Hurricane-Lighting-HMS-Queen-Elizabeth-Westlant-18.jpg)
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Post by: Staggerwing on September 23, 2018, 03:07:11 PM
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Japanese helicopter destroyer JS Izumo (DDH-183)


(https://i.imgur.com/1OZVLFB.jpg)


Does that little sign on the side of the island say 'My other helicopter is an F-35' in kanji script?
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 03:43:18 PM
^ ;D
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 06:50:22 PM
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PLAN Type 09-IV SSBN


(https://i.redd.it/ph5h9ywsx0o11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 07:03:10 PM
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USS Ticonderoga (CV-14) listing after a kamikaze attack on Jan 21, 1945.


(https://i.imgur.com/IZWPOPv.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 07:05:11 PM
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At sea. USS Cotten (DD-669) comes alongside USS Sanborn (APA-193), a Haskell-class attack transport, ca. 1945. At this point of the Pacific War, Cotten provided fire support/scouting duties for the Iwo Jima operation. Original 35mm Kodachrome transparency.


(https://i.redd.it/bve29bgd22o11.png)


(https://i.imgur.com/HWkZKSh.png)
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 07:07:09 PM
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The German light cruiser SMS Rostock. She was commissioned in 1914 and scuttled at the Battle of Jutland on 1 June 1916. (From Illustrated London News, 10 June 1916, page 739)


(https://i.imgur.com/G9kjACz.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on September 23, 2018, 07:09:07 PM
Some good pictures there, Mirth.  :bigthumb:
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 07:09:44 PM
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Ships bow HMS Nelson


(https://scontent.fyyc2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/42325017_2117088651889505_5687904191721242624_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&oh=c87d5cf6174660ef15646f33a07bdcf3&oe=5C2F95BE)
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 07:10:17 PM
Some good pictures there, Mirth.  :bigthumb:

I do try to find the good ones  ;)
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Post by: bob48 on September 23, 2018, 07:11:46 PM
I always thought that the Rodney and the Nelson were magnificent looking ships.
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 07:15:19 PM
I always thought that the Rodney and the Nelson were magnificent looking ships.

+1 That forecastle on the Nelsons is impressive.
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Post by: Staggerwing on September 23, 2018, 07:18:24 PM
I always thought that the Rodney and the Nelson were magnificent looking ships.

+1 That forecastle on the Nelsons is impressive.

The Dolly Parton effect, all assets facing the target.
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 07:20:56 PM
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Docks at Brest, France, late 19th century


(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3888/15332288615_39e453604b_o.jpg)
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Post by: Staggerwing on September 23, 2018, 07:23:25 PM
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Docks at Brest, France, late 19th century

Was that a subconscious progression?
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 07:33:58 PM
I have no idea what you mean  8)
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Post by: mirth on September 23, 2018, 07:38:44 PM
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French protected cruiser Châteaurenault


(https://i.redd.it/hm9cb8aowln11.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on September 24, 2018, 06:58:02 AM
I always thought that the Rodney and the Nelson were magnificent looking ships.

+1 That forecastle on the Nelsons is impressive.

The Dolly Parton effect, all assets facing the target.

ROFL - yeah, 9 x 16" - quite a blast!
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Post by: mirth on September 24, 2018, 11:14:44 AM
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U-776 in the Thames river arrives at Westminster during a post-war UK tour, May 1945.


(https://i.redd.it/nmwmitwh67o11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 24, 2018, 11:19:45 AM
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US Navy blimp K-125 operations aboard USS Sicily (CVE-118) during maneuvers in the Caribbean. As the blimp descends, the flight deck crewmen take hold of the handling lines and bring her to rest on the flight deck, April 6, 1949.


(https://i.redd.it/sdz1weu814o11.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on September 24, 2018, 01:38:42 PM
Good picture! When did those thing go out of service?
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Post by: mirth on September 24, 2018, 01:43:06 PM
They kept the K-Class around into the 50s.
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Post by: bob48 on September 24, 2018, 01:48:08 PM
Excellent. I tend to follow modern airship developments, there are some interesting projects around.



This being one of them.
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Post by: mirth on September 24, 2018, 01:51:39 PM
Yeah, the USN still plays with them.
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Post by: ojsdad on September 24, 2018, 06:16:21 PM
Looking at some of those older black and white photos, or paintings for the ships pre photo, I really wish there had been color photography then. 
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Post by: bob48 on September 24, 2018, 06:30:09 PM
I have seen pictures 'colourised' with various degrees of success, but if all old b&w photo's are suitable or not I have no idea.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 24, 2018, 06:37:02 PM
The colorization is a mixed bag. I've seen some convincing renditions and a lot of junk. I tend to avoid posting colorized pics unless they are very well done.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 25, 2018, 11:46:27 AM
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USS Hancock (CVA-19) and USS Ticonderoga (CVA-14) steaming together. Both CVA's operated together during various times off Vietnam between 1964 and 1969. As there are mostly Vought aircraft on deck of Ticonderoga, this likely dates the photo to August 1969.



(https://i.redd.it/ce94ijnpdeo11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 25, 2018, 01:58:42 PM
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Austro-Hungarian scout cruiser Saida

(https://i.redd.it/7swkg8vjdeo11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 26, 2018, 01:04:10 PM
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HMS Queen Elizabeth stern view while she was the flagship of the Mediterranean Fleet. Her ensign is lowered to half mast for the funeral of the Duke of Connaught


(https://i.redd.it/hiyrxbxmnko11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 26, 2018, 01:05:51 PM
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Forward Torpedo Room, U-505. Museum of Science and Industry, Chicago.


(https://i.redd.it/8y5n9lyw1ko11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 26, 2018, 01:11:07 PM
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IJN armored cruiser Azuma visiting Australia in 1910.


(https://i.imgur.com/GPIwZhw.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 27, 2018, 08:17:43 AM
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Italian FREMM class frigate, Alpino (F594), before being put at sea.


(https://i.redditmedia.com/l0b2VfhaTufKDuKXyAjMSQsaTWqZdmP1ORms1rJ4lxE.jpg?s=097acb686327387c16fe98880fbd0cf1)
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Post by: mirth on September 27, 2018, 08:19:58 AM
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Heavy cruiser USS Portland (CA-33) circa 1944.


(https://i.redd.it/a2nrdifcjmo11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 27, 2018, 08:23:46 AM
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Australian Collins class submarines


(http://www.lemarin.fr/sites/default/files/2015/03/26/collins.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 27, 2018, 08:32:20 AM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1045289511801036801
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Post by: mirth on September 27, 2018, 10:07:14 AM
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Pre-Commissioning Unit (PCU) Indiana (SSN-789) stands out of Norfolk for Alpha Sea Trials off Port Canaveral.


(https://i.redditmedia.com/jHZ_0tmxOMNHTBjqcw4KTlgTevBI7jvoXf469-MLKSo.jpg?s=157e2545c684031ea199f1caf91db9c4)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 27, 2018, 10:11:01 AM
https://twitter.com/CcibChris/status/1045280775925575681
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 27, 2018, 07:27:24 PM
First photos of Kazan SSGN (K-561, Yasen-M class) underway during sea trials in Severodvinsk, September 2018


(https://i.redd.it/h1y9q1hkyro11.jpg)


(https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/bmpd/38024980/5952915/5952915_original.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 28, 2018, 04:43:48 AM
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Yard workers are seen salvaging the guns from turrets #3 and #4 of the USS Arizona (BB-39), February, 1942 for use as shore emplacements.


(https://i.imgur.com/mhkXhsT.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 28, 2018, 08:21:56 AM
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Coaling protected cruiser HMS Charybdis at H.M. Dockyard, Halifax, Canada, c. 1901-02.


(https://i.imgur.com/cuNiHXT.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 28, 2018, 12:02:21 PM
https://www.pnj.com/story/news/military/2018/09/17/uss-nimitz-deck-greet-visitors-national-naval-aviation-museum/1295359002/
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 30, 2018, 05:19:21 PM
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U-858 anchored in Cape Henlopen, Del. in May 1945. Officer w/ megaphone on her conning tower is LCDR. Willard D. Michael.


(https://i.imgur.com/6gbtB3y.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 30, 2018, 08:45:01 PM
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Kongō in drydock during her extensive modernization and conversion from battlecruiser to battleship, Yokosuka, Japan, 1930.


(https://i.redd.it/qjh8994hhep11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 30, 2018, 08:51:43 PM
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/23939/my-observations-and-questions-after-finally-seeing-f-35bs-operate-from-hms-queen-elizabeth
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Post by: Staggerwing on September 30, 2018, 10:10:28 PM
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U-858 anchored in Cape Henlopen, Del. in May 1945. Officer w/ megaphone on her conning tower is LCDR. Willard D. Michael.


(https://i.imgur.com/6gbtB3y.jpg)

With a Sikorsky R4 Hoverfly and K-class Blimp in the picture no less.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 01, 2018, 06:17:40 AM
What a great picture - and thanks for the additional info, Stagger  :bigthumb:
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Post by: Staggerwing on October 01, 2018, 06:40:58 AM
Notice the shadow the blimp casts on the breakwater or shoreline in the background. Those K-class were pretty darn big.
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Post by: bob48 on October 01, 2018, 07:04:07 AM
Yep - I wouldn't have noticed that, so thanks for pointing it out.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 01, 2018, 09:27:35 AM
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USS Portland (CA-33) in a drydock at the Cockatoo Island Dockyard, Sydney, Australia, circa in late December 1942.


(https://i.imgur.com/kwxGjzz.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 01, 2018, 09:28:19 AM
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USS Pensacola (CA-24) alongside the repair ship USS Vestal (AR-4), undergoing repair of torpedo damage received during the Battle of Tassafaronga, off Guadalcanal. Note the hole in her side below the mainmast. Dec 17, 1942


(https://i.imgur.com/BMGedYL.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 01, 2018, 09:37:59 AM
https://twitter.com/PortsmouthProud/status/1046703943806521344
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 01, 2018, 01:07:39 PM
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British Town Class destroyer Stanley I73 (former Clemson Class destroyer McCalla DD-253)


(https://i.redd.it/qg6hbhi46lp11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on October 01, 2018, 01:40:14 PM
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Balao-class submarine USS Razorback (SS-394) next to River-class frigate HMCS Antigonish (K661)


(https://i.redd.it/w1igare5jlp11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on October 03, 2018, 12:46:15 PM
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Survivors from the Imperial German Navy SMS Gneisenau in the sea awaiting rescue by the HMS Inflexible. Battle of the Falklands, WW1, Dec, 1914

(https://i.redd.it/akcoux2slyp11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on October 03, 2018, 12:49:28 PM
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Kentucky BB-6 after modernization


(https://i.redd.it/1q3v39o8mtp11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on October 03, 2018, 12:50:42 PM
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The pre-dreadnoughts USS Alabama (BB-8), Illinois (BB-7), and Maine (BB-10) in the Canal Zone, 1915


(https://i.redd.it/8mmp9bav4op11.jpg)
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Post by: Barthheart on October 03, 2018, 12:54:23 PM
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Kentucky BB-6 after modernization


(https://i.redd.it/1q3v39o8mtp11.jpg)

"modernization"
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on October 03, 2018, 07:26:13 PM
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Kentucky BB-6 after modernization


(https://i.redd.it/1q3v39o8mtp11.jpg)

"modernization"

Dontcha love it? It's yesteryear's wickerworks version of Aegis.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 04, 2018, 05:55:17 AM
I hate the look of those wickerwork thingies - looks like someone tried to crochet a battleship.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 04, 2018, 06:40:34 AM
I hate the look of those wickerwork thingies - looks like someone tried to crochet a battleship.

+1 Cage masts are hideous looking.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 04, 2018, 09:37:46 AM
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Starboard bow view of the USS Little Rock (CLG-4) steaming into Norfolk in the mid-1960s.


(https://i.redd.it/zflzqgv5y5q11.jpg)
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Post by: Staggerwing on October 04, 2018, 12:58:28 PM
That one has a wee bit of wickerworkiness going on too. Must have got the urge to kick it vintage-style.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 05, 2018, 10:36:25 AM
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USS Huntington (CA-5) sports dazzle camouflage as she lies at anchor in a European port following a convoy escort mission across the Atlantic in 1918


(https://i.redd.it/mg5i3x1v7dq11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Barthheart on October 05, 2018, 11:00:42 AM
Is there a ship in that pic?  ???
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 05, 2018, 12:12:25 PM
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The 3rd Battle Squadron in Malta, 1917. From left to right, HMS Hindustan, HMS Africa, HMS Hibernia and lead ship of the class these ships belonged to, HMS King Edward VII


(https://i.redd.it/iva8lyz867q11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on October 06, 2018, 11:25:26 AM
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The lead ship of her class of protected cruisers, the last class of ships of that type built for the German Imperial Navy, SMS Victoria Louise.


(https://i.redd.it/akex0y6eujq11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on October 06, 2018, 11:27:02 AM
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Originally build for the Ottoman Navy but seized by the Royal Navy at the start of WW1, a top down view of HMS Erin showing her heavy broadside of 13.5-inch guns.


(https://i.redd.it/oflv0uohdeq11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 06, 2018, 01:51:43 PM
I hadn't heard of it before, so i looked it up as 13.5" guns seemed a strange calibre.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Erin
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on October 06, 2018, 02:13:07 PM
She also has that weird British sunken middle turret that can't fire directly over the rear ones.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 06, 2018, 02:28:15 PM
Yes, that midships turret is a bit weird.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 06, 2018, 02:55:15 PM
Took everyone a while to figure out turret layouts.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 06, 2018, 06:19:10 PM
(https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/ab35259c3d11964a4e2ced1975360de2wtmk.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=920)
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Post by: mirth on October 06, 2018, 06:46:47 PM
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HMS Vanguard(23) in Rotterdam, June 1952


(https://i.imgur.com/ULKQE1p.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 07, 2018, 08:27:56 AM
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USS Pawcatuck (AO-108) refueling USS Valley Forge (CVS-45) and USS Eaton (DDE-510), 18 June 1959


(https://i.redd.it/34p50vxs9rq11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on October 07, 2018, 02:36:11 PM
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Austro-Hungarian pre-dreadnought SMS Babenberg in 1914.


(https://i.imgur.com/rg26c0K.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 07, 2018, 08:31:12 PM
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Vietnamese Navy ship HQ275, during a passage exercise (PASSEX)


(https://i.redd.it/x6xao88gouq11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on October 08, 2018, 11:13:54 AM
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USS Marblehead (CL-12) in San Diego harbor, on 10 January 1935.


(https://i.imgur.com/pLOCnoa.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 08, 2018, 11:15:35 AM
https://twitter.com/at_RIN/status/1048898301129572352
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 08, 2018, 11:40:09 AM
This is very interesting. I would have thought that there would have been more activity around the Med and Black Sea, unless its just not shown on that one.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 08, 2018, 11:54:35 AM
This is a helluva pic


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USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70) approaches the USS Arizona (BB-39) Memorial and the battleship USS Missouri (BB-63) as she enters Pearl Harbour.


(https://i.redd.it/ikdv0d1cczq11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 08, 2018, 12:16:32 PM
What a great picture  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 09, 2018, 11:04:24 AM
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Gunfire and torpedo damage assessment of the USS Quincy (CA-39) following her loss at the Battle of Savo Island on August 9, 1942.


(https://i.redd.it/7iyf2ovmn5r11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 09, 2018, 12:05:41 PM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1049690973729640448
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 10, 2018, 08:49:09 AM
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24139/uss-desert-ship-sits-in-a-sea-of-sand-and-launched-the-navy-to-the-forefront-of-missile-tech
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 10, 2018, 10:56:51 AM
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A former US Coast Guard Hamilton-class cutter in service with the Vietnam Coast Guard


(https://i.imgur.com/WveXZ0m.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 10, 2018, 11:02:10 AM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1050038388408094723
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 10, 2018, 01:20:23 PM
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Two Austro-Hungarian river monitors of the Danube Flotilla, in 1916. The closer vessel is a Körös Kovess class monitor, while the other appears to be one of the ‘Sava’-class.


(https://i.redd.it/zo37ebf95ar11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on October 10, 2018, 01:20:54 PM
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Japanese aircraft carrier Hiyo undergoing tests of an experimental foam fire extinguisher system at Yokosuka, October 7, 1943


(https://i.redd.it/g1j6xvor97r11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 10, 2018, 08:46:16 PM
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 10, 2018, 08:49:06 PM
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Russian Yasen-class submarine K-560 Severodvinsk, 14 February 2018


(https://i.redd.it/ffw00vige6r11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on October 10, 2018, 08:55:46 PM
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Inside the USS Yorktown hangar, late 1943. Ordnancemen prepare bombs and planes while a briefing takes place in the background


(https://i.redd.it/0n9ivxnk0yq11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 10, 2018, 10:37:26 PM
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24155/vital-logistics-ships-will-be-without-critical-u-s-navy-escorts-in-a-major-conflict
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on October 11, 2018, 07:51:59 AM
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24155/vital-logistics-ships-will-be-without-critical-u-s-navy-escorts-in-a-major-conflict

(http://www.aarcentral.com/pics/rvp.gif)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 11, 2018, 08:14:16 AM
https://twitter.com/MilHistNow/status/1050351638714753024
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 11, 2018, 08:25:32 AM
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USS Kansas (BB-21) in Brest, France in 1919; USS New Hampshire (BB-25) (left) and USS Connecticut (BB-18) (right) are visible in the distance


(https://i.imgur.com/ljwptJx.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on October 11, 2018, 08:31:58 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/jsbee.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 11, 2018, 08:32:35 AM
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Japanese heavy cruiser Kako at the Yokosuka Naval Review celebrating the 2600th Anniversary of the Founding of the Empire of Japan, October 11, 1940


(https://i.redd.it/ghutv1hkpir11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on October 11, 2018, 08:35:51 AM
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Indian Rajput-class destroyer INS Rana (D52) visiting Jeju Island, South Korea for International Fleet Review


(https://i.imgur.com/betzCOk.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 11, 2018, 08:53:44 AM
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Imperial Russian dreadnought Poltava at full steam in 1916.


(https://i.imgur.com/V61zP6L.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 11, 2018, 08:56:38 AM
This should work out great

https://twitter.com/SamBendett/status/1050367486527442944
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 11, 2018, 10:11:55 AM
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French battleship Richelieu arrives in New York with her damaged turret; the uppermost fire control director on the fore tower had to be dismantled for her to pass under the Brooklyn Bridge, 1943


(https://i.redd.it/zh6evy8w2kr11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on October 11, 2018, 12:21:41 PM
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USS Washington (BB-56) looking sharp in MS22 Camo during a peacetime midshipman's cruise in 1946.


(https://i.redd.it/0z7n264cvjr11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 17, 2018, 10:01:03 AM
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Japanese Navy off Tsingtao, China (ships left to right are: Akagi, Kirishima, Kongo, Mikuma, Ryujo, Kumano and Fuso), 25 March 1938

(https://i.redd.it/qguh73bxwqs11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 17, 2018, 10:18:27 AM
What an interesting picture  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 18, 2018, 08:18:57 PM
https://twitter.com/thewarzonewire/status/1053070530868215808
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 19, 2018, 08:37:42 AM
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USS ARLEIGH BURKE (DDG-51) underway in rough seas


(https://i.imgur.com/iog5qGB.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 19, 2018, 12:13:35 PM
https://twitter.com/CavasShips/status/1053313966611591169
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Barthheart on October 19, 2018, 12:54:51 PM
What does "CVW" stand for...?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 19, 2018, 01:13:50 PM
What does "CVW" stand for...?

Carrier Air Wing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_Air_Wing_Eight


Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Barthheart on October 19, 2018, 01:21:32 PM
Thanks. I thought it was referring to the other ship in the picture.....
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 19, 2018, 01:45:38 PM
Thanks. I thought it was referring to the other ship in the picture.....

USN acronyms are a little weird, but CVW kinda makes sense when you think about it.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on October 19, 2018, 07:07:09 PM
As in "a CV Nuclear with it's CV Wing'"
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 20, 2018, 04:35:06 PM
https://twitter.com/Erikhistorian/status/1053436951196590080
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on October 20, 2018, 04:48:57 PM
That's some proud wickerworks!
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Post by: mirth on October 20, 2018, 06:18:51 PM
More cage mast goodness


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Greek dreadnought Kilkis, formerly the USS Mississippi


(https://i.imgur.com/zBVD4j7.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on October 20, 2018, 06:21:02 PM
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USS New York (BB-34) pitching into heavy seas while en route from Casablanca on convoy escort duty, March 1943


(https://i.redd.it/imecp7546bt11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 22, 2018, 02:51:27 AM
https://twitter.com/MilHistNow/status/1054262828943708160
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 22, 2018, 06:15:49 AM
I mean to say - WTF would Japanese torpedo boats be doing in the North Sea?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on October 22, 2018, 06:45:07 AM
We can't assume that the sailors who fired even knew where Japan is. They were probably conscripts with little to no education.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Barthheart on October 22, 2018, 06:47:20 AM
Russians making up unbelievable bullshit even back then.... :idiot2:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 22, 2018, 09:26:49 AM
https://news.usni.org/2018/10/19/analysis-of-navy-shipbuilding-plan-hints-at-return-to-blue-sea-great-power-competition
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 22, 2018, 04:30:26 PM
We can't assume that the sailors who fired even knew where Japan is. They were probably conscripts with little to no education.

That may well apply even to the officer's who were giving orders to those sailors..................
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 23, 2018, 12:13:17 PM
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Mothballed Ticonderoga class cruisers at Philadelphia Navy Yard


(https://i.redd.it/c6ljqbz3xxt11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 24, 2018, 02:53:52 PM
https://twitter.com/thewarzonewire/status/1055169222949535744
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: trailrunner on October 24, 2018, 07:00:29 PM
https://twitter.com/thewarzonewire/status/1055169222949535744

Yep, this is one of my programs.  I may get a trip to Norway - in January.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 24, 2018, 07:01:49 PM
Cool!  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 30, 2018, 09:19:53 AM
https://twitter.com/CavasShips/status/1057258949542662144
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 30, 2018, 01:09:12 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-military-ship/russias-only-aircraft-carrier-damaged-after-crane-falls-on-it-idUSKCN1N410U
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 01, 2018, 03:03:45 PM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1058071294330200064
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 01, 2018, 07:30:02 PM
https://twitter.com/thewarzonewire/status/1058137252046372864
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 02, 2018, 05:20:09 AM
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Nuclear icebreaker '50 Let Pobedy' en route to North Pole, 2013


(https://i.redd.it/26nnqf02asv11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 02, 2018, 05:21:23 AM
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French battleship Dunkerque, anchored at Spithead, May 1937. Representing France at the Grand Naval Review celebrating the coronation of King George VI


(https://i.redd.it/4iqxyswnuov11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on November 02, 2018, 06:50:10 AM
Nice lines...
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Barthheart on November 02, 2018, 08:07:52 AM
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Nuclear icebreaker '50 Let Pobedy' en route to North Pole, 2013


(https://i.redd.it/26nnqf02asv11.jpg)

What could possibly go  wrong....  :doh:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on November 02, 2018, 08:47:36 AM
No need to worry- it was built by Russians...

30 years ago...
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 04, 2018, 08:38:10 AM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1059075320807129097
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 04, 2018, 12:22:40 PM
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French destroyer Le Fantasque on trials after refitting and requalification as a light cruiser, Casco Bay, 13 June 1943


(https://i.redd.it/x5sfj3zxsbw11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 04, 2018, 12:46:37 PM
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Barracks ship USS Benewah (APB-35) in the Mekong Delta. Built in 1945, she would earn eleven battle stars during the Vietnam War.


(https://i.imgur.com/BFQqoKE.jpg)


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    Benewah reached Vietnam on 22 April. Upon arrival, she became flagship for the Commander Task Force (CTF) 117, the Mobile Riverine Force operating in the Mekong Delta. Except for an occasional trip to Japan for repairs, Benewah spent the next 44 months at various locations in the Mekong Delta. In 1968-69, "Benewah" spent most of its time in the Mekong River near the Ninth Infantry division base at Đồng Tâm or an alternate anchorage near Ben Tre. In addition to serving as headquarters, she provided barracks space, medical facilities, stores issue, and a myriad of other services to the sailors and soldiers operating with the Mobile Riverine Force and with the similar formations that succeeded that organization when it was disestablished late in August 1969. The barracks ship frequently suffered enemy fire, and her guns went into action on numerous occasions. In May and early June 1970, Benewah participated in the incursion into Cambodian territory to support forces interdicting the Viet Cong supply lines running through that country.

    On 26 November 1970, the ship departed Vietnam and headed for the Philippines. After a visit to Singapore between 28 November and 5 December, she arrived at Subic Bay on 11 December. There, Benewah underwent an inspection by a board of inspection and survey. That board determined that she was unfit for further active naval service. She was decommissioned there on 26 February 1971 and was turned over to the Naval Station, Subic Bay, to serve as station ship. Though decommissioned, Benewah remained on the active list in an in-service status. She was also redesignated a miscellaneous auxiliary, IX-311, two days after her decommissioning on 28 February 1971. She served at Subic Bay until 1 September 1973 on which day her name was struck from the Naval Vessel Register. In May 1974, she was transferred to the Republic of the Philippines.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Benewah_(APB-35)
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Post by: mirth on November 04, 2018, 12:47:54 PM
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HMS Fury leading a flotilla of destroyers during manoeuvres at Scapa Flow.


(https://i.redd.it/bx812lrfe4w11.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on November 04, 2018, 01:29:08 PM
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HMAS Melbourne (R-21) on a port visit to Pearl Harbor, 1958.


(https://i.imgur.com/4XZpsCS.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on November 05, 2018, 12:06:42 PM
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Russian Slava class cruiser Varyag


(https://i.imgur.com/D7xXonm.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on November 05, 2018, 12:11:56 PM
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Imperial Russian battleship Oryol at Kronstadt, August 1904


(https://i.redd.it/5m21ne44mdw11.jpg)
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Post by: Staggerwing on November 05, 2018, 12:56:05 PM
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Russian Slava class cruiser Varyag


(https://i.imgur.com/D7xXonm.jpg)

Looks like the same kind of missile mounts as was used on one of the big Ekranoplans, the 'Lun'.


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5f/Lun_Ekranoplan.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 05, 2018, 01:28:20 PM
https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1059510558259523588
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 08, 2018, 07:25:48 AM
https://www.stripes.com/news/norwegian-frigate-could-sink-after-being-rammed-by-tanker-1.555707
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 13, 2018, 10:02:44 AM
https://twitter.com/TaskandPurpose/status/1062358808792571904
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Post by: bob48 on November 13, 2018, 10:48:21 AM
You have to suspect that they forgot one of the major components of running aground.

Ground has been found to be especially useful in such circumstances.
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Post by: mirth on November 15, 2018, 10:25:50 PM
https://twitter.com/thewarzonewire/status/1063271125453393926
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Post by: mirth on November 19, 2018, 12:52:55 PM
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U.S.S. Missouri as It Enters Tokyo Bay for the Surrender Ceremony


(https://i.imgur.com/eXuB18s.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on November 20, 2018, 10:02:04 AM
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Akatsuki-Class Torpedo-Boat Destroyer Kasumi in Clyde, Scotland 1902


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/IJN_Kasumi_in_England_Meiji_35.jpg/1280px-IJN_Kasumi_in_England_Meiji_35.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on November 20, 2018, 10:15:24 AM
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Every Royal Navy Ship Lost In World War II


(https://i.redd.it/oc2hr15zmfz11.png)
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Post by: mirth on November 20, 2018, 11:06:37 AM
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Canadian Navy Day sailpast, 1960


(https://i.redd.it/dbnbhegdsgz11.jpg)
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Post by: Barthheart on November 20, 2018, 11:09:43 AM
Back when we had a navy....  :(
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 20, 2018, 12:34:48 PM
https://twitter.com/thewarzonewire/status/1064724846205054976
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Post by: mirth on November 20, 2018, 01:52:34 PM
https://twitter.com/WarshipPorn/status/1064954407530438657
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Post by: mirth on November 20, 2018, 01:54:55 PM
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Collapsed dock crane on the deck of Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov after drydock accident


(https://i.imgur.com/EUyp6XC.png)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 20, 2018, 02:38:47 PM
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/25031/navy-attack-subs-lost-more-than-two-decades-worth-of-operational-time-to-maintenance-delays
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 21, 2018, 01:28:25 PM
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HMS Renown, Auckland April 1920.


(https://i.redd.it/zd7xzc788pz11.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 22, 2018, 06:47:30 PM
https://twitter.com/navalhistorian/status/1065735815991562241
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Post by: mirth on November 23, 2018, 07:21:13 AM
https://twitter.com/MilHistNow/status/1065942288092749825
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Post by: mirth on November 23, 2018, 11:00:13 AM
https://twitter.com/Erikhistorian/status/1065997983970410497
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Post by: mirth on November 25, 2018, 09:27:28 AM
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USS Omaha (CL-4) in Commencement Bay at the end of July 1924


(https://i.imgur.com/t2nhiw4.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on November 28, 2018, 08:50:34 PM
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Japanese carrier Sōryū at anchor in the Kurile Islands, 1941


(https://i.redd.it/gvm97gndg5121.jpg)
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Post by: MIGs on November 30, 2018, 08:09:36 AM
Japan's New Carrier



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/29/japan-to-get-first-aircraft-carrier-since-second-world-war-amid-china-concerns?CMP=fb_gu&fbclid=IwAR2Z9g_rb2zNLvTygy0QLskC8cyLVzMGOi3m6j9Vm1SlNDW6C4poKALRLYE
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 30, 2018, 09:02:26 AM
^that was inevitable
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Post by: bayonetbrant on November 30, 2018, 09:39:25 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36824917/trident-what-are-the-letters-of-last-resort
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Post by: mirth on November 30, 2018, 10:04:25 AM
https://www.al.com/news/2018/11/civil-war-blockade-runner-uncovered-in-fort-morgan-surf.html
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 30, 2018, 02:37:08 PM
The Russkis are having quite a time in their shipyards

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/25156/russian-icebreaker-under-construction-bursts-into-flames-injuring-at-least-two
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Post by: mirth on December 02, 2018, 12:35:17 PM
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A 16-inch projectile lands near the bow of the target ship being fired at by the battleships USS NEW JERSEY (BB-62) and USS MISSOURI (BB-63) during Fleet Exercise '89


(https://i.imgur.com/ZHG6lTl.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on December 02, 2018, 12:37:57 PM
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US Navy Virginia class nuclear powered attack submarine USS Illinois (SSN-786)


(https://i.imgur.com/p3cqnxD.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on December 02, 2018, 12:38:45 PM
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George H. W. Bush being rescued by USS Finback after being shot down over Chichijima island, 2 September 1944


(https://i.redd.it/08ylzcz5gm121.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on December 02, 2018, 12:41:33 PM
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Royal Navy Astute-class arriving Faslane Naval Base


(https://i.redd.it/4c8ngh9n7w121.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on December 02, 2018, 12:43:46 PM
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The Slava class cruiser 'Ukrayina'. For almost 30 years she has been lying around 95% complete at a shipyard in Kyiv, Ukraine, because neither Russia nor Ukraine wanted to pay for her completion.


(https://i.imgur.com/8m1hsiI.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on December 03, 2018, 12:41:48 PM
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Colbert (French Battleship, 1875), left center, and Redoutable (French Battleship, 1876), right center. Moored off Brest navy yard, France circa the late 1870s or early 1880s



(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/384/19306725059_ff457d06aa_o.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on December 03, 2018, 12:44:08 PM
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HMS Duke Of York (17) at speed in the Pacific.


(https://i.imgur.com/InEYibe.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on December 03, 2018, 03:46:08 PM
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British battlecruiser HMS Repulse escorting the last troop convoy to Singapore before the start of the Japanese invasion of Malaya, early December 1941


(https://i.redd.it/7b7dkeq064221.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 06, 2018, 08:02:43 AM
https://twitter.com/MilHistNow/status/1070664564528824320
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Post by: mirth on December 06, 2018, 09:10:24 AM
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Japanese heavy cruiser Kumano anchored at Rabaul, with a Mitsubishi F1M "Pete" reconnaissance seaplane in the foreground, December 4-5, 1942


(https://i.redd.it/sn1i2mjv6n221.jpg)
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Post by: besilarius on December 09, 2018, 12:25:24 PM
Speaking of Japanese capitol ships, an oldie but a goodie.

http://www.navweaps.com/index_lundgren/Kirishima_Damage_Analysis.pdf
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Post by: besilarius on December 18, 2018, 07:20:18 AM
Don't recall this problem when Dreadnaught was constructed.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/2178493/death-penalty-may-await-chinese-aircraft-carrier-builder-boss
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Post by: mirth on December 19, 2018, 02:46:33 PM
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Sovremenny-class destroyer Nastoychivyy steaming along in the Baltic fleet


(https://i.imgur.com/nPyb1KH.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on December 19, 2018, 03:09:09 PM
Coal burner?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on December 19, 2018, 06:45:46 PM
Coal burner?
Ha! Exactly my first thought as well
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Post by: MIGs on December 21, 2018, 10:20:45 AM
I think the rings and gaskets may be shot !
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Post by: besilarius on December 22, 2018, 08:12:20 AM
Waiting for the Swordfish torpedo attack by making a smokescreen.

Lots of incomplete combustion there.  "Chief Engineer to the bridge."
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Post by: Staggerwing on December 23, 2018, 07:57:02 AM
Waiting for the Swordfish torpedo attack by making a smokescreen.

Lots of incomplete combustion there.  "Chief Engineer to the bridge."

'But ye cannah break the laws o' physics, Cap'n!'
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Post by: besilarius on January 02, 2019, 09:12:21 AM
Sailors find creative ways to salute other navy;s.
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Post by: mirth on January 04, 2019, 06:07:10 AM
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HMS Duke of York sails from Portland Harbour. In the background are her sister ships HMS Anson and HMS Howe


(https://i.redd.it/uofhzzblp6821.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on January 04, 2019, 06:09:12 AM
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FS Le Terrible (S-619) at her launch ceremony


(https://i.redd.it/lj0cak5j4a821.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on January 04, 2019, 06:10:30 AM
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PzH 2000 Turret mounted onto the German Frigate 'Hamburg' for MONARC


(https://i.redd.it/jkxppsskn7821.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on January 04, 2019, 06:11:59 AM
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HMS Benbow


(https://i.redd.it/8lvnez68q7821.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on January 04, 2019, 06:12:59 AM
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6-berth Junior Rates Cabin on the aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth


(https://i.imgur.com/w1yjMbS.png)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on January 06, 2019, 12:03:32 PM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1081958667002490882
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Post by: trailrunner on January 10, 2019, 08:21:21 PM
I got to go on the CVN 78 (USS Ford) today.  After my meeting, I walked around the ship a bit.  I saw the AAG (advanced arresting gear) and a few other systems, walked up to the bridge, and walked around the flight deck.

Docked across the pier from the Ford was the Enterprise.  Sort of sad to see it empty and partially stripped.  In with the new, out with the old, I guess.
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Post by: mirth on January 10, 2019, 08:47:45 PM
I got to go on the CVN 78 (USS Ford) today.  After my meeting, I walked around the ship a bit.  I saw the AAG (advanced arresting gear) and a few other systems, walked up to the bridge, and walked around the flight deck.

Docked across the pier from the Ford was the Enterprise.  Sort of sad to see it empty and partially stripped.  In with the new, out with the old, I guess.

very cool!  :bigthumb:
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Post by: mirth on January 11, 2019, 08:18:24 AM
https://twitter.com/WarshipPorn/status/1083714475679723520
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on January 18, 2019, 07:07:58 AM
https://twitter.com/MilHistNow/status/1086233044623806465
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Post by: besilarius on January 20, 2019, 09:26:42 AM

The last of USS Canopus (AS-34)

https://www.facebook.com/todd.wuerdeman/videos/10155987300180888/?t=44
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Post by: besilarius on January 21, 2019, 07:20:29 AM
Cutting edge ASW in World War I.
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Post by: Staggerwing on January 21, 2019, 08:08:03 AM
^Cool.
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Post by: besilarius on January 24, 2019, 07:02:42 AM
Fifth Battle Squadron at sea.
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Post by: BanzaiCat on January 25, 2019, 02:57:20 PM
Is EMRG electro-magnetic gun tech? Wasn't the US Navy doing that, but decided to abandon it?
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Post by: bob48 on January 25, 2019, 03:22:13 PM
They couldn't see what the attraction was.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on January 25, 2019, 07:31:36 PM
It can be a bit polarizing.
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Post by: BanzaiCat on January 25, 2019, 08:26:18 PM
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Post by: besilarius on January 26, 2019, 12:45:54 PM
https://www.facebook.com/HistoryBites/videos/288623028678544/?t=31

Declared to be the only color footage taken of Pearl Harbor attack.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on January 29, 2019, 12:28:00 PM
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26197/navy-wants-experimental-squadron-of-surface-ships-to-explore-new-tactics-and-tech
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Post by: Sir Slash on January 29, 2019, 07:40:42 PM
Great article Mirth!  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on January 30, 2019, 07:26:53 AM
https://twitter.com/MilHistNow/status/1090582959336407040
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on January 30, 2019, 07:48:10 AM
...like a tin-can on a shingle.............
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on January 30, 2019, 07:55:58 AM
I wonder if that drawing is of when she foundered and was lost.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on January 30, 2019, 11:07:28 AM
An iron warship?  :o  I wonder who was brave enough to go aboard first? That guy deserves a mention.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on January 30, 2019, 11:10:27 AM
I wonder if that drawing is of when she foundered and was lost.

Pretty much every time she left port she was in danger of foundering, but yeah I think that's what the drawing is depicting.
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Post by: BanzaiCat on January 30, 2019, 12:16:12 PM
I think they found her in 300 feet of water.  I think 'coastal' in this case means 'be less than 10' from shore' ;)
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Post by: besilarius on February 02, 2019, 08:52:38 AM
How the mighty have fallen.  The Russian navy is in deep decline.

https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htwin/articles/20190202.aspx

Sort of reminds me of the US Navy in the thirty years after the Civil War.  No money, and the fleet was left to rot.
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Post by: besilarius on February 02, 2019, 09:35:28 AM
Good video on USS Hornet.
http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/Hornet.html

She goes to sea at about 4:40.  Nice flight deck operations for the Doolittle Raid.
Sorry that I only found this today.  Only up for a few more days.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 02, 2019, 07:07:26 PM
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26261/video-takes-you-inside-russias-beast-devision-of-akula-class-nuclear-fast-attack-subs



Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 02, 2019, 07:08:25 PM
Ford class still has major teething issues

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26260/navys-new-carrier-still-cant-reliably-get-planes-in-the-air-or-safely-back-on-the-deck
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 02, 2019, 07:09:35 PM
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British submarine X-1 underway


(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7541/15818299887_54d7d8ea40_o.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on February 02, 2019, 07:10:18 PM
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French re-dreadnaught Henri IV, shown here in 1910.


(https://i.imgur.com/NJBkz4B.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on February 02, 2019, 07:11:54 PM
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Two Redoutable-class SSBN waiting to be dismantled in 2016. Cherbourg, France.


(https://www.meretmarine.com/sites/default/files/styles/mem_1000/public/new_objets_drupal/20160907235131_2015MCHG036_228.jpg?itok=pPYWgX59)
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Post by: trailrunner on February 02, 2019, 07:35:03 PM
Ford class still has major teething issues

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26260/navys-new-carrier-still-cant-reliably-get-planes-in-the-air-or-safely-back-on-the-deck

That's my office's annual report that is quoted there.  My part of CVN 78 wasn't controversial this year (unlike last year), so my part of the report was pretty minor.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 03, 2019, 10:17:00 AM
Ford class still has major teething issues

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26260/navys-new-carrier-still-cant-reliably-get-planes-in-the-air-or-safely-back-on-the-deck (http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26260/navys-new-carrier-still-cant-reliably-get-planes-in-the-air-or-safely-back-on-the-deck)

That's my office's annual report that is quoted there.  My part of CVN 78 wasn't controversial this year (unlike last year), so my part of the report was pretty minor.

I want your job.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 03, 2019, 10:25:52 AM
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USS Chicago, USS Newwark, USS Atlanta, USS Concord, and USS Yorktown, c.1889


(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8679/15816772590_1c5ae756c8_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 04, 2019, 02:53:19 PM
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26319/usns-sea-hunter-drone-ship-has-sailed-autonomously-to-hawaii-and-back-amid-talk-of-new-roles
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Barthheart on February 04, 2019, 03:10:57 PM
Great.... just great..... :buck2:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on February 04, 2019, 03:13:45 PM
What could possibly go wrong? (http://www.aarcentral.com/emoti/HideEyes.gif)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on February 06, 2019, 03:07:20 PM
I just hope it was supposed to sail to Hawaii and back. I mean it didn't just decide to go on it's own I hope.  :worried:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 07, 2019, 09:21:16 AM
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5 different classes of Japanese destroyers


(https://i.imgur.com/yt8oMsX.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 07, 2019, 09:22:56 AM
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Nuclear icebreaker Arktika, lead ship of her class under construction in St. Petersburg || February, 2019


(https://i.redd.it/zrodi6oda5f21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Barthheart on February 07, 2019, 11:04:03 AM
Yeah... cause that's what we want floating on the ocean... a Russian nuclear plant...  :doh:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on February 07, 2019, 11:15:56 AM
I suppose they must have some serious ice to break in Russia.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Barthheart on February 07, 2019, 11:19:36 AM
No, they want to steal the Arctic from us!  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 07, 2019, 11:26:55 AM
Thankfully you have those Victoria-class subs.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Barthheart on February 07, 2019, 12:16:48 PM
And soon(ish)... drones!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on February 07, 2019, 01:36:39 PM
Don't they know the Artic is melting? What will they do about July when there's no more ice to break? Or, do they have a plan to make…. more.  :o
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: trailrunner on February 07, 2019, 05:13:23 PM
I suppose they must have some serious ice to break in Russia.

They will use the reactor to melt it.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on February 07, 2019, 07:52:18 PM
I suppose they must have some serious ice to break in Russia.

They will use the reactor to melt it.

Along with anything else unfortunate enough to be in the neighborhood.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on February 07, 2019, 11:33:34 PM
Wasn't that how Godzilla got started?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on February 08, 2019, 07:14:59 AM
Wasn't that how Godzilla got started?

 ;D
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 08, 2019, 08:10:36 AM
https://features.propublica.org/navy-accidents/us-navy-crashes-japan-cause-mccain/
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on February 08, 2019, 12:45:09 PM
Very sad.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 10, 2019, 09:34:51 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/7J88BQv.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on February 10, 2019, 11:03:44 AM
Fantastic picture!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on February 10, 2019, 04:12:46 PM
Get some Ben!  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on February 10, 2019, 04:19:45 PM
Independence class carrier during Typhoon.  (Photo caption is wrong.  This is not Hancock.)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on February 10, 2019, 11:04:31 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 12, 2019, 11:48:39 AM
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Great White Fleet in review. Second Squadron Fourth Division ships shown: USS Kearsarge, USS Kentucky, and USS Illinois.


(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8575/15816669528_35e9b14af4_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 13, 2019, 03:00:35 PM
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26475/the-soviets-golden-fish-missile-submarine-still-holds-the-record-as-the-worlds-fastest
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on February 13, 2019, 07:37:38 PM
In Soviet Russia, you no swallow goldfish. Goldfish swallows YOU.  :ROFL:   Somebody had to say it.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 14, 2019, 03:05:08 PM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1096137049445408768
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on February 14, 2019, 10:56:57 PM
Ironbottom Sound right?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 15, 2019, 12:03:10 PM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1096454421695922177
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Post by: mirth on February 15, 2019, 12:09:20 PM
Ironbottom Sound right?

Yep
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Post by: bbmike on February 15, 2019, 01:01:49 PM
Isn't that where those idiotic scavengers are?  :(
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Post by: Staggerwing on February 15, 2019, 06:15:54 PM
I think those asshats are operating mostly in the East Indies and South China Sea areas.
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Post by: Sir Slash on February 15, 2019, 11:13:14 PM
Too bad. The sharks in Ironbottom Sound gotta eat too.
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Post by: bayonetbrant on February 19, 2019, 11:26:11 AM
this dude makes some really good points about the Navy failing to adequately articulate their needs & vision to the shipbuilding world

https://blog.usni.org/posts/2019/02/04/ill-have-a-ship-killer-no-cream-no-sugar
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Post by: trailrunner on February 19, 2019, 03:32:58 PM
this dude makes some really good points about the Navy failing to adequately articulate their needs & vision to the shipbuilding world

https://blog.usni.org/posts/2019/02/04/ill-have-a-ship-killer-no-cream-no-sugar


I've worked on every program mentioned in the article.  A couple of my thoughts:

- DDG 1000 was a product of the 90s.  The Clinton administration was pushing high-tech weapons, and the Navy watched what the Air Force was doing with the F-22 and what the Army was doing with FCS, and needed to stay relevant, so they came up with the Zumwalt.  Ships are not the same as aircraft (in many ways), and FCS wound up dying, but now we're stuck with three DDG 1000 class ships that were way too ambitious and now have ill-defined missions.  I doubt if one will ever become operational.  In the meantime, we are pouring a lot of money into them.  Nobody has the courage to stick a fork in the program and cut our losses.

- LCS is another disaster.  Our running joke is that LCS stands for "little crappy ship."  This was the Navy's attempt at cost savings (ahem) with a modular mission package.  The jury is still out on that, but they haven't sorted out the problems with the sea frames themselves (which should be easy).  And buying two different hulls is a textbook example of how not to do acquisition.

- The article mentioned NSM.  I'm very familiar with that program.  It is being rushed into deployment very, very fast.  By the time FFG(X) is operational (earliest would be 10 years from now), I doubt that NSM will be the choice for this ship.  But the bigger picture is that the Navy doesn't have a good long-range strategy for their attack weapons.  There are several interim stop-gap solutions, such as LRASM, Maritime Strike Tomahawk, and NSM, but I haven't seen much thought beyond those.  Land attack is part of this also.

- I'm also very familiar with FFG(X).  I will give the Navy credit for this program.  From my view, they are going back to basics, or at least are being more realistic.  They are having an open competition with five candidates, and from what I've seen, they've learned their lessons from LCS.  At this point, they are not trying to be too ambitious, but mission creep is perhaps the biggest enemy of DoD acquisition programs, and we'll see where we're at a decade from now.

- I am less familiar with the amphibs, but the article doesn't say anything substantial.  I will say that you shouldn't believe anything in the HII figure.


As a personal update: I've spent the last couple of years in acquisition of major Navy systems, but in a couple of weeks I'm moving to a new position in Army S&T.  I worked in an Army lab before my current position, so I'm looking forward to getting back to the engineering side of things, and I think I will be working on some interesting things.  And I didn't plan my career this way, but by working on Navy programs, I've now worked on just about every area in DoD except cyber.  (You would think that with this experience, I'd be better at wargames, but that knowledge doesn't seem to have transferred.)  With my new job, I'll also be moving from the Pentagon to Crystal City, which will put me in the middle of Amazon's HQ2.  I'm not sure if that will be good or bad.

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Post by: mirth on February 19, 2019, 03:36:02 PM
Great insights. Thanks Trailrunner.
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Post by: bayonetbrant on February 19, 2019, 03:38:43 PM
What do you think of the author's assertions that the Navy does a crappy job of explaining what they want to the market that's trying to respond the Navy's (stated) goals / desires?
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Post by: trailrunner on February 19, 2019, 06:13:03 PM
What do you think of the author's assertions that the Navy does a crappy job of explaining what they want to the market that's trying to respond the Navy's (stated) goals / desires?

I sort of agree with him that the Navy lacks a solid operational concept, but that is true of all services because nobody knows what war we are going to fight next.  In most cases, the service decides what kind of ship or plane or tank they want, then conjure up a corresponding operational concept to fit that.  Is the Navy worse than the other services?  Maybe, maybe not.  For the last 28 years, the Navy has been watching the Army and Air Force have most of the action, and the Navy surface warfare has been a little lost. With the recent realignment towards our near-peers and the happenings in the South China Sea, the Navy has a better focus on where they are needed, but we still don't know what a battle could look like -- will it be quickly decided by subs?  Aircraft?  Surface-to-surface missiles?  I have no idea.  I don't think the Navy (or anyone) does either, but what I was trying to say was that the issues with DDG 1000 and LCS were more of a result of trying new things in the 90s than a lack of an operational concept.  Ships (like other military systems) take a long, long time, so now we're sort of stuck with decisions we made back then.  Although the author didn't state it this way, I think the Navy should develop a roadmap for strike weapons (not just surface warfare), which will affect development of both the weapons themselves, and to some degree the ships.  Hand-in-hand with this would be an operational concept, so I'm sort of in alignment with the author.  For amphibs -- yeah, the operational concept is vague: can any of us really conceive of an amphibious assault in the next decade, or what it would look like?  I was also trying to say that FFG(X) seems to be getting back to basics, and the Navy has clarity with what they want, except for that roadmap for their strike weapons which the ship will eventually deploy.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 21, 2019, 01:31:09 PM
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USS Enterprise (CV-6) landing aircraft while supporting the Gilberts Operation, 22 November 1943


(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7520/16159704280_8011a41419_o.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on February 21, 2019, 01:44:57 PM
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French submarine Perle (S606)


(https://i.imgur.com/zLk3FWY.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on February 21, 2019, 01:47:19 PM
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Hood aerial view of the ship's starboard midships area, off Honolulu, on 12 June 1924. Note rangefinders atop the conning tower and foremast top; with a partially disassembled air craft platform atop B turret; and boats stowed amidships.


(https://i.imgur.com/GcfFbW5.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 21, 2019, 06:48:36 PM
https://twitter.com/CNORichardson/status/1098717989287968768
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Post by: Sir Slash on February 21, 2019, 10:57:17 PM
Well done Admiral John.  :applause:
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Post by: mirth on February 25, 2019, 11:25:53 AM
https://twitter.com/johndefatkin/status/1100017661780594688
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Post by: bayonetbrant on February 25, 2019, 11:47:33 AM
https://twitter.com/johndefatkin/status/1100017661780594688 (https://twitter.com/johndefatkin/status/1100017661780594688)


that's about 3-1/2 miles from Bawb
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Post by: bob48 on February 25, 2019, 11:57:08 AM
I'm only a few miles up river from Tynemouth.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 25, 2019, 11:59:10 AM
I'm only a few miles up river from Tynemouth.

And apparently well defended ;)
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Post by: bbmike on February 25, 2019, 12:28:04 PM
I'm only a few miles up river from Tynemouth.

And apparently well defended ;)

But not against frying pans.
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Post by: mirth on February 25, 2019, 12:30:52 PM
I'm only a few miles up river from Tynemouth.

And apparently well defended ;)

But not against frying pans.

that's what the C-whiz is for
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 25, 2019, 12:31:36 PM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1100085594435321860
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Post by: bbmike on February 25, 2019, 01:14:53 PM
^That's a cool pic that led me down a rabbit hole where I found this:

Eugene Ely made the first carrier takeoff on November 14, 1910 (https://www.businessinsider.com/eugene-ely-navy-launched-plane-from-ship-for-first-time-in-1910-2017-11)

(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5a0b1dd83dbef471018b5e1b-750-580.jpg)

Man, history is addictive.  :bigthumb:
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Post by: Staggerwing on February 26, 2019, 08:52:42 PM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1100085594435321860


 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 27, 2019, 12:37:40 PM
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French SSBN Le Terrible


(https://i.imgur.com/D1YcZbk.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on February 27, 2019, 09:21:18 PM
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USS Hornet (CV-12) at anchor in Berth X-12, Majuro Lagoon, Marshall Islands, 12 May 1944

(https://i.imgur.com/CYbQa4N.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on February 27, 2019, 09:49:07 PM
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USS Sea Poacher (SS-406) tows a disabled ZX-11 airship during a 22 hour rescue which started out as a training attack by the airship on the submarine. July 1952


(https://i.redd.it/644u500to1j21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on February 28, 2019, 04:15:00 PM
https://twitter.com/severeweatherEU/status/1101228686693543937
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Post by: bob48 on February 28, 2019, 04:16:19 PM
Stuff that! I get seasick watching my rubber duck in the bath,
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Post by: mirth on March 01, 2019, 01:06:25 PM
The USN will not be bringing back any of the Perrys   :(

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a26448230/navy-wont-bring-back-mothballed-ships/
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Post by: mirth on March 02, 2019, 10:18:31 AM
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Battleships of the Sixth Battle Squadron at Brest, France, on 13 December 1918


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7427/16346944206_83a7344e17_o.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on March 05, 2019, 07:38:13 AM
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Remnant of Russian Imperial Fleet - Cruiser "Aurora" in Saint-Petersburg


(https://i.redd.it/wopusqn5n9k21.jpg)
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Post by: Sir Slash on March 05, 2019, 10:35:24 PM
Would that be the, 'Aurora Borealis' in the sky behind her then?  ;D    Nope, just smog.
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Post by: mirth on March 06, 2019, 12:15:08 PM
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Model showing a Vietnam-era conversion of USS New Jersey (BB-62) having been converted into an amphibious assault vessel


(https://i.imgur.com/gMtlgVs.jpg)


http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/misc/whatif/tinian-350-rw/rw-index.html
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Post by: mirth on March 06, 2019, 01:24:15 PM
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Castles of Steel, an imposing HMS Nelson leads another battleship


(https://i.redd.it/aj8uw523bck21.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on March 06, 2019, 01:25:33 PM
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Anti-aircraft gun crews aboard Light Carrier USS Langley roll with the ship in heavy seas in the South China Sea, 18 January 1945.


(https://i.redd.it/ch7pnkokifk21.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on March 06, 2019, 01:28:01 PM
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A view from atop USS John F. Kennedy (CVA/CV-67) island structure of F-14A Tomcat aircraft from Fighter Squadron 14 (VF-14) and Fighter Squadron 32 (VF-32) on the ship's flight deck. Time period in question is during her deployment to the Red Sea in support of Operation Desert Shield.


(https://i.redd.it/6unldjzmifk21.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on March 06, 2019, 03:26:48 PM
That picture of the Nelson is impressive.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 08, 2019, 11:02:34 AM
https://twitter.com/Battlefields/status/1104049388178018304
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 08, 2019, 02:09:00 PM
https://twitter.com/Battlefields/status/1104094570688720896
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Post by: bob48 on March 08, 2019, 02:39:14 PM
Interesting  :bigthumb:
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Post by: Sir Slash on March 08, 2019, 03:39:31 PM
Those are ironclad specs too. Literally.
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Post by: bbmike on March 08, 2019, 03:44:19 PM
Those are ironclad specs too. Literally.

I would have bet money you were going to make a comment about the 'submerged end'. (http://www.aarcentral.com/emoti/HideEyes.gif)
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Post by: mirth on March 11, 2019, 07:24:05 AM
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HMS Barham at Scapa Flow, 1917, with other battleships and cruisers of the Grand Fleet. Note triangular fabric pieces fitted to her masts and funnels as anti-rangefinding camouflage.


(https://i.imgur.com/KYRLn2D.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on March 11, 2019, 07:28:29 AM
Impressive sight.
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Post by: mirth on March 11, 2019, 10:39:59 AM
https://twitter.com/WarshipPorn/status/1105115251173965828
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Post by: mirth on March 11, 2019, 10:40:54 AM
Impressive sight.

I'd never seen those "camouflage" pieces before.
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Post by: BanzaiCat on March 11, 2019, 11:20:40 AM
https://twitter.com/WarshipPorn/status/1105115251173965828

LOL...can just see him thinking, "f*cking recruiter...'see the world' he said, now look at me, a glorified landscaper drying a friggin' deck..." ;D
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Post by: mirth on March 11, 2019, 11:27:30 AM
I was thinking that's probably a $125,000 leaf blower
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Post by: BanzaiCat on March 11, 2019, 11:28:29 AM
Gotta pay for Area 51 somehow.  :crazy2:
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Post by: Sir Slash on March 11, 2019, 11:57:48 AM
I thought all the new Navy leaf blowers were hypersonic now?  :P
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Post by: BanzaiCat on March 11, 2019, 12:30:00 PM
Like blowing HOT AIR is a problem for the gub'mint, amirite?

Oh God, now I'm sounding like Sir Slash.  ;D
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Post by: Sir Slash on March 11, 2019, 03:45:52 PM
Urite aww write.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: trailrunner on March 11, 2019, 03:53:54 PM
Before I left Navy programs, I proposed a laser leaf eradicater.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 11, 2019, 04:00:24 PM
Before I left Navy programs, I proposed a laser leaf eradicater.

And they didn't go for it?!
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Post by: BanzaiCat on March 11, 2019, 04:23:18 PM
Probably stole the idea and pretended it was theirs all along.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 11, 2019, 04:51:24 PM
https://twitter.com/probingthepast/status/1105208894979260418
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on March 11, 2019, 04:53:44 PM
Wow! Not seen that before. Some concentrated bombing there.
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Post by: mirth on March 11, 2019, 04:56:51 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_battleship_Tirpitz#Operation_Catechism


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A force of 32 Lancasters from Nos. 9 and 617 Squadrons dropped 29 Tallboys on the ship, with two direct hits and one near miss

32 Lancs. Ouch.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on March 11, 2019, 05:04:20 PM
Quite a story.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: trailrunner on March 11, 2019, 05:04:29 PM
Before I left Navy programs, I proposed a laser leaf eradicater.

And they didn't go for it?!

It wasn’t expensive enough.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on March 11, 2019, 06:49:02 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_battleship_Tirpitz#Operation_Catechism


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A force of 32 Lancasters from Nos. 9 and 617 Squadrons dropped 29 Tallboys on the ship, with two direct hits and one near miss

32 Lancs. Ouch.


There was a previous attack on the Tirpitz by Fleet Air Arm Fairey Barracudas that caused significant damager to the Tirpitz. The Barracudas were escorted by (of all things) FAA-flown Wildcats, Hellcats..., and Corsairs! I'm betting Bob already knew this.  ;)
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Post by: bob48 on March 11, 2019, 06:51:07 PM
Actually, no, I didn't know until I read about it after mirth posted. Its a very interesting story.
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Post by: mirth on March 11, 2019, 07:21:40 PM
It took something like 9 tries for the RAF to sink the Tirpitz. 32 Lancs with Tall Boys though...
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Post by: Sir Slash on March 11, 2019, 07:45:50 PM
I thought Bob was in that raid that killed the Tirpitz. I thought he rode one of the bombs down sitting astride it with his moustache serving as a rudder. Tell me it's still true.
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Post by: bob48 on March 11, 2019, 07:51:26 PM
ROFL  :)
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Post by: besilarius on March 11, 2019, 08:15:52 PM
An earlier effort by X craft minisubs, came so close.
When one of the X craft crew got out of their sinking boat, he clambered onto a buoy, looked around and there was Tirpitz - undamaged.
"It was so tiresome."
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 13, 2019, 07:55:22 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/magazine/uss-wasp-lost-world-war-ii-aircraft-carrier.html
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on March 13, 2019, 07:59:46 AM
Some story - I didn't know about that. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 13, 2019, 11:41:11 AM
https://twitter.com/PHDockyard/status/1105854755115597829
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Post by: bob48 on March 13, 2019, 11:47:31 AM
Seems odd now, but I remember when the Pensioners were all men from WW1, but now, these guys are from WW2 and the  Korean War.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 13, 2019, 11:59:26 AM
Yeah, I still struggle to wrap my brain around most of our Vietnam Vets being in their 60s and older now.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on March 13, 2019, 12:00:40 PM
Tempus fugit and all that.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 13, 2019, 12:08:02 PM
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HMS Cornwall off Shanghai in February 1932


(https://i.imgur.com/hiSstpR.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 13, 2019, 03:14:44 PM
https://twitter.com/VulcanInc/status/1105876678591635456
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 15, 2019, 10:59:41 AM
https://twitter.com/WarshipPorn/status/1106568920763453442
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 17, 2019, 11:58:04 AM
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Aircraft carrying cruiser project 1143.4 "Baku"


(https://i.redd.it/mcwht2lfohm21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 17, 2019, 12:00:13 PM
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USS Long Beach CGN-9


(https://i.imgur.com/Oh6jgnk.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on March 18, 2019, 07:17:42 AM
USS Stiletto.  another experimental torpedo boat.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 18, 2019, 05:52:18 PM
The USN is looking to retire six Ticos

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2019/03/18/once-again-the-us-navy-looks-to-scrap-its-largest-combatants-to-save-money/
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on March 18, 2019, 07:35:32 PM
NO! First the Prowlers, then this.  :nope:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: ojsdad on March 20, 2019, 07:53:17 PM
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/heres-crazy-idea-european-union-aircraft-carrier-47702
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 21, 2019, 02:14:07 PM
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Oliver Hazard Perry class guided missile frigates USS Clifton Sprague (FFG-16) and USS Flatley (FFG-21), Bath, Maine, 10 February 1981


(https://i.redd.it/t117rll4ygn21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 23, 2019, 09:13:35 PM
wow  :o

https://abcnews.go.com/International/norwegian-cruise-engine-failure-off-norway-coast-prompts/story?id=61894958 (https://abcnews.go.com/International/norwegian-cruise-engine-failure-off-norway-coast-prompts/story?id=61894958)


https://twitter.com/alexus309/status/1109537029912711168
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on March 23, 2019, 09:21:29 PM
As long as the bar stayed open....
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on March 23, 2019, 09:29:25 PM
I'll bet the ship's dramamine supply didn't last long.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on March 23, 2019, 11:18:21 PM
That's a little too much, 'Viking' for my tastes, thank you.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 24, 2019, 12:49:20 PM
https://twitter.com/Lompemann/status/1109651719905046530
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 25, 2019, 01:38:26 PM
JS Kaga


(https://i.imgur.com/B4dbI0I.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on March 25, 2019, 06:39:25 PM
An earlier Kaga.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on March 25, 2019, 07:28:54 PM
And smaller.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on March 25, 2019, 07:56:05 PM
Shorter only by a foot and a half though, and the IJN Kaga displaced nearly twice the water than the JS Kaga does.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 25, 2019, 08:00:40 PM
Nerd!!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on March 25, 2019, 08:19:20 PM
When yuh point yer finger at me, there's three more pointing' back at you...
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on March 25, 2019, 11:37:20 PM
Hope that's his finger he's pointing at you.  ::)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on March 26, 2019, 06:23:53 AM
Well hello there sailor!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on March 26, 2019, 10:22:55 AM
 :ROFL:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on March 26, 2019, 10:29:00 AM
Well hello there sailor!

Bonsoir matelot?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 26, 2019, 01:19:35 PM
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USS Philippine Sea (CV-47), USS Barton (DD-722), and USS Iowa (BB-61), operating in the Sea of Japan, off Korea, during replenishment operations, 1 July 1952


(https://i.imgur.com/nzktKUW.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on March 26, 2019, 02:15:03 PM
Now THAT was a navy.  :rockon:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on March 27, 2019, 07:21:45 AM
USS Monongahela, 1902.

As late as World War I, there were still significant numbers of sailing ships used in commerce.  They were cheap and reliable.  Being slow, they couldn't even run from Uboats. 
Count Felix von Luckner's Seeadler partly got through the english blockade because his ship was a sailing vessel.  Who would try commerce raiding in that?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on March 27, 2019, 08:02:58 AM
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Amagi, capsized in Kure harbor, 1945

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/IJN_carrier_Amagi_capsized_off_Kure_in_1946.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 27, 2019, 10:26:39 AM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/27166/navys-troubled-new-carrier-delayed-again-as-power-plant-issues-become-a-concern
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on March 31, 2019, 07:55:14 PM
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The Royal Australian Navy frigate HMAS Newcastle (FFG 06) transits alongside the aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69)


(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8121/9017055121_b466d5c073_o.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on April 01, 2019, 07:55:51 AM
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Soviet Tupolev G-5 motor torpedo boat in the Black Sea during WW2


(https://i.redd.it/ehmnsb4bsmp21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 01, 2019, 11:56:46 AM
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USS Wasp in the Philippine Sea, 27 March 2019. She has F-35B Lightnings and MV-22B Osprey on deck.


(https://i.redd.it/1vunz2720op21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on April 01, 2019, 10:52:03 PM
Pretty!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 02, 2019, 01:59:48 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/27253/u-s-amphibious-assault-ship-in-south-china-sea-with-unprecedentedly-large-load-of-f-35bs
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 08, 2019, 07:38:02 PM
This is an excellent read

https://usnhistory.navylive.dodlive.mil/2019/03/18/the-oerlikon-20-mm-the-right-tool-for-the-job/
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on April 09, 2019, 07:29:05 AM
Good article.
In regards to the Chicago Piano, one of it's flaws was it's fuse.
this part was designed by Arleigh Burks, who had a great role to play in the Pacific.  He ended his career as the only two term CNO.
It's hard to imagine him designing the fuse of an AA round, but in those days all Academy graduates were trained as engineers and rotated through positions as such.
He admitted in his biography, that this work on the Piano was the very worst job he ever did.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: ojsdad on April 09, 2019, 09:48:01 PM
https://twitter.com/thewarzonewire/status/1115792963018219520
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 11, 2019, 07:09:03 AM
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Austro-Hungarian warships at sea, June 9, 1915


(https://i.redd.it/yu8vdgz50mr21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 11, 2019, 09:08:01 AM
https://twitter.com/probingthepast/status/1116325690289340416
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bayonetbrant on April 11, 2019, 12:25:13 PM
https://warontherocks.com/2019/03/samson-the-carrier-and-goliath-the-amphib-twin-giants-of-a-compromised-fleet-architecture/ (https://warontherocks.com/2019/03/samson-the-carrier-and-goliath-the-amphib-twin-giants-of-a-compromised-fleet-architecture/)



Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 12, 2019, 11:37:51 AM
https://twitter.com/WarshipPorn/status/1116726835658788865
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on April 12, 2019, 11:51:59 AM
NICE!!!  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bayonetbrant on April 14, 2019, 02:13:49 PM
https://amp.businessinsider.com/marines-test-lightning-carrier-concept-in-the-south-china-sea-2019-4
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 14, 2019, 02:23:16 PM
https://amp.businessinsider.com/marines-test-lightning-carrier-concept-in-the-south-china-sea-2019-4 (https://amp.businessinsider.com/marines-test-lightning-carrier-concept-in-the-south-china-sea-2019-4)


Yep. This is the coming thing for naval aviation. Those baby carriers the Marines have are going to get a lot of work going forward.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 14, 2019, 03:17:50 PM
https://usnhistory.navylive.dodlive.mil/2019/04/12/when-heritage-meets-initiative-the-story-of-samuel-b-roberts-ffg-58/
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: ojsdad on April 15, 2019, 03:11:31 PM
https://warontherocks.com/2019/03/samson-the-carrier-and-goliath-the-amphib-twin-giants-of-a-compromised-fleet-architecture/ (https://warontherocks.com/2019/03/samson-the-carrier-and-goliath-the-amphib-twin-giants-of-a-compromised-fleet-architecture/)

I don't think guy makes a lot of sense, except for using the America class LHA's a mini carriers and perhaps not needing as many super carriers.  I think, for the most part, no one has an air force that could challenge a squadron or two of F-35's for air superiority, outside of Europe, the Middle East, and Eastern Asia.  Those three areas, we have a pretty significant air force presence already, so not sure there is a large need for super carriers.  He also bemoans the navy not having any carrier launched drones, except for a tanker.  But if those drones need a catapult to launch, then the America class will not work, as they don't have those.  I'm sure a new, small carrier class with catapult capability, could be built.  He also complains about he short range of the F-35's, but they have a longer range than the MQ-9 Reapers.  Yes, the Navy's X-48 experimental combat drone has a longer range, but they need a catapult to launch.

Then he really goes off the rails talking about a frigate with well deck and needing to be multi mission.  The Perry's were multi mission, anti sub, anti air, and anti surface.  And I really don't want my gator freighters chasing subs or surface combatants.  I've no problem with putting VLS launcher on ships like the San Antonio's, but they should be adding that fire power to their escorts, not sitting out there by themselves as the primary surface combatant.

Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: ojsdad on April 17, 2019, 07:43:36 AM
https://twitter.com/CcibChris/status/1118077030623522816
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on April 17, 2019, 07:51:05 AM
ROFL!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on April 17, 2019, 08:01:12 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ea/68/03/ea6803cdd3539ccfc140fc3e18ef13ff.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Barthheart on April 17, 2019, 08:21:34 AM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on April 17, 2019, 11:35:08 AM
Oh! They got a new canoe!  :applause:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 17, 2019, 12:25:44 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/27510/german-and-canadian-firms-developing-seaspider-rocket-powered-anti-torpedo-torpedo
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 19, 2019, 11:37:03 AM
Quote
USS Brooklyn (ACR-3) - 1899


(https://live.staticflickr.com/286/33455355446_89f884480e_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 19, 2019, 12:06:55 PM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1119269529778049030
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on April 19, 2019, 12:44:33 PM
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USS Brooklyn (ACR-3) - 1899


(https://live.staticflickr.com/286/33455355446_89f884480e_o.jpg)

Hipster...
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 24, 2019, 03:24:59 PM
https://twitter.com/WarshipPorn/status/1121132439659864064
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on April 24, 2019, 03:45:59 PM
By heck lad, its a big 'un!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 24, 2019, 03:50:32 PM
Big contract too

https://news.usni.org/2019/04/23/vt-halter-marine-to-build-new-coast-guard-icebreaker
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on April 24, 2019, 04:00:11 PM
Very impressive! It'll be interesting to get further details such as tonnage / complement and so forth.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on April 24, 2019, 08:05:48 PM
https://www.dcms.uscg.mil/Our-Organization/Assistant-Commandant-for-Acquisitions-CG-9/Programs/Surface-Programs/Polar-Icebreaker/
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 24, 2019, 08:52:38 PM
Good details here:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/27647/behold-americas-new-and-desperately-needed-heavy-icebreaker
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on April 25, 2019, 06:02:52 AM
Nice! Thanks for the links, gents,
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 25, 2019, 08:33:35 AM
https://twitter.com/USNHistory/status/1121390913195057153
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 25, 2019, 11:55:45 AM
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/chinas-nightmare-how-us-navy-could-sink-its-prized-aircraft-carriers-53337
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: ojsdad on April 26, 2019, 04:14:04 PM
https://twitter.com/NavyLookout/status/1121858334422908929
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 28, 2019, 12:55:50 PM
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USS Arkansas (CGN-41), a Virginia-class nuclear-propelled guided-missile cruiser, passing close along the starboard side of the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise in the Pacific Ocean on 9 April 1986


(https://i.redd.it/1neijpl8c0v21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 28, 2019, 12:58:03 PM
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Helicopter carrier "Leningrad", project 1123, visited the city of Leningrad. July, 1980


(https://i.redd.it/kt3g3x3310v21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 28, 2019, 12:59:14 PM
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Ekaterina II-class pre-dreadnought battleship Chesma


(https://i.redd.it/2cu0yyaxxzu21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 29, 2019, 10:48:39 AM
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HMS Indomitable in a pre-war image, location unknown.


(https://i.imgur.com/D8WBPwG.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 29, 2019, 10:50:14 AM
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Austrian Monarch class coastal defense battleship,1907


(https://i.redd.it/gljrnv1ev1v21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on April 29, 2019, 11:32:32 AM
VERY NICE!  :applause:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 29, 2019, 12:22:05 PM
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USS Saratoga (CV 3)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/5754/29994361603_6771c333a9_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on April 29, 2019, 01:59:20 PM
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Submarine "Prince Vladimir" of Project 955A during tests, 2018.


(https://i.redd.it/yu6k7amp78v21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 01, 2019, 11:14:22 AM
https://twitter.com/WarshipPorn/status/1123605368804904960
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on May 01, 2019, 01:25:46 PM
That USS Atlanta's a fetching, little thing isn't she? Anybody know if she's single?  :dreamer:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 01, 2019, 01:41:03 PM
Her 16 5-inch guns made life on any Japanese aircraft that came in range.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 01, 2019, 02:29:53 PM
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USS Iowa (BB-61),wearing a measure 32a /1B camouflage design, entering Majuro on 4 February 1944, taken by the Natoma Bay (CVE-62).


(https://i.redd.it/4fja41cjsmv21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 02, 2019, 08:23:57 AM
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Close up view of aft broadside batteries of Austro-Hungarian Tegetthoff class dreadnought battleship in firing position during gunnery practice


(https://i.redd.it/kftivrnn2sv21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 02, 2019, 08:26:02 AM
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HMS Devastation (1871) the 1st RN class of ocean-going capital ships that did not carry sails and had all guns on top of the hull (4 12" -305 mm- 35-ton muzzle-loading rifles, later replaced in 1891 by 10" -254 mm- breech-loading rifles)


(https://i.redd.it/l76wgwpj0sv21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 02, 2019, 08:26:49 AM
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Cleveland-class light cruiser USS Biloxi (CL-80) catapults a Curtiss SO3C floatplane while on shakedown, circa October 1943. USN photo.


(https://i.redd.it/yrb2fr7qzpv21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 02, 2019, 09:05:51 PM
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Spanish cruiser Novarra after her modernization following the civil war likely around 1938/39.


(https://i.redd.it/zc99naobsvv21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on May 04, 2019, 09:57:07 AM
USS Menge after taking a german accoustic torpedo.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 04, 2019, 07:44:12 PM
(https://i.redd.it/53ncwjgyk9w21.png)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on May 04, 2019, 07:57:35 PM
^Very Steampunk-y. Who is she?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 04, 2019, 08:07:02 PM
^Very Steampunk-y. Who is she?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ironclad_Marengo
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on May 04, 2019, 08:25:57 PM
She seems to have been extensively altered in the time between the wiki page model's configuration and that in the pic you posted.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on May 04, 2019, 08:28:01 PM
It's a Warhammer thing.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on May 04, 2019, 09:37:57 PM
It's a Warhammer thing.

The version in Mirth's pic is definitely more butch.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 05, 2019, 01:15:39 PM
She seems to have been extensively altered in the time between the wiki page model's configuration and that in the pic you posted.


Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 05, 2019, 01:22:37 PM
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French coastal "battleship" Tonnerre class 1875-1905


(https://i.redd.it/bhvcfddfb9w21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 05, 2019, 01:29:45 PM
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HMS Barham


(https://i.imgur.com/334dlLd.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 05, 2019, 01:33:01 PM
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SMS Schleswig-Holstein.(1905) Last German pre dreadnought battleship


(https://i.redd.it/8vsah8kem7w21.png)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 05, 2019, 01:34:04 PM
(https://i.redd.it/z9elidwt33w21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 05, 2019, 01:35:08 PM
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HMAS Dechaineux (SSG-76), HMAS Waller (SSG-75) and HMAS Sheean (SSG-77)


(https://i.redd.it/zql7crkmm7w21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 05, 2019, 01:39:20 PM
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Ex- USS Charles F. Adams Looking a Little Worse for Wear at Naval Inactive Ship Maintenance Facility (NISMF) Philadelphia


(https://i.imgur.com/6EkYM3X.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on May 05, 2019, 04:06:21 PM
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SMS Schleswig-Holstein.(1905) Last German pre dreadnought battleship


(https://i.redd.it/8vsah8kem7w21.png)

IIRC, that ship fired the very first shots of WW2.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on May 05, 2019, 04:34:56 PM
Yep, you're right - I remember reading that.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: ojsdad on May 05, 2019, 06:27:29 PM
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Ex- USS Charles F. Adams Looking a Little Worse for Wear at Naval Inactive Ship Maintenance Facility (NISMF) Philadelphia


(https://i.imgur.com/6EkYM3X.jpg)

Drove past there a few months ago. Very depressing.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on May 05, 2019, 06:46:10 PM
Nah, that'll buff right out.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 06, 2019, 09:56:32 AM
https://twitter.com/WarshipPorn/status/1125396325066002433
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 06, 2019, 07:33:37 PM
...or awaiting kicking some ChiCom butt, perhaps?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 06, 2019, 07:51:50 PM
I wish
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on May 06, 2019, 07:55:05 PM
Second pic up, is the Adams sitting next to a Ticonderoga-Class?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 06, 2019, 08:07:22 PM
Second pic up, is the Adams sitting next to a Ticonderoga-Class?
Looks like. We've been retiring the early Ticos too.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 06, 2019, 08:34:36 PM
So the whole railgun upgrade project...that's dead and going nowhere, right? Last I recall, the Navy tanked it because it wasn't working right and was way too expensive.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 06, 2019, 08:44:17 PM
So the whole railgun upgrade project...that's dead and going nowhere, right? Last I recall, the Navy tanked it because it wasn't working right and was way too expensive.

USN has been very quiet about it. The ChiComms have been pursuing the tech, but they are always more about show than actual operational weapons
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 06, 2019, 08:49:53 PM
Well, hopefully we'll never need to worry about actually seeing such systems fired in anger against the Chinese.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: trailrunner on May 06, 2019, 09:13:02 PM
So the whole railgun upgrade project...that's dead and going nowhere, right? Last I recall, the Navy tanked it because it wasn't working right and was way too expensive.

Railgun was one of those sexy new technologies that we were chasing when we didn't have anything better to do.  But then one day we realized that we had been neglecting our anti-ship missiles, and now that's where most of the Navy's focus is going (rightfully so).  There's probably some S&T funding for railgun to keep it alive (I know the Army has some).

I have this idea that we should turn the DDG-1000 class into S&T labs.  Put a railgun on one ship, and put a laser on another.  Not sure what I'd do with the third.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 07, 2019, 09:15:39 AM
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View from the bridge on two forward triple turrets of Tegethoff class dreadnought battleship, exact date unknown


(https://i.redd.it/z1qtybpo4sw21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 07, 2019, 04:53:48 PM
https://twitter.com/WarshipPorn/status/1125865972282343424
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on May 08, 2019, 07:28:00 AM
In regards to the Tegetthof BBs, they were done really cheap.
We've all seen that video of one turning turlte with loads of sailors running over the bottom of the ship.
Reason was the lack of internal water tight divisions.  Small ships, like Forrest Sherman DDs, had five watertight spaces.  If three remained unbreached, the ship had positive buoyancy.
The Tegetthofs had not even that.  One torpedo was all it took.
Also, they skimped on the turret ventilation.  They couldn't fire consistently for over ten minutes, or the crew began to pass out from lack of oxygen.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 09, 2019, 01:49:52 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/27913/royal-navy-sub-appears-in-gibraltar-equipped-with-a-wake-detection-system
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 14, 2019, 12:23:48 PM
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A water spout forms as the aircraft carrier USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) transits the Atlantic Ocean, 12 December 2017


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/171204-N-NO778-0003_%2839067196112%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 14, 2019, 12:25:36 PM
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USS Mississippi followed by USS New Mexico maneuvering for a fleet review at Los Angeles area in 1938


(https://i.redd.it/k4lajiksn5y21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on May 14, 2019, 02:39:31 PM
God, those are both gorgeous pics.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 15, 2019, 10:12:59 AM
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"Lady Lex & Sister Sara" USS Saratoga (CV-3) and USS Lexington (CV-2) off Diamond Head on 2 February 1933. Colorized by Irootoko jr.


(https://i.redd.it/hz0zuwf1ldy21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on May 15, 2019, 07:06:32 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 16, 2019, 08:57:00 AM
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USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67) in dry dock


(https://i.redd.it/fqih433k1ky21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 16, 2019, 09:00:54 AM
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USS Shangri-La (CVA-38) conducts the first successful at-sea cat shot of the enormous A3D Skywarrior on 1 September 1956, off Baja California


(https://i.redd.it/cvn3uds79fy21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on May 17, 2019, 07:09:35 AM
The pic of the Sky Warrior reminded me of this
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 17, 2019, 01:10:25 PM
The B-52 shot is cool, but it's actually very impressive that the Navy was able to operate large aircraft like the Skywarrior and Vigilante off carriers.

The Skywarrior is a beast to be flying off an Essex like that.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on May 18, 2019, 10:26:24 AM
Yes, that was an outstanding design feature that supposedly was argued against by Ernie King.
The design team, that I think was headed by Apollo Soucek, had an idea of what they wanted in the follow ons to the Yorktowns.  Some short cuts were made.  When Lexington had her forward flight deck damaged in Halsey's Typhoon, this had been an accepted weakness in the Essex design.
but the designers knew that the planes would get bigger, and the internal space had to be engineered to accept these future designs.  They particularly noted that the RNs ships would be limited by the hangar space.
King thought they needed a simpler design to get as many carriers as possible built quickly.  Somehow the design team pleased almost everyone.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 21, 2019, 09:28:32 AM
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USS Essex (CV-9) a TBM "Avenger", trailing smoke, returns to the carrier after being hit by Japanese anti-aircraft fire during the Okinawa Operation , 28 March 1945


(https://i.imgur.com/Xvmw2Gh.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 22, 2019, 07:59:13 PM
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USS Maine entering Havana Harbor on January 25, 1898


(https://i.redd.it/5pnlfvo5buz21.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on May 22, 2019, 08:02:21 PM
Got one of it leaving?  :whistle:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 22, 2019, 08:22:19 PM
Got one of it leaving?  :whistle:


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Wreck_of_USS_Maine_being_towed_out_of_Havana_Harbor_-_1913-03-16.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on May 22, 2019, 08:28:48 PM
Dang!  :o  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on May 22, 2019, 10:37:41 PM
Careful what you ask for, Mirth's got pics of....almost.... everything.  ::)   The Mirth Vault.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on May 23, 2019, 07:04:17 AM
Here's a question on pics.
Years ago, my father in law had served on the Essex during World War II and had a Cruise Book with fantastic pictures of the ship's activity in World War II.
In the middle of the book was a two page spread of a photo.  Taken by a back seater (in an Avenger?) of a low altitude fly over of a Japanese ship.  It was a battleship and from the uniquely shaped funnel, it appeared to be Yamato class.
Only saw it once as Charlie was very protective of the book.  After he passed, it went to a family member who is also keeping it under wraps.
It was a very detailed shot of the overflown ship, and I've never seen this picture reproduced anywhere else.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on May 23, 2019, 08:04:08 AM
No idea about the pic but you may find this interesting:

Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 23, 2019, 08:56:34 AM
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SMS Seydlitz in port for battle damage repairs after the Battle of Jutland, on 6 June 1916, after the guns had been removed from her forward gun turret. Note her list to port and the nearly submerged condition of her bow.


(https://i.imgur.com/aPPWVwG.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 23, 2019, 10:43:30 AM
https://twitter.com/RoyalNavy/status/1131554546017296384
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 23, 2019, 12:34:51 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28168/zumwalt-stealth-destroyers-now-part-of-experimental-squadron-along-with-drone-ships
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: trailrunner on May 23, 2019, 05:59:50 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28168/zumwalt-stealth-destroyers-now-part-of-experimental-squadron-along-with-drone-ships

I got to walk around the DDG 1000 last year.  As the article notes, the front part of the ship is for the guns.  In addition to the guns themselves, the ships have a sophisticated, highly automated magazine system below decks.  It was not a trivial thing to develop and build, and it must have cost a fortune, but without the guns, all that investment will be lost.  What a waste.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on May 23, 2019, 07:11:35 PM
Thank you, Stagger.  The photo in my memory looks a lot like the video at the 13 second mark.
Had never seen this video.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on May 23, 2019, 07:19:09 PM
On rare occasion, Staggerwing has been known to be helpful.  >:D
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 23, 2019, 07:56:03 PM
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British Grand Fleet


(https://external-preview.redd.it/u6Pfl8ib7Opx__gMHAOQrbXpMuRR6GlWXNvhR66dI2Y.jpg?auto=webp&s=c889dfc22d768f671e51cc40a82f173dbfaeaaab)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on May 23, 2019, 08:45:10 PM
Thank you, Stagger.  The photo in my memory looks a lot like the video at the 13 second mark.
Had never seen this video.

Glad to be of help  :)


On rare occasion, Staggerwing has been known to be helpful.  >:D

 :P
And getting rarer as more and more brain cells turn to oatmeal. Lean Cuisine for Zombies...
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: ojsdad on May 23, 2019, 10:11:12 PM
https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2019/05/23/when-it-comes-to-missile-killing-lasers-the-us-navy-is-ready-to-burn-its-ships/
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on May 23, 2019, 11:11:51 PM
And next, Lightsabers for boarding actions. I approve.  :applause:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: trailrunner on May 24, 2019, 06:26:20 AM
https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2019/05/23/when-it-comes-to-missile-killing-lasers-the-us-navy-is-ready-to-burn-its-ships/

That was one of my programs until I changed jobs in March.  I was supposed to go to the design review mentioned in the article, but that was the week I started my new job.

I'll just say this: take what Boxall says and divide by 5.  His "burning boats" comment is silly, but it's what gets PEOs promoted (and ships like the Zumwalt built).
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 27, 2019, 08:30:03 AM
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HMS Hermes (R12) in 1968 with a full deck


(https://i.redd.it/ol49muwxhq031.png)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on May 27, 2019, 10:31:18 AM
That's a full deck alright.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on May 27, 2019, 11:33:26 AM
Nice pic!

I recognize those prop planes in the second and third row as AEW-style Fairey Gannets but what is the very first one? It looks a bit different. Some kind of slimmer variant?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 27, 2019, 11:41:04 AM
I think it's the COD variant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Hermes_(R12)#Proposed_international_fleet
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on May 27, 2019, 04:26:56 PM
Ah- like the USN's Greyhound.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 27, 2019, 09:28:43 PM
Current US fleet disposition

https://news.usni.org/2019/05/27/usni-news-fleet-and-marine-tracker-may-27-2019
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on May 27, 2019, 11:49:50 PM
Very cool! Nice find Bryant.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 28, 2019, 10:53:54 AM
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USS Iowa (BB-4) underway circa 1918


(https://external-preview.redd.it/pdUMpkbgQG5xUZ-vqVYjOfVOZyBn-OdeNqPn4p6YPzE.jpg?auto=webp&s=5f42b7050e40fbc9fc92adcdb3e6b3af9b06faf2)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 28, 2019, 11:43:48 AM
if there's no sails, what are all the lines for?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 28, 2019, 11:44:58 AM
if there's no sails, what are all the lines for?

laundry
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 28, 2019, 02:02:15 PM
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Soviet ship loading an SLBM into a Typhoon


(https://i.imgur.com/4XzHoYz.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 28, 2019, 02:03:56 PM
(http://USS Spruance DD963 cruising the Med 2002)


(https://i.redd.it/o2yk4po9fu031.png)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 28, 2019, 02:39:18 PM
if there's no sails, what are all the lines for?

laundry


must be a naked crew out there today
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on May 28, 2019, 07:16:13 PM
if there's no sails, what are all the lines for?

Signal flags. Radio was kinda new-fangled then.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on May 28, 2019, 07:27:44 PM
if there's no sails, what are all the lines for?

Signal flags. Radio was kinda new-fangled then.

Don't engage him on a serious level.

Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 02, 2019, 10:34:05 AM
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Kearsarge-class pre-dreadnought battleship USS Kentucky (BB-6)


(https://i.redd.it/8ko723ajxx131.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 02, 2019, 11:17:34 AM
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Flyover of USS John C Stennis


(https://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/041027-N-6213R-097.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 02, 2019, 11:47:02 AM
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USS Leyte (CV-32). At anchor in Sasebo harbor, Japan, in November 1950, during a break in her Korean War combat operations


(https://live.staticflickr.com/8685/16906171065_7a8ae43bf6_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 04, 2019, 03:08:13 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28367/navys-f-35c-stealth-fighters-wont-fly-from-troubled-new-ford-class-carriers-for-years
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on June 04, 2019, 03:22:48 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28367/navys-f-35c-stealth-fighters-wont-fly-from-troubled-new-ford-class-carriers-for-years

(https://media.tenor.com/images/6f325225aeebe2f01e4fcfeab6d710ff/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 06, 2019, 01:05:18 PM
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The Invasion of Normandy - D-Day, 6 June 1944. Canadian Minesweeping Squadron 31, supported by USS Emmons (DD-457) and USS Doyle (DD-494), cleared a bombardment support lane to the Normandy coast during the night before H-Hour. Watercolor on Paper by Dwight C. Shepler, 1944.


(https://i.redd.it/00aqaq7eoq231.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: ojsdad on June 06, 2019, 06:38:36 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28367/navys-f-35c-stealth-fighters-wont-fly-from-troubled-new-ford-class-carriers-for-years

Doesnt need, those LHA work just fine with Marine F35's.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 07, 2019, 08:10:47 AM
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French light cruiser Glorie in the Hudson River, New York City, during July 1939


(https://i.imgur.com/RvI9H6s.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 07, 2019, 08:28:37 AM
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Battleship-Texas-will-leave-San-Jacinto-13905074.php
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 07, 2019, 11:30:51 AM




https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28417/everything-we-know-about-the-near-collision-between-u-s-and-russian-warships-in-the-pacific
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on June 07, 2019, 11:56:59 AM
They should've thrown the garbage over to them as they passed by. Russkie  :Loser:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: ojsdad on June 07, 2019, 08:38:02 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28425/dude-makes-ballistic-missile-launching-lego-submarine-then-depth-charges-it-to-pieces
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 20, 2019, 06:45:24 PM
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Oregon City-class heavy cruiser USS Rochester (CA-124) in heavy seas, November 1957


(https://i.redd.it/8g90inyqmj531.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 20, 2019, 06:53:20 PM
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Submarine Scout Zero Type Airship SSZ 37 flying above P-class sloop minelaying sloop, PC.61


(https://i.redd.it/7leptmg7hc531.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on June 20, 2019, 07:27:25 PM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 20, 2019, 08:02:25 PM
Thought you would approve  ;)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 23, 2019, 08:39:05 AM
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Bow view of battlecruiser SMS Moltke in rough seas


(https://i.redd.it/ry10e3jtm3631.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on June 23, 2019, 10:54:33 PM
That's a pretty shot.  :applause:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 24, 2019, 01:32:28 PM
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American Arleigh Burke class destroyer and Japanese Izumo class helicopter destroyer, May 2019


(https://i.redd.it/c9tm0vzt37631.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 24, 2019, 01:34:43 PM
HMS Inflexible (1876), in Malta [4500 x 3200]. Information and more pictures in comments.


(https://i.imgur.com/WC8rGuK.jpg)


album -  https://imgur.com/gallery/RR8UfCX
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on June 26, 2019, 01:15:09 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28702/navys-newest-littoral-combat-ship-damaged-after-smacking-into-a-moored-ship-in-canada
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on June 27, 2019, 07:23:47 AM
Boy, that class sure is snake bit.
Thinking about it, the nearest I can recall wa the Knox class frigates.  They were designed with two boilers, one steam turbine, and one offset propellor shaft.
If you had a steam problem, or a boiler issue, this layout made it easier for the ship to lose power.  Most ships had four boilers and two enginerooms with two shafts.
They could operate two boilers all the team, so it was harder for the ship to go dark.
Overall, they seemed to be effective.  They were designed for convoy escort, when we would have sent forces across the Atlantic to fight the Soviets. 
The Knox frigates did occasionally lose power, and it could be very frustrating for the crew to get power back.
Their worst problem was the weak AAW defence.  Once the USS Vreeland was off Latakia, Syria collecting intel on the Syrian naval forces.  Think there was to be a missile test launch.
They didn't like this and four Osa/Komar boats surrounded Vreeland and she was told to leave or else.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on July 11, 2019, 01:22:49 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48949113
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on July 12, 2019, 10:40:12 AM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28933/you-can-buy-one-of-the-armys-most-capable-ships-as-the-service-guts-its-naval-fleets
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on July 12, 2019, 12:19:00 PM
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Japanese destroyers JS Shiranui (DD-120) and JS Suzunami (DD-114) covered in snow



(https://i.imgur.com/dHxv8OP.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on July 12, 2019, 12:23:42 PM
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HMS Commonwealth, 1903, a King Edward VII class battleship with a main battery of 4x12" (305 mm) and a heavy secondary armament of 4x9.2" (234 mm) and 10x6" (152 mm). King Edward VII class units were some of the last pre-dreadnoughts built for the RN before the coming of HMS Dreadnought


(https://i.redd.it/cpfscc1uhn931.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on July 22, 2019, 01:37:41 PM
https://www.pressherald.com/2019/07/22/commander-of-newest-bath-built-ship-part-of-a-rare-class/
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on July 22, 2019, 04:42:04 PM
https://twitter.com/franceintheus/status/1153337946415730688
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on July 24, 2019, 12:39:12 PM
USS Iowa (BB-61), December 1943


(https://i.imgur.com/KMUQ6Th.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on July 24, 2019, 01:18:46 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29122/north-koreas-new-ballistic-missile-submarine-is-a-refurbished-antique
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on July 26, 2019, 10:27:01 AM
South Korea is planning a baby carrier of their own

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29137/south-korea-kicks-off-development-of-a-new-amphibious-ship-designed-to-carry-f-35bs
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on July 26, 2019, 12:30:38 PM
That ought to cause Little Kim to shoot a few advisors/ girlfriends.  >:D
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on July 26, 2019, 12:37:22 PM
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HMS Hood on the St. Lawrence river, anchored before the Citadelle of Quebec and Château Frontenac, 1924.



(https://i.imgur.com/m6x8pZi.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: ojsdad on July 26, 2019, 11:39:05 PM
Drove past the Philadelphia Navy Shipyard a couple of weeks ago, it was very sad to see 2 Aegis cruisers there. Half the haul was pink, didn't even have hull numbers.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on July 29, 2019, 07:08:44 AM
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The end of the USS West Virginia (BB-48), 1960


(https://external-preview.redd.it/RSkzqfpX3mbZsQMdSO-VBmtw69K-N3W21myIADrDcdU.jpg?auto=webp&s=fd036b591962a3c39bc00dea7bb2d57b1d794379)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on August 01, 2019, 03:43:23 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29222/the-navys-trouble-new-carrier-still-only-has-two-working-weapons-elevators
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: trailrunner on August 01, 2019, 05:28:17 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29222/the-navys-trouble-new-carrier-still-only-has-two-working-weapons-elevators

Earlier this year SecNav Spencer said that if the AWEs weren't working by this summer, he'd resign (or should be fired).  I wonder if he's going to honor that pledge?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on August 01, 2019, 05:58:09 PM
Only if he's eligible for retirement.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on August 01, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
Well, to be fair. PRESIDENT Ford's elevators didn't all go to the top floor either.  ::)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on August 09, 2019, 10:30:44 AM
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-08-02/antarctica-polar-star-icebreaker
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on August 09, 2019, 11:37:38 AM
This story will make a great way to break the ice at parties about breaking the ice.  :applause:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 09, 2019, 12:57:25 PM
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-08-02/antarctica-polar-star-icebreaker (https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-08-02/antarctica-polar-star-icebreaker)


that was a really good article
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on August 11, 2019, 11:26:49 AM

https://news.usni.org/2019/08/09/navy-reverting-ddgs-back-to-physical-throttles-after-fleet-rejects-touchscreen-controls

After the Mccain collision, it was determined that the touch screen controls were too difficult, so going back to physical throttles and controls.

However, there are always exceptions to the rule.  When Desron Twelve transited from the East Coast to the Med in August, 1972, we went across with an oiler.
On one refueling event, Manley was pulling away from the oiler and after getting about half a mile away, the refueling detail was secured and the normal watch was set up.
We had been on the port side and after pulling away, the conning officer took the ship to it's assigned screen station.  To get there, the helmsman put on a couple of degrees of right rudder.
Then, just like a movie, the ship lost electrical power.
All the lights went out, the radars, the comm gear.

On the bridge everyone was stunned as the helmsman tried to change his course correction.  The physical link showed that the rudder made no change as he turned the wheel.  With the rudder set in that way, the ship was on a slow motion, gradual turn into the oiler's course.
The oiler had a destroyer on the starboard side, and a new one was hooking up lines on the port, where we had just left.  They couldn't avoid us.
We still had steam, so we banged out six short blasts on the horn, the international signal of emergency maneuvering.  The signalmen hoisted the "Out of control" signal flag, and using a battery powered signal light informed the other ships.
After steering was told to set up the manual steering gear.  This was a difficult process.  Using a hand crank, it took something like 32 turns to adjust the massive rudder by one degree.  It took a really brawny guy to get the rudder to move.
Down in the engineering spaces, things were really spastic.  The battle lanterns automatically kicked on.  The Electrician Mates couldn't see any kind of electrical break or fault.  All they could think of was to open the generator casing and see if something had gone wrong.
Now, the engineering control room was in the forward engine room.  It had an electrical board that the watch used to monitor the output of the electrical generator, and the demand on available electricity.  The after engine room had a backup system just like the main one.
No one could figure out what was going wrong.  The elctrical power was being generated in copious amount, but it was going nowhere.  For some reason, the power wasn't leaving the engine room.  The electricians were utterly dumbfounded and were tracing power lines to look for something, anything.
And ever so slowly, Manley was moving into the path of the oiler and refueling destroyers.  The destroyers were preparing for emergency break aways, which are always a bit dicey.  Too sharp a turn on the rudder, and the wake of the oiler could pull the destroyer's stern in, and cause a collision.
The captain, who was not a good shiphandler, looked at the conning officer, Rob Crawshaw.  Rob just said, "We ate the green weanie."  They were getting ready to put out on the 1MC general announcing system, to prepare for collision.
Then, suddenly with no warning, the power came on!
The helmsman, Seaman Brush I think, twirled the wheel and screamed, "Rudder has control, sir."
After getting on station, we all wondered what had happened.
Later on the midwatch, the OOD was Elmer McDowell.  He was a no nonsense mustang who was Chief Engineer.
What had happned was that when the Refueling Detail was relieved, the electrican on the main board, took off his sound powered phone gear and hung it on a hook.  In his hurry, it slipped off the hook, and fell to the deck.  On it's way down, it snagged a toggle switch.
Flipping the switch, it routed all the electrical power from the Main control board, to the Secondary control board in the after engine room.
And, since the Secondary control was on standby, the barrel switch for electrical output was at zero.  All the electricity went to the after board, and stopped right there.

There is very little in life that is sailor proof.
Oh, and Rob Crawshaw had no recollection of making that comment.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on August 14, 2019, 12:43:32 PM
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Japanese Nakajima B5N “Kate” torpedo bombers fly over the ships of the Japanese Navy in the Truk Islands (Chuuk Islands), including Yamato


(https://i.redd.it/dqlu7sakzfg31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on August 14, 2019, 01:02:43 PM
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HMS Invincible and HMS Illustrious


(https://i.redd.it/hyqgp1xnh5g31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on August 14, 2019, 01:04:35 PM
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The USS Franklin D. Roosevelt sails down the East River after leaving the Brooklyn Navy Yard in 1945.


(https://i.redd.it/zrfcktx9n5g31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 14, 2019, 01:13:27 PM
^ That would make a helluva large framed pic for the office wall.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on August 14, 2019, 01:13:56 PM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on August 14, 2019, 03:08:01 PM
Very Nice!  :applause:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on August 15, 2019, 10:23:20 AM
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Coaling day aboard the USS New York (BB-34) as she lies alongside a Jason Class Collier.


(https://i.redd.it/yzr272oxylg31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on August 15, 2019, 02:51:44 PM
This picture would cause Al Gore to actually make a face.  :o
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on August 15, 2019, 07:25:24 PM
No wonder sailors were always scrubbing the decks all day long.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on August 15, 2019, 07:30:44 PM
Dumping it directly on to the deck is an interesting method.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on August 15, 2019, 07:33:29 PM
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USS Lexington (CV-2) in December of 1929 using her power plant to provide power to Tacoma Washington after a prolonged drought caused hydroelectric power shortages


(https://i.redd.it/8lo5t0t5ymg31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on August 15, 2019, 07:51:56 PM
Dumping it directly on to the deck is an interesting method.

How many OSHA violations can you count?  :2funny:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on August 16, 2019, 12:05:15 PM
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Lord Nelson-class pre-dreadnought battleship HMS Agamemnon.


(https://i.redd.it/7da54v37atg31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on August 16, 2019, 12:59:08 PM
Ohhh. She's pretty! Hey Baby, how about a peek at that full-broadside of yours'?  :dreamer:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on August 18, 2019, 08:24:57 AM
Boy, that left a mark.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on August 18, 2019, 10:48:38 PM
The worst nose job since Michael Jackson's. The last one I mean.  You know, the one where it kept falling off his face.  :notme:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 22, 2019, 11:34:27 AM
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/9jc3v7EAPl51C/source.gif)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 06, 2019, 08:24:20 AM
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French pre-dreadnought 'Jauréguiberry' on sea trials (1896–1897)


(https://i.redd.it/hhqgazzahvk31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 06, 2019, 08:27:49 AM
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Project 1134A Berkut-A/Kresta II class guided missile cruiser Admiral Yumashev


(https://i.redd.it/yint5wnjhpk31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on September 06, 2019, 08:17:01 PM
That Head Net radar is so distinctive.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 06, 2019, 09:07:42 PM
So are the missiles.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on September 08, 2019, 07:38:52 AM
BBC show on Bismarck.  A good compilation of videos and interviews.
Surprising they got John Hillerman (Higgins of Magnum, PI) to narrate.

Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 08, 2019, 07:45:35 AM
Surprising they got John Hillerman (Higgins of Magnum, PI) to narrate.

Particularly since he was a Texan and not remotely English :P
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 08, 2019, 07:54:11 AM
Or maybe they wanted him for his German accent


(https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.gettyimages.com%2Fphotos%2Fpilot-tales-of-the-gold-monkey-airdate-september-22-1982-john-picture-id472922216&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on September 08, 2019, 09:25:54 AM
Surprising they got John Hillerman (Higgins of Magnum, PI) to narrate.

Particularly since he was a Texan and not remotely English :P

Here he is in 1983.



One can only wonder how thick his Texas drawl was before listening to those 100's of hours of Laurence Olivier recordings.

Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on September 08, 2019, 12:46:39 PM
Wow, had forgotten Hillerman was in that wacky, Tales of the Gold Monkey show. 
They were trying for that Raiders of the Lost Ark meets Casablanca vibe.  The Abwehr was all over the south Pacific in this.

Hillerman shows up at about 3:50, but enjoy all those nutty nazis.

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Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 08, 2019, 01:11:17 PM
Had that great Mike Post & Pete Carpenter theme


Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on September 08, 2019, 01:25:54 PM
I'd heard of that show but never watched it. Shame on me.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 08, 2019, 01:34:29 PM
I'd heard of that show but never watched it. Shame on me.

It was fun if you were 10 years old. Doesn't exactly hold up now. Especially because of Stephen Collins.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on September 08, 2019, 01:49:01 PM
I'd heard of that show but never watched it. Shame on me.

It was fun if you were 10 years old. Doesn't exactly hold up now. Especially because of Stephen Collins.

I suppose... but still, it has cartoon Nazis and a Grumman Widgeon!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 08, 2019, 01:54:16 PM
And Roddy McDowall!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on September 08, 2019, 01:55:38 PM
I've always like Roddy McDowall. He was good in Fright Night.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 08, 2019, 02:10:43 PM
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on September 08, 2019, 02:16:35 PM
 :bigthumb:
I never did see the remake.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on September 09, 2019, 07:08:07 AM
USS Savannah (CL 42) Is hit by a German radio-controlled bomb, while supporting Allied forces ashore during the Salerno operation, 11 September 1943.

The bomb hit the top of the ship's number three 6"/47 gun turret and penetrated deep into her hull before exploding. The photograph shows the explosion venting through the top of the turret and also through Savannah's hull below the waterline.

The bomb impact was initially a huge crash, followed seconds later by a massive explosion that lifted the ship right out of the water, and knocked everyone to the deck. The bomb passed through the turret top, killed everyone inside, and exploded at the keel, blowing the bottom of the ship out and causing a huge geyser of water and debris to come out the port side a little forward of the bridge. It covered us with water, and almost immediately smoke started pouring from the hole in the turret. We all figured the magazine would explode at any second, but it didn’t. When the bomb exploded it blew out the keel directly under the magazine, and the water flooded the magazine before it had a chance to go off.

The explosion blew open both the #2 and #1 magazines forward, and killed most everyone in the bow forward of the #3 turret.

The instant flooding of the #3 magazine of the USS Savannah was providential or she likely would have been lost just like the Italian Battleship Roma was lost to a massive magazine explosion after a Fritz X bomb penetrated her turret & magazine.

A motor torpedo boat (PT) is passing by in the foreground at the instant of the explosion of the Fritz X Bomb.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on September 10, 2019, 07:21:42 AM
Thinking about the Fritz X strike on Savannah.
From the description, it sounds like the blast effected the forward part of the ship and didn't go aft.  This probably resulted from a lateral bulkhead in front of the forward engineering spaces.
I'm not familiar with the pre-war internal subdivisions on warships like Savannah.  Post war, destroyers were designed with five watertight spaces.  Forward engine room and boiler room, Damage Control central, and after engine room and boiler room.
These were each seperated by bulkheads that had no openings.  If you were in the aft engine room and wanted to go to the boiler room, you had to go up to the main deck and then down a ladder.
This was based on damage from kamekazes and torpedoes.  As long as three of the spaces had integrity, the ship had positive buoyancy. 
These bulkheads, and the main deck, were the only "armored" areas of the ship.
Don't know what a Brooklyn class cruiser had.
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Post by: mirth on September 11, 2019, 01:06:48 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29744/the-navys-oldest-attack-submarine-goes-out-on-top-after-circumnavigating-the-globe
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Post by: BanzaiCat on September 11, 2019, 01:55:48 PM
688 Attack Sub was a classic game. Hadn't thought about it until I read that ^.

Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 11, 2019, 02:01:12 PM
I still have 688i stashed somewhere


Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on September 19, 2019, 07:45:27 AM
HMS Suffolk.  Bombed in Scapa Flow during the 1940 Norway campaign, took on 1500 tons of seawater.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 20, 2019, 02:22:31 AM
https://twitter.com/HMSQNLZ/status/1174696365533880325
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Post by: besilarius on September 20, 2019, 08:06:03 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7484261/HMS-Prince-Wales-bomb-site-Sailors-board-3-2bn-warship-slam-crew-quarters.html

Prince of Wales leaves Rosyth.
As usual the yard left a lot of spaces unfinished.  That's not unusual. 
The wardroom looks very posh.  Reminds me of the Italian battleship Roma's officer country.  That worked out well.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on September 22, 2019, 07:41:33 AM
French armorec cruiser,. Edgar Quinet, 1914.  She escorted troop convoys to France from North Africa and could have mixed it up with Goeben.
Six stacks, square portholes, forty boilers (!), and a wine tank.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 24, 2019, 07:44:06 AM
https://twitter.com/iAmTheWarax/status/1176141085577568256
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on September 25, 2019, 07:45:11 AM
Newsreel on USS Arizona.  First seven minutes are pre war activities.  Some good pictures of loading procedures on the guns.
An old bosun mate served on Arkansas in the 30s.  They kept the crew busy, because bored sailors with high explosives is a dangerous mix.  Twice a week, the fire hoses were taken topside and scrubbed down, whether they needed it or not.

Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 25, 2019, 12:19:33 PM
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Pskov, a Sierra-class SSN in Kola Bay (Murmansk Fjord) || August 2019


(https://i.redd.it/okmtfnw83lo31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 25, 2019, 12:49:29 PM
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USS West Virginia (BB-48) in the ABSD floating drydock at Espiritu Santo, November 1944.


(https://i.imgur.com/z1kgtex.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 25, 2019, 12:52:14 PM
USS Long Beach being scrapped


(https://i.redd.it/vfppn6vkgjo31.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 25, 2019, 12:56:39 PM
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The UK Carrier Strike Group on Westlant 19 - Queen Elizabeth, Dragon, Northumberland and Tideforce


(https://i.redd.it/ydaosd8v0eo31.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 25, 2019, 12:58:24 PM
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HMS Eagle operating with HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark during the Suez Crisis. October 1956

(https://i.imgur.com/eUYpnnL.jpg)
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Post by: Barthheart on September 25, 2019, 01:12:24 PM
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USS West Virginia (BB-48) in the ABSD floating drydock at Espiritu Santo, November 1944.


(https://i.imgur.com/z1kgtex.jpg)

Great photo! Look at all the AA nests added on.  :o
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Post by: bob48 on September 25, 2019, 01:14:28 PM
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HMS Eagle operating with HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark during the Suez Crisis. October 1956

(https://i.imgur.com/eUYpnnL.jpg)

Those were the days!
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Post by: bob48 on September 25, 2019, 01:15:51 PM
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The UK Carrier Strike Group on Westlant 19 - Queen Elizabeth, Dragon, Northumberland and Tideforce


(https://i.redd.it/ydaosd8v0eo31.jpg)

Seems to be something missing..................Oh yes, aircraft!
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Post by: mirth on September 25, 2019, 01:23:10 PM
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The UK Carrier Strike Group on Westlant 19 - Queen Elizabeth, Dragon, Northumberland and Tideforce


(https://i.redd.it/ydaosd8v0eo31.jpg)

Seems to be something missing..................Oh yes, aircraft!

Coming soon...
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on September 25, 2019, 01:30:07 PM
Ha! we've heard that one before  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 25, 2019, 08:41:07 PM
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Canadian Oberon-class submarine HMCS Onondaga in a precarious position, caused by a mistake during transport to its final resting location at Pointe-au-Père, Rimouski, Québec as a museum ship, 3 September 2008


(https://i.redd.it/bk6g7zwmbto31.jpg)
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Post by: Staggerwing on September 25, 2019, 09:40:38 PM
oops...
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Post by: Sir Slash on September 25, 2019, 11:07:11 PM
That's the way Canadians park their cars when they come down here in the Fall too. Must be an after effect of that beer they have up there.  ::)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on September 26, 2019, 07:17:49 AM
oops...

....left hand down a bit, Number One....................
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 26, 2019, 12:34:10 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29987/this-old-tanker-looks-like-its-about-to-sink-but-its-just-doing-its-job-for-the-marines
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 26, 2019, 04:30:24 PM
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USS Iowa anchored at sunset, 3 Mar 1986.


(https://i.redd.it/kzu8427zoyo31.jpg)
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Post by: Sir Slash on September 26, 2019, 11:24:19 PM
That ship's so pretty I wouldn't even mind being run-over by it.  :dreamer:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 29, 2019, 09:57:21 AM
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FS Latouche-Tréville (D646) in stormy sea


(https://i.redd.it/221p3ei7yip31.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 29, 2019, 10:20:11 AM
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Battlecruisers HMS Hood and HMS Repulse, during the Empire World Cruise 1923-24


(https://i.redd.it/sybqyvm3pep31.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on September 29, 2019, 10:22:54 AM
Look, Bob! Your aircraft carriers CAN carry aircraft!


(https://i.redd.it/v2liei6i9ip31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 29, 2019, 10:53:13 AM
USS Savannah (CL 42) Is hit by a German radio-controlled bomb, while supporting Allied forces ashore during the Salerno operation, 11 September 1943.

The bomb hit the top of the ship's number three 6"/47 gun turret and penetrated deep into her hull before exploding. The photograph shows the explosion venting through the top of the turret and also through Savannah's hull below the waterline.

The bomb impact was initially a huge crash, followed seconds later by a massive explosion that lifted the ship right out of the water, and knocked everyone to the deck. The bomb passed through the turret top, killed everyone inside, and exploded at the keel, blowing the bottom of the ship out and causing a huge geyser of water and debris to come out the port side a little forward of the bridge. It covered us with water, and almost immediately smoke started pouring from the hole in the turret. We all figured the magazine would explode at any second, but it didn’t. When the bomb exploded it blew out the keel directly under the magazine, and the water flooded the magazine before it had a chance to go off.

The explosion blew open both the #2 and #1 magazines forward, and killed most everyone in the bow forward of the #3 turret.

The instant flooding of the #3 magazine of the USS Savannah was providential or she likely would have been lost just like the Italian Battleship Roma was lost to a massive magazine explosion after a Fritz X bomb penetrated her turret & magazine.

A motor torpedo boat (PT) is passing by in the foreground at the instant of the explosion of the Fritz X Bomb.

Diagram detailing the damage done to Savannah


(https://i.imgur.com/orWeHBD.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on September 29, 2019, 11:05:59 AM
Great find!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on September 29, 2019, 11:41:14 AM
Look, Bob! Your aircraft carriers CAN carry aircraft!


(https://i.redd.it/v2liei6i9ip31.jpg)

Photoshopped......................obviously!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 29, 2019, 01:16:31 PM
Look, Bob! Your aircraft carriers CAN carry aircraft!


(https://i.redd.it/v2liei6i9ip31.jpg)


and they've got both of the ones they can afford out there at the same time!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on September 29, 2019, 01:20:08 PM
So that helo in back must be grounded until the next fiscal quarter
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 29, 2019, 01:24:01 PM
Look, Bob! Your aircraft carriers CAN carry aircraft!


(https://i.redd.it/v2liei6i9ip31.jpg)


and they've got both of the ones they can afford out there at the same time!


baby steps
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Post by: Sir Slash on September 29, 2019, 10:49:17 PM
They probably landed there by mistake. After all, I don't see a Union Jack anywhere.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on September 30, 2019, 06:06:51 AM
You're making the assumption that they could fly that far?
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Post by: besilarius on September 30, 2019, 08:34:06 AM
An old tradition is to send the newby's on a search.
They'd be told to get a bucket of steam, three yards of water level line, a quart of relative bearing grease, or something nonexistent like those.  They could spend a day going from space to space.  It was harmless and helped them learn their way around.
On Manley there was a routine that was pure evil.  There were twin brothers on board and they had a great act.
The midwatch bosun would send the messenger to the bosun's locker for a container of relative bearing grease.  When he visited the space, one of the twins would be standing around while the duty bosun would tell the kid he would find the grease in the radio shack.
Dutifully, the kid would go to radio, and the other twin would be standing around, while the watch said to go to after steering.
This went on for about six spaces, and the whole ship would make bets on how many compartments the kid would visit before he realised that one guy was always waiting for him.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on September 30, 2019, 04:56:21 PM
https://twitter.com/cctv_idiots/status/1178635212915449856
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Post by: Sir Slash on September 30, 2019, 11:12:01 PM
Is that, 'The Ballad of the Edmund Fitzgerald' I hear playing in the background?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 01, 2019, 06:05:14 AM
Its a bit...rough.

................after you with the bucket.........................
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on October 01, 2019, 02:40:54 PM
Missouri sends a note to the Republican Guard.

Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on October 04, 2019, 07:41:55 AM
Akagi during the Indian Ocean raid.  On the left is Hiryu and Soryu.  Behind the battlecruisers are Shokaku and Zuikaku.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 04, 2019, 08:22:12 AM
The colorization techniques have vastly improved
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on October 04, 2019, 08:32:03 AM
That's a cool shot.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 04, 2019, 09:35:58 AM
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HMS Dragon conducting sea boat operations, Westlant 19


(https://i.redd.it/r2yzlmzpkdq31.jpg)
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Post by: bbmike on October 04, 2019, 10:02:47 AM
Is the giant Dalek in the center there to ex-term-in-ate?  :P
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Post by: Staggerwing on October 04, 2019, 06:12:44 PM
Akagi during the Indian Ocean raid.  On the left is Hiryu and Soryu.  Behind the battlecruisers are Shokaku and Zuikaku.

I've always wondered if the Akagi's designers were left-handed...


Is the giant Dalek in the center there to ex-term-in-ate?  :P

That's really the top of a disguised OGRE. The rest is below the waterline, treads rolling on the sea floor.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 05, 2019, 03:06:15 PM
https://www.history.navy.mil/news-and-events/news/2019/Hampton_Roads_Naval_Museum_Makes_Final_Preparations_Prior_to_Re-opening.html
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 05, 2019, 07:38:21 PM
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HMS Trenchant and HMS Iron Duke's embarked Wildcat helicopter, Exercise Saxon Warrior 2017



(https://i.redd.it/l07x4g8eisq31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 05, 2019, 09:03:12 PM
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Peresviet-class pre-dreadnought battleship Oslyabya of the Imperial Russian Navy leaving Bizerte, Tunisia — 27 December 1903


(https://i.redd.it/vkoo6uoedsq31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on October 05, 2019, 09:48:07 PM
Her trip to the Far East the following year didn't turn out too well...  :(
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 06, 2019, 06:25:58 AM
Or for any other ships from the 2nd pacific Fleet.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on October 06, 2019, 07:15:46 AM
A few turned out ok. They just started self-identifying as Japanese...
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 06, 2019, 09:03:31 AM
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A Fairey Fulmar fighter taking off from HMS Victorious as the ship lay at anchor in Scapa Flow, March 1942.


(https://i.imgur.com/Cxblefz.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 06, 2019, 09:05:55 AM
Great picture  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 06, 2019, 09:08:40 AM
The IWM has an amazing collection for sure.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 06, 2019, 09:12:08 AM
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USS Wichita (CA-45) serving with the Home Fleet, April, 1942, USS Tuscaloosa (CA-37) follows.

(https://i.imgur.com/HmetmVM.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on October 06, 2019, 10:56:17 AM
Love those Curtis Seagulls!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 06, 2019, 11:11:16 AM
https://twitter.com/MartelleMichael/status/1180811083965243393
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on October 06, 2019, 11:55:32 AM
HMS Nelson equipped with UP Launchers on her main turrets.

UP or "Unrotated Projectile" Launchers were 20 round rocket launchers designed to form a protective barrier against attacking aircraft. Rockets were fired 10 at a time.
the UP rockets were not direct fire weapons.

Once they reached a preset distance from the ship they would deploy a mine suspended from three parachutes via a length of wire. Aircraft that flew into the wires would detonate the mine. The idea was that that launchers could create an aerial minefield around the ship.

However, the minefield was rarely dense enough to provide an obstacle to attacking aircraft. In addition, the slightest wind could disperse the mines over a wide area, even onto friendly ships and even back onto the ship that launched them. Last but not least, the supply of rockets stashed aboard a ship posed a significant fire hazard. During her final battle, HMS Hood took a hit on her boat deck that ignited her UP rockets, causing a large fire.

Though an interesting concept, the weapon was largely ineffective and quickly removed from British ships in 1941 in favor of additional AA guns.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 06, 2019, 12:03:34 PM
Very interesting - I had not read about that before  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on October 06, 2019, 08:28:43 PM
Mines on parachutes. What could go wrong there?  :notme:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on October 06, 2019, 08:32:09 PM
Mines on parachutes. What could go wrong there?  :notme:

Next thing you know someone will think of attaching small incendiaries to swarms of bats...
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 08, 2019, 08:30:58 AM
https://twitter.com/WarshipPorn/status/1181547126863679488
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on October 08, 2019, 08:32:54 AM
Sometimes I think my fo`c'sle is seriously damaged.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on October 08, 2019, 08:51:10 AM
If you would stop bombing it, maybe give it a break for a night or two?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on October 08, 2019, 11:02:18 AM
Plastic surgery has come a long way.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 08, 2019, 11:05:23 AM
Its due to the heat, y'know.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on October 08, 2019, 11:05:57 AM
That's a pretty fo'c'ed-up fo'c'sle all right. From my experience, if your back is broken, you're fo'c'ing all wrong.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on October 08, 2019, 11:36:49 AM
That's a pretty fo'c'ed-up fo'c'sle all right. From my experience, if your back is broken, you're fo'c'ing all wrong.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/cfUMNY4RfGhEc/giphy.webp?cid=790b7611bdde0f8c3790ddbe7fa1ad0f86c8b99ccf5e5736&rid=giphy.webp)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 09, 2019, 08:38:23 PM
(https://i.redd.it/ejmk0ls96jr31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 09, 2019, 08:40:24 PM
(https://i.redd.it/p7ee48hl1lr31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on October 09, 2019, 10:57:40 PM
Looks like the RN budget cuts have resulted in, 'alternative' means of ship-to-shore transportation.  :hehe:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 10, 2019, 06:50:29 AM
No one is actually allowed to get too near the carrier in case they discover that it is actually only an Airfix plastic kit.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on October 10, 2019, 06:54:56 AM
It looks very realistic. The RN must have gotten that SteamGeezer guy on youtube to build it for them.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 10, 2019, 07:08:03 AM
Correct.

...........the bits for the aircraft have not turned up yet, though.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on October 10, 2019, 07:28:20 AM
October 10, 2019. Houston, Texas. Currently...
Our USS Texas now listing 9° ...

Looks like this will end badly.  Past the point where a quick fix will solve the problem.  The longer the state of Texas puts off major repairs, the bigger the final bill will be. 
This is why museum ships can be so hard.  Hull deterioration doesn't stop at the pier.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 10, 2019, 10:25:40 AM
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USS South Dakota and USS Alabama underway in the Atlantic Ocean, 1943. Photo taken from HMS King George V.


(https://i.redd.it/1t9il6d78pr31.png)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 10, 2019, 10:32:29 AM
Good picture  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on October 10, 2019, 10:35:24 AM
Very nice!  :applause:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on October 12, 2019, 10:53:49 PM
Austro Hungarian battleship Szent Istvan sinks on 11 June, 1918.  Sistership Tegetthof standing by.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on October 14, 2019, 05:38:01 PM
USS Nevada (BB-36) wearing her last paint job. Designated as the target ship for "Able" test, she was painted a bright red color to help distinguish her from the other ships. Her color was supposed to allow the bombardier to accurately drop the nuke on her.

However, the bomb was off by 1700 yards and Nevada survived. The second test, "Baker" detonated another nuclear bomb underneath the water. Nevada was damaged, but survived again.

She was then towed to Pearl Harbor to be thoroughly examined and then decommissioned. After this, she was expended as a target. The battleship Iowa (BB-61) and two other warships pummeled Nevada for over an hour. However, Nevada still tenaciously refused to sink. Finally, a torpedo was used to send her to the bottom.

Despite Pearl Harbor, two nuclear bombs, and a bombardment by other battleships, Nevada would not go down quietly.

Now, here's one for the braintrust, an old sea story:
there is a possibility that when she was finally sunk, she may have been sunk with a fortune in silver in her engine room. It was placed there during her rebuild after Pearl Harbor, to replace her corroded copper electrical bus bars, as at the time, copper was in critically short supply. As such, the navy withdrew some two million dollars (in 1942 money) of silver bullion from the US Mint, and had it melted down and rolled out into bus bars. They were then painted to conceal their nature from most of the crew. The chief engineer was given the task of inspecting them frequently to make sure people were not "scraping off a poke for shore leave". However, there was no mention of their recovery prior to the atomic bomb tests...in fact, except for the paint, most everything was left in working condition to judge the overall effect of the bombs on the ship (should she survive). The entire ship was flooded by the wave that engulfed her after the first blast, so if the bars were still present, they would have been too contaminated to recover afterward. It is also possible that they were forgotten about entirely. Sadly, at this point, we will never know, as she sits in some 2 miles of water off Hawaii, and the bus bars would be in the deepest bowels of the ship.
The other question is, if the silver was taken off, was it returned to the Mint?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 14, 2019, 05:46:11 PM
Awesome - thanks for posting that  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on October 15, 2019, 08:31:42 AM
That will leave a mark.
A little wire brush, a little red lead...
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on October 15, 2019, 12:16:16 PM
Must have been my Ex-Wife. She used to park the car the same way.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on October 15, 2019, 07:28:05 PM
That's what you get when you try to use a regular size launch rail with a jumboship.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on October 15, 2019, 11:27:22 PM
Monday at the Homer Simpson Shipyard.  :doh:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 16, 2019, 12:35:25 PM
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Three Akizuki-class destroyers


(https://i.redd.it/65m8p452gvs31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 16, 2019, 12:36:27 PM
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Soviet Kashin class guided missile destroyer Sposobnyy underway in the Sea of Japan, 1982.


(https://i.redd.it/y2boy9k1xvs31.png)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 16, 2019, 12:37:52 PM
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JS Shimakaze (DDG-172) Tokyo Bay 16OCT19


(https://i.redd.it/fvd5x92yaus31.png)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on October 16, 2019, 12:42:16 PM
Someone has an, 'Asian Fetish' going on today.  :-X
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on October 16, 2019, 03:11:59 PM
 The battleship California was launched at Mare Island Naval Shipyard in Vallejo in 1919. The ship failed to stop in the channel and continued across coming to rest in the mud on the Vallejo side, smashing into a dock before stopping.
There were young boys on the pilings, watching the launch.  Seeing the hull bearing down on them, they leaped into the water ahead of the collision.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on October 16, 2019, 03:21:23 PM
That sounds like California all right.  :hehe:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on October 17, 2019, 07:59:09 AM
A collision at sea, can ruin your whole day.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1985-04-13-8501140353-story.html
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 17, 2019, 08:01:10 AM
They wont patch that with fibreglass and duct tape!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 17, 2019, 08:07:27 AM
enough duct tape and blue plastic tarps will fix anything
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on October 17, 2019, 10:44:30 AM
That NEVER would've happened on board the Enterprise with Sulu driving.  >:(   Scotty maybe, but not Sulu.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 17, 2019, 02:04:22 PM
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Damage to USS Tripoli after striking a mine. 1991, Gulf War


(https://i.redd.it/70jdldni02t31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 17, 2019, 02:25:07 PM
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HMS Dreadnought in 1907 as flagship of the Home Fleet


(https://i.redd.it/ycl5lc9is4t31.jpg)
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Post by: Sir Slash on October 17, 2019, 04:07:54 PM
Isn't she pretty. Are you single Darling?  :dreamer:
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Post by: bayonetbrant on October 17, 2019, 10:57:25 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-military-carrier-exclusive-idUSKBN1WW0KM
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Post by: BanzaiCat on October 18, 2019, 08:27:05 AM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-military-carrier-exclusive-idUSKBN1WW0KM

That is concerning, on so many levels. Maybe not for today, or tomorrow, but in 20-30 years...
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Post by: besilarius on October 18, 2019, 09:15:14 AM
When the Essex class carriers were built, there was a lot of unused building capacity left over after World War I and the Great Depression.  We didn't need that much new infrastructure.  This is very troubling.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on October 18, 2019, 09:27:15 AM
The only thing I find encouraging, and the article mentioned this, that the Chinese aren't nearly up on fleet tactics surrounding supercarrier operations, not the way the West is, and especially the U.S. is. We've had decades of experience at it and I can only hope that counts for something.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 18, 2019, 01:56:37 PM
All you have to do is sell 'em the F-35 and we're laughing...................
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on October 18, 2019, 02:01:46 PM
I doubt they'd touch those...they probably sold us most of the electronics that go into 'em  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 18, 2019, 02:12:51 PM
Yeah, you'd have to be daft to buy those.........................oh wait.................
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 20, 2019, 07:14:56 AM
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HMS Trenchant on slipway. 1945


(https://i.imgur.com/MAaZsQ6.png)
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Post by: mirth on October 20, 2019, 07:16:39 AM
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French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle


(https://i.imgur.com/oHQ26N5.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 20, 2019, 07:19:32 AM
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HMS Trenchant on slipway. 1945


(https://i.imgur.com/MAaZsQ6.png)

This is the sub that sank the Japanese heavy cruiser Ashigara
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 20, 2019, 07:34:17 AM
You been watching this, Bob?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0009v3f?fbclid=IwAR1QxyChfN1emiMf4tSykaWrvhDi8iQWFeLV-h9i5dsELY3XHK1p-KzKKHQ
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 20, 2019, 07:37:30 AM
No I haven't. I think the whole thing is a waste of money and effort. Me no happy  :(
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 20, 2019, 07:44:07 AM
Watch the BBC propaganda piece and you'll feel better about the whole thing.
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Post by: bob48 on October 20, 2019, 07:49:12 AM
lol - I doubt it.
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Post by: besilarius on October 21, 2019, 12:46:31 PM
1952, living conditions on an aircraft carrier.

https://www.facebook.com/RankerAnatomicallyCorrect/videos/255521422046332/?t=3
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 21, 2019, 04:51:35 PM
https://twitter.com/WarshipPorn/status/1186384259478622208
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 21, 2019, 05:02:02 PM
 :bigthumb:
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Post by: besilarius on October 22, 2019, 08:18:09 AM
Russia has once more decided to proceed with the long delayed refurbishment and upgrade of its nuclear-powered Kirov class battlecruiser the 28,000 ton Admiral Nakhimov.

https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsurf/articles/20191022.aspx

This is probably more about finding work for shipyard workers and having prestige for Russia, than a real need of the fleet.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 22, 2019, 01:29:38 PM
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Scorched rocket launchers line the deck of the Inshore Fire Support Ship USS LSM(R)-401 following an artillery barrage off the Korean Coast in late 1951



(https://i.redd.it/46kwb60zc3u31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on October 22, 2019, 03:01:58 PM
Nice find!  :bigthumb:
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Post by: bob48 on October 22, 2019, 05:28:26 PM
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on October 22, 2019, 05:36:22 PM
Battle of "Trafalga?"  ???
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 22, 2019, 05:48:09 PM
21st October, 1805.
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Post by: BanzaiCat on October 22, 2019, 05:53:35 PM
I was just being a smart-arse. The text in the video says "Battle of Trafalga" when it's Trafalgar.  ;D

Pretty damned impressive broadsides, though.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on October 22, 2019, 11:28:42 PM
Impressive! I used to know a girl with an impressive broadside but nothing compared to that.  :applause:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on October 23, 2019, 10:53:14 AM
I was just being a smart-arse. The text in the video says "Battle of Trafalga" when it's Trafalgar.  ;D

Pretty damned impressive broadsides, though.

Oh! I just never think of you being a smart-arse, that's why I missed it  ::) :whistle:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on October 23, 2019, 11:09:54 AM
Guess you could say the guy in the video forgot his, 'R' but remembered to cross his, 'T'.  ::)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 23, 2019, 06:44:16 PM
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French Scorpene-class submarine


(https://i.imgur.com/Xl9FYmO.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 23, 2019, 07:03:10 PM
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HMS Queen Elizabeth with 6 British F35Bs embarked


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Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on October 23, 2019, 07:29:28 PM
Look Bob! They got airplanes on board now!  :o
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on October 23, 2019, 07:50:10 PM
And I think I see a Wave Motion Gun.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on October 23, 2019, 08:26:48 PM
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HMS Queen Elizabeth with 6 British F35Bs embarked


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Those master scale modelers never cease to amaze me!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 23, 2019, 08:48:55 PM
 :2funny:
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Post by: bob48 on October 24, 2019, 07:16:57 AM
Photoshopped, again!
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Post by: besilarius on October 24, 2019, 09:02:47 AM
A comparison of British and American anti-aircraft fire control systems in World War II.

This Committee's major conclusion in regards to destroyers was that high level bombers would only be passing the destroyers on their way to strike at capital ships and that they would not be attacking the destroyers directly. An analysis in this report showed that attacking aircraft flying at a height of 5,000 feet and at a distance of 5,000 yards (1,525 m and 4,570 m) would only be 18 degrees above the horizon. For that reason, the Committee concluded that 'future destroyers should not be fitted with a dual purpose armament' and recommended a maximum main gunnery elevation of only 40 degrees.

No analysis of HACS would be complete without a brief mention of the contemporary USA's Mark 37 Gunfire Control System (GFCS), some of which were also supplied to the Royal Navy. In British terms, these were "HA/LA" systems, that is, they were intended for use against both aircraft and surface targets. This system was first introduced into service on the destroyer USS Sims (DD-409) in early 1940 and was quickly adopted for all new US warship construction of destroyer size and larger. Some auxiliaries built pre-war were also equipped with this unit. The Mark 37 GFCS differed from previous US directors by having the analog computer and stable vertical mounted below decks in order to reduce the size and weight of the director itself. An important feature of this system was that AA time fuzes were automatically - and continuously - set in the shell hoists, which not only eliminated a source of human error, but also meant that the rate of fire was not affected by the skill and speed of a human fuze setter, thus allowing faster firing cycles. This feature allowed ships to fire whatever barrels were ready at any given time, again resulting in an appreciably faster rate of fire. This continuous fuze setting also meant that these ships could fire a 'rolling barrage' pattern that followed the aircraft target as it moved through the sky, unlike the 'once and done' barrage pattern.

Full comparison:   https://www.quora.com/Were-British-warships-as-effective-in-thwarting-Japanese-Kamikaze-attacks-as-American-warships-were/answer/Trent-Telenko
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on October 30, 2019, 08:36:20 AM
Famous photo of the Texas colorised.  Very pretty.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 30, 2019, 12:54:41 PM
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1:50 scale cutaway model of dreadnought battleship Viribus Unitis from 1912/1913, Museum of Military History, Vienna



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Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 30, 2019, 12:58:09 PM
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The lead ship of her class of pre-dreadnought battleships, HMS Trafalgar.


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Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on October 30, 2019, 01:04:47 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30728/russia-sends-ten-subs-into-north-atlantic-in-drill-unprecedented-in-size-since-cold-war
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on October 30, 2019, 01:11:44 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30728/russia-sends-ten-subs-into-north-atlantic-in-drill-unprecedented-in-size-since-cold-war

Probably has something to do with this:

New Russian submarine test fires intercontinental missile for first time (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-defence-submarine/new-russian-submarine-test-fires-intercontinental-missile-for-first-time-idUSKBN1X91CF)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on October 30, 2019, 01:13:17 PM
Any bets how many of them will come back?  ::)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on October 30, 2019, 09:07:54 PM
Mark 56 Gunfire Control System.

https://www.eugeneleeslover.com/USNAVY/CHAPTER-26-E.html

One of the reasons radar is better than optical fire control.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on October 31, 2019, 07:55:21 AM
Zuikaku and Kaga, in the background, on course to Pearl Harbor, November. 1941
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on October 31, 2019, 08:17:35 AM
heavy cruisers USS Salt Lake City (CA-25), USS Pensacola (CA-24) and USS New Orleans (CA-32) (listed from left to right) nested together at Pearl Harbor, 31 October 1943. Ford Island is at the left, with the battleship USS Oklahoma (BB-37) under salvage at the extreme left, just beyond Salt Lake City's forward superstructure. Note the radar antennas, gun directors and 8-inch guns on these three heavy cruisers. Two New Mexico-class battleships are visible in the background between Pensacola and New Orleans.
The Treaty cruisers were built to stay within the 10,000 ton limit and were quite limited as a result.  For example, Japanese heavy cruisers, like Ashigara, is now rated as 17,000 tons.  Also, there was a difference of doctrine.  US cruisers were designed for long range action, while the IJN designed for night fighting.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on November 03, 2019, 07:48:46 AM
Fifty miles off Honshu.
Uss Franklin assisted by Light Cruiser Santa Fe.  19 March, 1945.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 06, 2019, 04:10:35 PM
https://twitter.com/WarshipPorn/status/1192185821329272832
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on November 06, 2019, 05:01:32 PM
I recognize that airport! I spent almost four months at Gitmo.  :sigh:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on November 06, 2019, 07:37:51 PM
Was that for being Bin Laden's driver, or were you hiding from an old girlfriend? Or both?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on November 06, 2019, 08:02:52 PM
No, they wanted to take Belgium from me but I refused. I was exiled to Guantanamo and given sovereignty over Cuba. And I was allowed to retain the title of Emperor.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on November 06, 2019, 09:18:49 PM
No, they wanted to take Belgium from me but I refused. I was exiled to Guantanamo and given sovereignty over Cuba. And I was allowed to retain the title of Emperor.

If you'd have taken the deal and not snuck back home one night you never would have ended up on Pitcairn Island in the end. At least everyone knows your name there...
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on November 06, 2019, 11:17:26 PM
I bet that gave you time to work on your tan.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 07, 2019, 07:39:17 AM
Pretty sure most of us are so white, we're reflective.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on November 07, 2019, 07:54:39 AM
Pretty sure most of us are so white, we're reflective.

There are some of us that have been to Origins that know the truth.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 07, 2019, 07:58:14 AM
Yes, some of us have, SEVERAL times. :P
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on November 07, 2019, 08:00:49 AM
You know I'd go if I could, but its a long way to hitch-hike.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 07, 2019, 10:21:20 AM
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French armored cruiser Chanzy, wrecked on the China coast, circa 30 May 1907. She has lighters alongside, probably removing gear in an attempt to get her off, and appears to still have steam up.


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Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on November 07, 2019, 07:45:11 PM
"Damn the coast. Full speed ahead"!  :doh:
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Post by: besilarius on November 09, 2019, 10:26:20 AM
Naval attack on Fort Sumter.
Will Coffey enhanced eighteen photos.  To see the rest
 https://www.facebook.com/1566713610242236/photos/a.2498307613749493/2498308880416033/?type=3&theater

This photo shows at least three monitors and USS New Ironsides at the far right.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 13, 2019, 07:48:00 AM
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Below decks on the HMS Eagle, view taken from lift. The variety of aircraft include, from left above: a Gannet, a Wessex Anti-submarine helicopter, and a Scimitar. Below are Buccaneers, the Navy's low level strike aircraft. Jan 1965


(https://i.imgur.com/LZ9GlTV.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on November 13, 2019, 08:37:47 AM
Good one!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 13, 2019, 09:20:40 AM
I'd love to go back to the IWM someday.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on November 13, 2019, 09:43:04 AM
I've never been :-(
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Post by: mirth on November 14, 2019, 08:58:12 AM
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Artists Conception of the USS United States (CVA-58), the Lead Ship of a new class of Carrier, whose Keel was laid and then cancelled 5 Days later. LIFE Magazine, May 2, 1949


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Post by: mirth on November 14, 2019, 08:59:53 AM
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HMS Bulwark (R08) moored next to the Doge's Palace in Venice


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Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 14, 2019, 09:00:31 AM
I've never been :-(

It's been 30 years for me and I was too young to fully appreciate it.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on November 14, 2019, 09:09:03 AM
OK, lets get it sorted; you'll have to push my wheelchair though.
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Post by: bayonetbrant on November 14, 2019, 09:16:12 AM
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Artists Conception of the USS United States (CVA-58), the Lead Ship of a new class of Carrier, whose Keel was laid and then cancelled 5 Days later. LIFE Magazine, May 2, 1949


So dey keeled da program?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 14, 2019, 09:16:36 AM
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HMS Bulwark (R08) moored next to the Doge's Palace in Venice


(https://i.redd.it/hfppl3kklmy31.jpg)


they could get even closer to the palace this week
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on November 14, 2019, 09:18:33 AM
Yeah, it looked pretty bad from what we saw on TV. There has been some bad flooding in the UK as well, especially in the low lying area's such as Lincolnshire.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 14, 2019, 01:19:20 PM
https://twitter.com/navalhistorian/status/1194761647556059136
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 17, 2019, 08:29:06 AM
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Austro-Hungarian battleship squadron on maneuvers before start of WW1, 1914

(https://i.redd.it/3miry9l8z2z31.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on November 17, 2019, 12:24:17 PM
The Coral Sea was a little different.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on November 17, 2019, 05:51:24 PM
Destroyer Escort USS Fiske broken in two and sinking in the North Atlantic after being torpedoed by German submarine U-804, 2 August 1944.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on November 17, 2019, 05:58:02 PM
Look at all those sailors along the stern railing and sliding down the side of the rolling bow!
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Post by: Sir Slash on November 17, 2019, 11:47:48 PM
Great pic.  :applause:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on November 18, 2019, 05:42:54 AM
There is always something sad about seeing a ship go down, no matter who's it is.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 20, 2019, 06:49:15 PM
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HMS Hermes launching a de Havilland Sea Vixen, more are parked on the right of the pic and few Blackburn Buccaneers can also be seen in the back. 1966


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Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on November 21, 2019, 07:35:37 AM
That is a fantastic picture  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 21, 2019, 09:19:44 AM
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Otvazhny, a Soviet Kashin-class destroyer built for the Black Sea Fleet during the 1960 sinks after a rocket engine ignited and caused an explosion that set the ship on fire. August 30th, 1974.


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Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on November 21, 2019, 09:29:18 AM
Gilliganov!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 21, 2019, 09:51:58 AM
Gilliganov!!!!!!!

 :2funny:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on November 21, 2019, 11:38:33 AM
Wasn't that the only time the Russian Navy actually sank a ship?  ::)  Other than Nuclear Subs I mean.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on November 21, 2019, 11:40:37 AM
It could all be maskirovka............
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 22, 2019, 12:16:00 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31121/how-the-ohio-class-guided-missile-sub-was-born-and-why-theyre-much-more-than-meets-the-eye
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: trailrunner on November 23, 2019, 02:59:29 PM
Not really sure where to put this or how to embed a twitter video, but this is pretty cool.

https://twitter.com/Havenlust/status/1198232753499709442
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 23, 2019, 03:11:47 PM
you have to paste the tweet into the window here in "text" mode, and then make sure there's no "?" on the end of the tweet with anything after it.

sometimes it'll still work if you don't follow those guidelines, but not reliably.

if you do follow them, it works about 99% of the time
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: trailrunner on November 23, 2019, 03:22:13 PM
you have to paste the tweet into the window here in "text" mode, and then make sure there's no "?" on the end of the tweet with anything after it.

sometimes it'll still work if you don't follow those guidelines, but not reliably.

if you do follow them, it works about 99% of the time

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on November 25, 2019, 07:50:35 AM
HMS Coventry rolling over after a missile strike in the Falklands.
She rolled over about twenty minutes after being struck twice.  The Royal Navy training school, HMS Raleigh, took this to heart and in their exercises,  the trainees have to save the ship in about 27 minutes.

In a show of stiff upper lip, the crew in liferafts sang Always Look on the Bright Side of Life by Monty Python.

Have to wonder if they followed that great Royal Navy tradition and cleaned out the rum locker before going over the side.
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Post by: bob48 on November 25, 2019, 09:42:09 AM
I remember it all too well.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: judgedredd on November 25, 2019, 11:03:05 AM
Yep. That and several others. A costly little war money wise for the UK.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 25, 2019, 11:59:50 AM
I have a question for those more in tune with ship classes - I'm doing a basic re-write of an old game (Hunt for Red October). It doesn't explain the different ship classes (e.g., FF, SSN, etc.) so I thought I'd put a brief description (a sentence or two) in there. I was able to garner quite a bit of info online, but one class I'm not certain of is the FFL. I know that's a Light Frigate, but what is a Light Frigate's mission, in one or two sentences, as opposed to a regular FF?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 25, 2019, 07:08:37 PM
I have a question for those more in tune with ship classes - I'm doing a basic re-write of an old game (Hunt for Red October). It doesn't explain the different ship classes (e.g., FF, SSN, etc.) so I thought I'd put a brief description (a sentence or two) in there. I was able to garner quite a bit of info online, but one class I'm not certain of is the FFL. I know that's a Light Frigate, but what is a Light Frigate's mission, in one or two sentences, as opposed to a regular FF?

It is Frigate Light. Must be an old designation because modern frigates are already pretty light types. I imagine they are dedicated ASW ships with little to no Anti-Air/Anti-surface capability

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hull_classifications#F

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirka-class_frigate
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 25, 2019, 07:13:36 PM
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French Richelieu class battleship Jean Bart


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Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 25, 2019, 07:15:25 PM
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HMS Victorious on a visit to New York, early 1960's. In the background is the French Liner Liberte.


(https://i.imgur.com/RjcFYx6.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on November 25, 2019, 07:40:16 PM
Are those Sea Vixens and Scimitars on the flight deck, along with a couple of Gannets?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 25, 2019, 07:42:19 PM
Looks like
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 26, 2019, 03:37:48 AM
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JS KAGA (DDH-184) (left) and JS IZUMO (DDH-183), Tokyo Bay, 26NOV19


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Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on November 26, 2019, 06:37:32 AM
^ One quarter of a Kido Butai.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 26, 2019, 07:27:08 AM
Uh-oh...Kaga, Part 2.  :D
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Post by: besilarius on November 26, 2019, 08:40:23 AM
Banzai, in regards to FFL. I asked a number of people with some knowledge of the fleet.  Here is the most complete answer:

"OK - My guess it is not a USN designation for any real ships - there's never been a FFL-1. I suspect that "light frigate" is a name for a proposal. The Navy is calling the follow-on to the LCS a "frigate", and the " FFG(X)", and some shipbuildears are calling proposals for their own LCS-sized ships "light multirole frigates". Of course, it could relate to some forgotten proposal of years ago."
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 26, 2019, 09:25:24 AM
Thanks mirth and besilarius, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on November 26, 2019, 09:29:55 AM
USS Robin, AKA HMS Victorious, is refueled by USS Cimarron on 12 July 1943. On 27 June, TF14 was redesignated Task Group 36.3 and sailed to provide cover for the invasion of New Georgia (part of Operation Cartwheel).
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 26, 2019, 01:55:27 PM
Thanks mirth and besilarius, much appreciated.

Out of curiosity, what types in the Red October game are designated FFLs? Are they mainly Soviet or are there NATO types?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 26, 2019, 02:02:41 PM
Not sure offhand. It's the HFRO game from 1988 or so. It's not a deep nor heavy game.

Some complaints on BGG about the rules so I decided I might try to reformat it as I have time.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 26, 2019, 02:07:13 PM
BGG has a counter manifest file that shows the FFLs as Soviet types which makes sense as the Sovs built a lot of small ASW types for inshore work.

The HFRO game is decent for what it is - a light modern naval game. I have fond memories of it and the RSR game because they were some of the earliest wargames I played.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 26, 2019, 02:10:29 PM
I'm still trying to find someone to trade their RSR to me on BGG. The closest I've come thus far is a guy that wants either my copy of Star Wars Rebellion or Imperial Assault.  :2funny:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 26, 2019, 02:12:50 PM
I keep an eye out for them at flea market tables and such. They aren't great games, but for 20 bucks I'd snag a copy for the nostalgia.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: judgedredd on November 26, 2019, 05:45:03 PM
I'm still trying to find someone to trade their RSR to me on BGG. The closest I've come thus far is a guy that wants either my copy of Star Wars Rebellion or Imperial Assault.  :2funny:
If I've still got Red Storm Rising up in the loft, you're welcome to it. I don't know what postage would be like though. You mean Red Storm Rising by TSR right? I did have it. I don't know if I sold it at a car boot sale of it's still up in the loft. I'll check and let you know.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Barthheart on November 26, 2019, 06:54:27 PM
If JD can't find his, I got one you could maybe trade for...  8)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on November 26, 2019, 07:58:37 PM
On December 28, 1944, while transporting ammunition to Mindoro, Philippines, a Japanese kamikaze, flying an Aichi D3A "Val", chose the SS John Burke as his target and crashed into Burke at around 1020 hours. Few seconds later it disintegrated in a tremendous explosion. All souls were lost. Several ships nearby were damaged by the force of the blast and flying fragments. One of them sank before it was identified. One of the most powerful non-nuclear explosions in history.


https://www.facebook.com/argunnersmagazine/videos/344589332942325/?t=0
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: trailrunner on November 26, 2019, 08:27:46 PM
^

Holy cow that was a big explosion!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on November 26, 2019, 11:12:38 PM
I'm still trying to find someone to trade their RSR to me on BGG. The closest I've come thus far is a guy that wants either my copy of Star Wars Rebellion or Imperial Assault.  :2funny:
If I've still got Red Storm Rising up in the loft, you're welcome to it. I don't know what postage would be like though. You mean Red Storm Rising by TSR right? I did have it. I don't know if I sold it at a car boot sale of it's still up in the loft. I'll check and let you know.

Yes indeed, RSR by TSR. Well sure, we can certainly look into it if you do, thank you much for looking.  8)

If JD can't find his, I got one you could maybe trade for...  8)


Pretty sure I might have a game or two you'd be interested in, ha.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 27, 2019, 12:02:11 PM
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Aircraft carrier HMS Indefatigable, Queen Charlotte Sound, New Zealand, November 1945


(https://i.redd.it/8t9xc4fbo8141.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on November 27, 2019, 12:33:04 PM
Good picture, that  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 27, 2019, 07:38:17 PM
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Royal Navy's Astute class nuclear attack submarines under construction


(https://i.imgur.com/19HTyiX.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 27, 2019, 07:40:22 PM
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HMS Illustrious, 23 February 1983. 9 Harriers and 9 helicopters are on deck, also visible are the Sea Dart system and emergency Phalanx fit



(https://i.redd.it/87lvj53wl8141.png)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 27, 2019, 07:43:02 PM
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USS Forrestal (CV-59) Underway in 1987


(https://i.redd.it/l0ivndidp1141.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 27, 2019, 07:43:57 PM
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HMS Comet refueling from the French aircraft carrier Bois Belleau during exercises in the Mediterranean, May 1957


(https://i.imgur.com/CNQwPMB.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 28, 2019, 07:37:38 AM
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Corellian Engineering Corp, YT-Series, YT-1300f (492727ZED) Light Freighter under construction - CEC Orbital 7 Shipyards, 60 BBY


(https://i.imgur.com/jiBy7UV.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on November 28, 2019, 07:54:04 AM
What a great picture  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on November 28, 2019, 10:24:15 AM
Are the secret Smuggler-Cargo compartments optional or standard?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on November 28, 2019, 10:32:30 AM
(nerd-spasm)

Is it just me or does the scale of the ship seem slightly off as compared to scenes shot in the cockpit, judging by the size of the guys working on it?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: judgedredd on November 28, 2019, 10:46:20 AM
Looks fine to me
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 29, 2019, 06:19:07 AM
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Delta class SSBN out of the water


(https://i.redd.it/sm27fk5lgh141.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on November 29, 2019, 06:38:06 AM
Could do with a coat of paint.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on November 29, 2019, 07:11:29 AM
Sure, that's all it really needs.


I mean, it's not as if they can afford to put it back in the water anyway...
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on November 29, 2019, 08:31:54 AM
One careful owner who only took it out on Sunday afternoons.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on November 29, 2019, 11:45:02 PM
Damn. You think the crew's still in there?  :o
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on November 30, 2019, 07:56:45 AM
Considering what a Soviet shipyard was like, that's where I'd hide.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on November 30, 2019, 08:03:19 AM
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USS Spruance (DD-963) underway in the Caribbean Sea, 2002


(https://i.redd.it/c1esgu6l7r141.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on November 30, 2019, 11:40:17 AM
Pretty!  :dreamer:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: judgedredd on November 30, 2019, 12:30:07 PM
I'm still trying to find someone to trade their RSR to me on BGG. The closest I've come thus far is a guy that wants either my copy of Star Wars Rebellion or Imperial Assault.  :2funny:
If I've still got Red Storm Rising up in the loft, you're welcome to it. I don't know what postage would be like though. You mean Red Storm Rising by TSR right? I did have it. I don't know if I sold it at a car boot sale of it's still up in the loft. I'll check and let you know.

Yes indeed, RSR by TSR. Well sure, we can certainly look into it if you do, thank you much for looking.  8)

If JD can't find his, I got one you could maybe trade for...  8)


Pretty sure I might have a game or two you'd be interested in, ha.

Sorry BC - I don't have Red Storm Rising. I have
- both by TSR.

I also found the box of components for World War II:Pacific Theater of Operations...but no map unfortunately. I recall it being a huge thing
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 02, 2019, 07:56:03 AM
'Sokay, JD...thanks for looking regardless.

I had no idea Europe Aflame was one of TSR's games, so that's good to learn.

I have/had A Line In The Sand, somewhere. I might have gotten rid of it a while ago though as I haven't seen it and don't recall seeing it during my move.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on December 02, 2019, 08:30:22 AM
 Norway has released its investigation report on the November 2018 loss of a frigate because of a collision.

What sank the frigate unexpectedly was slight damage that the ship was designed to handle. But safety features did not work. The collision revealed design defects in these new Nansen class frigates. The lost ship was nine years old and collided with a tanker for some immediately obvious reasons. The bridge watch made several mistakes (moving too fast, misidentifying other ships and general inability to deal with the situation) that led to the collision. The Nansen class ships were, on paper, difficult to sink. But a key safety feature (the stuffing boxes that sealed the bulkhead opening for the propeller shaft during flooding) did not work and the flooding spread to other parts of the ship that would have been watertight if the stuffing boxes had worked. This sort of thing has been encountered before, where ship design features that were supposed to prevent the spread of flooding but didn’t. The loss of the Norwegian frigate had many similarities with the loss of the Titanic in 1912.

https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htlead/20191201.aspx
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 02, 2019, 09:33:32 AM
https://twitter.com/KahnPauli/status/1201508897246326784
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 02, 2019, 11:46:42 AM
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HMS Vengeance and HMS Vanguard


(https://i.imgur.com/rnY5VwG.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 02, 2019, 11:48:36 AM
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Attack submarines Ray (SSN-653), Hawkbill (SSN-666), and Archerfish (SSN-678) surfaced at the geographic North Pole, 6 May 1986 during ICEX 86.


(https://i.redd.it/ibv1qlfsd7241.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 02, 2019, 11:55:00 AM
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HMS Resolution together with HMS Warspite, HMS Malaya, HMS Royal Oak and HMS Rodney in Torbay, August 8, 1939


(https://i.redd.it/1866k889p6241.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 02, 2019, 11:56:22 AM
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HMS Valiant followed by HMS Hood and HMS Renown firing their guns during the Silver Jubilee of King George V, taken from HMS Rodney, 1935.


(https://i.redd.it/gikjqr2qn6241.png)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on December 02, 2019, 12:36:06 PM
I feel like I need to smoke a cigarette after all that.  :party:  And I don't even smoke.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 02, 2019, 01:23:05 PM
Another great selection of pictures  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 04, 2019, 10:39:33 AM
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Forgotten Soviet sub with AIP (Air Independent Propulsion) in the 50s. Project 617.


(https://i.redd.it/oxahakgb8m241.png)


http://www.hisutton.com/Pr617_AIP_submarine.html
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 04, 2019, 12:12:29 PM
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Russian experimental submarine Project 613E with electro-chemical generators.


(https://i.redd.it/3isvmpyutl241.png)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 04, 2019, 12:20:35 PM
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HMS Queen Elizabeth enters Portsmouth Harbour, joining Prince of Wales in HMNB Portsmouth for the first time


(https://i.redd.it/qa1eo1kejl241.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 04, 2019, 12:21:36 PM
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Royal Navy nuclear subs awaiting disposal at Devonport Naval Base, April 2019


(https://i.redd.it/0vvnu7rrll241.png)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 04, 2019, 12:22:37 PM
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HMS Prince of Wales (R09) completes sea trials prior to her first entry to Her Majesty's Naval Base Portsmouth as seen from the U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyer USS Gridley (DDG 101)


(https://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/191111-N-UB406-0233.JPG)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 04, 2019, 12:25:00 PM
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Prince of Wales alongside Victory Jetty, Portsmouth. HMS Victory, M33 and the Mary Rose museum are also visible


(https://i.redd.it/c4yrqeq4zd241.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 04, 2019, 01:13:03 PM
All them blokes on deck with binoculars looking for F-35's
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 04, 2019, 02:19:57 PM
That big ass aircraft carrier and they still have to have a ski jump.  ;D
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on December 04, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
That's just so the Brits can tell which end NOT to land on.  :hehe:   Sorry Mates, too easy to pass on.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 04, 2019, 03:21:32 PM
That big ass aircraft carrier and they still have to have a ski jump.  ;D

They could have fit them with catapults, but they deemed the cost to install/operate/maintain them to be prohibitive.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 04, 2019, 03:23:10 PM
Interesting, I did not know that.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 04, 2019, 03:26:53 PM
The ski jump is much less expensive, but it limits operational capability. IIRC, there was quite a bit of discussion about which approach to take. In the end, it came down to cost savings. The RN is going to have a difficult enough time funding the carriers as it is.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 04, 2019, 03:28:34 PM
If the F-35 is a VTOL I guess it's not all that important either way.

That is if the poor saps allies of ours are using that aircraft.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 04, 2019, 03:34:31 PM
That big ass aircraft carrier and they still have to have a ski jump.  ;D

They could have fit them with catapults, but they deemed the cost to install/operate/maintain them to be prohibitive.

Given how the F-35 has escalated in price, I wonder if that is still the case.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 04, 2019, 03:35:39 PM
If the F-35 is a VTOL I guess it's not all that important either way.


Yes and no. The V/STOL version has reduced payload, possibly reduced range too. There are trade-offs for the short takeoff ability and there's a lot of extra weight associated with the vertical-lift system.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 04, 2019, 03:47:04 PM
(a) get rid of the ski ramp and install the catapult system - what's a few shillings more to our UK brethren in taxes?  :D

(b) bring back the Tomcat
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 04, 2019, 04:13:10 PM
Bring back the Ark Royal and the Swordfish..........................
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 04, 2019, 04:30:46 PM
They could have fit them with catapults, but they deemed the cost to install/operate/maintain them to be prohibitive.


Steam, or electromagnetic?  I hear there's a design expert with some very specific thoughts on it...  :doh:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 04, 2019, 04:53:54 PM
They could have fit them with catapults, but they deemed the cost to install/operate/maintain them to be prohibitive.


Steam, or electromagnetic?  I hear there's a design expert with some very specific thoughts on it...  :doh:

I seem to remember reading that they considered steam since the electromagnetic system had not been sufficiently developed at that time
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 05, 2019, 06:58:25 PM
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SMS Seydlitz returning home after Battle of Jutland with 5300 t of water onboard.


(https://i.redd.it/b0psb9hzpu241.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 05, 2019, 06:59:44 PM
They could have fit them with catapults, but they deemed the cost to install/operate/maintain them to be prohibitive.


Steam, or electromagnetic?  I hear there's a design expert with some very specific thoughts on it...  :doh:

I seem to remember reading that they considered steam since the electromagnetic system had not been sufficiently developed at that time

The Emals system on the Ford is still a mess.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 05, 2019, 07:10:58 PM
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USS Lexington at anchor off Honolulu, Hawaii, 8 Apr 1938


(https://i.redd.it/3lv43r964t241.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bbmike on December 05, 2019, 07:13:38 PM
Lady Lex lookin' fine!  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on December 05, 2019, 07:35:40 PM
That's a bunch of planes!  :o
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on December 05, 2019, 07:39:36 PM
 :bigthumb:

She still has her 8-inch pea-shooters in that pic, along with the last of the USN's carrier based biplane fighters, either Grumman F2Fs or Boeing F4Bs (maybe a few of both?)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 06, 2019, 08:59:10 AM
Not much freeboard.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 06, 2019, 09:07:37 AM
Not much freeboard.


PLAY FREEBOARD!
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7100/7269798882_8b245e94f3_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 06, 2019, 09:09:15 AM
I'm sure that you are well aware that I used the word purely in a nautical sense.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 06, 2019, 09:22:26 AM
I'm sure that you are well aware that I used the word purely in a nautical sense.


well yeah, but if you can sneak in a bad pun then why not?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 06, 2019, 09:44:22 AM
Everyone needs to wake up and foam a line to the left to appreciate these sea puns.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 06, 2019, 10:01:37 AM
That will have to tide us over for now.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 06, 2019, 10:08:52 AM
Brine on the puns, boys!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 06, 2019, 10:15:30 AM
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 06, 2019, 02:02:00 PM
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Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) transits through the Strait of Gibraltar, Dec. 5, 2019


(https://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/191205-N-GC347-0627.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on December 06, 2019, 02:03:34 PM
Dammit! I was supposed to be notified if Puns broke-out. I hate being out-to-sea on a subject.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 06, 2019, 02:34:20 PM
You have to keep a weather-eye open for current trends.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on December 06, 2019, 03:06:23 PM
And don't miss the boat?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 06, 2019, 03:27:00 PM
We're really plumbing the depths now.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: trailrunner on December 06, 2019, 04:09:26 PM
I can’t believe we’ve sunk so low with these jokes.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 06, 2019, 04:16:08 PM
I'm turning into a nervous wreck.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on December 06, 2019, 06:18:56 PM
Not much freeboard.

Is that the open-source version? Does it run under Linux Mint?
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 07, 2019, 06:48:10 AM
Only with a suitable pebbled-concrete dongle.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on December 07, 2019, 08:34:16 AM
By definition, landing on a carrier is a "controlled crash."
Being a Roof Rat is a very dangerous job.

Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 08, 2019, 11:37:25 AM
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USS Lowry (DD-770) steaming close by a Soviet "F" type submarine, during the 1960s.



(https://i.imgur.com/yyfmvhz.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 08, 2019, 11:43:49 AM
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French Battleship Dunkerque, 1937


(https://i.redd.it/y148d0d4a2341.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on December 08, 2019, 12:14:38 PM
Wartime price list on the Big Mamie,  Uss Massachusetts.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 08, 2019, 02:54:20 PM
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French Battleship Dunkerque, 1937


(https://i.redd.it/y148d0d4a2341.jpg)


Still owns the record for fastest evacuation a fire drill
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on December 09, 2019, 08:40:19 AM
Exercising the High Seas Fleet, summer 1914.

That ship's boat looks like it will be splintered from the muzzle blast of the turret in the forground.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on December 09, 2019, 12:14:10 PM
That's a great pic. I've never seen it before.  :applause:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 12, 2019, 08:43:50 AM
https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1205116756987203584


Damn. It's bad.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1216195/russia-news-fire-Admiral-Kuznetsov-aircraft-carrier-murmansk
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on December 12, 2019, 12:30:21 PM
Better sale that to China too.... quick!   :worried:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on December 12, 2019, 12:45:58 PM
Crap-  :(

I hope they manage to find the missing person and keep injuries to a minimum.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on December 12, 2019, 02:45:45 PM
latest report admits this was started by a welder's torch.
This is pretty common in a shipyard, doing welding in very confined spaces.
However, in the west, at least, the shipyard has a well trained fire fighting organization for just such events.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 12, 2019, 02:58:21 PM
The Russians have never been great about fire prevention/control.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on December 12, 2019, 09:32:54 PM

Royal Navy battleships in heavy seas.

Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 13, 2019, 06:51:32 AM
Big of a sea running.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 15, 2019, 05:45:16 PM
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Australian carrier group consisting of anti-submarine aircraft carrier R21 Melbourne and destroyers D08 Vendetta and D04 Voyager , 1959


(https://i.redd.it/apdwwx23zr441.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 15, 2019, 05:46:40 PM
Workers repair damage to USS North Carolina caused by an IJN Long Lance torpedo fired by submarine I-19 on September 15, 1942. The hole measured 32 by 18 feet.


(https://i.redd.it/1tx6lhfukp441.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 17, 2019, 07:34:34 PM
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HMS Glory operating with the British Pacific Fleet, August 1945


(https://i.imgur.com/mM8cTqj.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on December 17, 2019, 09:58:47 PM
On September 27, 1941, Nelson was hit by an Italian torpedo during an air attack forcing it to return to Britain for repairs.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 18, 2019, 02:15:24 PM
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HMS Renown off Scapa Flow, Aug 14, 1943


(https://i.imgur.com/qOttxQ7.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 18, 2019, 02:49:28 PM
Good looking ship!
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on December 18, 2019, 07:49:03 PM
Yes! I'd buy her a drink and not even care if she threw it back in my face.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 18, 2019, 08:21:17 PM


 :2funny:

That "elite company" comment is kind of funny. I mean, come on. The J-15 isn't that great an air superiority fighter, right? And China has bubkus when it comes to carrier operations experience. It's certainly eyebrow-raising, but...
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on December 18, 2019, 11:21:54 PM
President Xi reminds me of a constipated Jackie Chan.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 19, 2019, 07:13:56 AM
^LMAO
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on December 19, 2019, 08:57:43 AM
USS Pittsburgh lost it's bow during a typhoon on 4 June, 1945.
Not a man was lost.
After a seven-hour battle, the storm subsided, and Pittsburgh proceeded at 6 knots (11 km/h) to Guam, arriving on 10 June. Her bow, nicknamed "McKeesport" (a suburb of Pittsburgh), was later salvaged by the tugboat Munsee and brought into Guam. The 104-foot section of bow broke off owing to poor plate welds at the Bethlehem Shipbuilding Co. at the Fore River Shipyard, Quincy, Massachusetts, in April 1943.

With a false bow, Pittsburgh left Guam on 24 June bound for Puget Sound Navy Yard, arriving 16 July. Still under repair at war's end, she was placed in commission in reserve on 12 March 1946 and decommissioned on 7 March 1947. The typhoon damage also earned her the nickname "Longest Ship in the World" as thousands of miles separated the bow and stern.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on December 19, 2019, 11:41:27 AM
Pittsburgh always was a tough town.  :bringit:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 19, 2019, 12:42:49 PM
President Xi reminds me of a constipated Jackie Chan.

The Internet has a LOT of fun with that guy. There's tons of memes comparing him to Winnie the Pooh, which pissed off the slimes in Beijing so much that they banned a Winnie the Pooh movie there.  :ROFL:

Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 19, 2019, 01:11:24 PM
Really? Now that is funny  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 19, 2019, 01:20:21 PM
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HMS Audacious in the water for the first time


(https://i.redd.it/e6tn7hdjcm541.jpg)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on December 19, 2019, 03:34:37 PM
I bet it can't fly F-35's off it either.  ::)
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 19, 2019, 04:06:48 PM
Neither can anything else..............
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Staggerwing on December 19, 2019, 07:01:10 PM
Neither can anything else..............

I hear that the Japanese are building a new I-400. They're calling it a helicopter submarine but the ski jump-shaped bow looks somehow familiar...
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: Sir Slash on December 19, 2019, 07:33:26 PM
Water Skiing perhaps?  :hehe:
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 20, 2019, 11:33:06 AM
https://twitter.com/BruinMatthew/status/1208031005644341248
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 20, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/carnival-legend-based-in-tampa-collides-with-cruise-ship-in-mexico
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: bob48 on December 20, 2019, 12:02:03 PM
Oh dear. Someones seamanship will be under scrutiny.
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: besilarius on December 20, 2019, 02:48:53 PM
Where is Captain Stubing when you need him?

https://www.biography.com/news/the-love-boat-cast-where-are-they-now
Title: Re: Ships!
Post by: mirth on December 22, 2019, 11:43:51 AM
This is pretty wild. Egypt still has a couple Romeo-class subs in service and they are capable of launching Harpoons.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31459/egypts-soviet-era-chinese-made-american-upgraded-subs-can-still-fire-harpoon-missiles
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Post by: bob48 on December 22, 2019, 11:49:45 AM
Don't tell Herman..............
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Post by: mirth on December 22, 2019, 12:23:23 PM
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Charlie class SSGN INS Chakra alongside INS Viraat


(https://i.redd.it/2gz6omszc6641.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on December 22, 2019, 12:24:29 PM
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HMS Britannia after having been torpedoed by UB-50, Nov 9, 1918 off Cape Trafalgar. One of the last British warships lost in WWI.


(https://i.imgur.com/5kAn6LD.jpg)
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Post by: bob48 on December 22, 2019, 12:25:19 PM
Incredible picture.
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Post by: bob48 on December 22, 2019, 12:30:30 PM
Dreadnought passing through the Swing Bridge. This was HMS Monarch and it was taken in 1911. It clearly shows the tight fit afforded to these ships by the Swing Bridge. Again much of the superstructure has been disassembled to allow the ship to pass under the High Level, Redheugh and King Edward bridges

It would be coming down the Tyne from the Vickers yard.

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Post by: mirth on December 22, 2019, 12:32:29 PM
^very cool  :bigthumb:
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Post by: mirth on December 22, 2019, 12:34:56 PM
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HMS Naiad shadowing a Soviet Kiev class aircraft carrier


(https://i.imgur.com/7ySVGJ1.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on December 22, 2019, 12:35:39 PM
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HMS Indomitable, July 16, 1942


(https://i.imgur.com/3ZN3XDX.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on December 23, 2019, 12:15:18 PM
https://features.propublica.org/navy-uss-mccain-crash/navy-installed-touch-screen-steering-ten-sailors-paid-with-their-lives/
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Post by: mirth on December 23, 2019, 12:49:58 PM
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HMS Vengeance


(https://i.imgur.com/lilA34R.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on December 23, 2019, 12:52:42 PM
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The battleship SMS Ostfriesland in the dry dock. Preparations are underway to repair damage caused by a mine explosion after the Battle of Jutland.


(https://i.redd.it/gbqm696bxc641.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on December 23, 2019, 12:53:37 PM
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The first dreadnought battleship built for the Regia Marina, Dante Alighieri, fires her 12 inch guns.


(https://i.redd.it/hr515moywc641.jpg)
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Post by: mirth on December 23, 2019, 12:55:29 PM
(https://i.redd.it/u1rqeopuwd641.png)
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Post by: Staggerwing on December 23, 2019, 07:19:20 PM
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The battleship SMS Ostfriesland in the dry dock. Preparations are underway to repair damage caused by a mine explosion after the Battle of Jutland.


(https://i.redd.it/gbqm696bxc641.jpg)

The SMS Ostfriesland was the 'war prize' target ship used during the inter-war bombing exercises championed by General Billy Mitchell.

His brass-annoying efforts initially got him court-martialed and then later got a medium bomber named after him that went on to be first to bomb mainland Japan.  ::)
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Post by: besilarius on December 24, 2019, 09:55:11 AM
Discussion of teething troubles on Chinese carrier Shandong.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3043042/smaller-fighter-jet-force-expected-chinas-new-aircraft-carrier

Hope they don't have a person with foresight and initiative as the USN had with Billy Goat Reeves on the Langley.
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Post by: besilarius on December 26, 2019, 09:16:06 AM
Bomb impacts on Enterprise, August 1942.

https://imgur.com/GUrPZOA
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Post by: mirth on December 26, 2019, 01:23:38 PM
Jeebus

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1210258996260724738
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Post by: bob48 on December 26, 2019, 02:00:13 PM
Nasty.
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Post by: besilarius on December 27, 2019, 08:22:12 AM
Battleships steaming in column off the California coast during the 1920s. The three leading ships are (in no particular order) USS Colorado (BB-45), USS Maryland (BB-46), and USS West Virginia (BB-48), followed by USS Tennessee (BB-43) and three older battleships.

Photograph taken from USS California (BB-44).
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Post by: mirth on December 27, 2019, 01:52:27 PM
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HMS Vengeance on rollout day (Vanguard Class)


(https://i.redd.it/djtqpvbm04r31.jpg)
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Post by: besilarius on December 30, 2019, 08:23:30 AM
Economic reality is putting the brakes on Chinese carrier expansion.

https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htnavai/20191229.aspx
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Post by: bob48 on December 30, 2019, 08:46:37 AM
Maybe its a ruse de guerre
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Post by: Sir Slash on December 30, 2019, 09:32:21 AM
Always a possibility. As is the building a massive carrier fleet being a huge head-fake. Anything that slows them down is good in my book.
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Post by: mirth on December 30, 2019, 09:33:05 AM
This is particularly interesting:

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"A fourth problem is demographic. Several decades of the “one-child” per couple policy did prevent a population explosion. It also helped create the first large (several hundred million strong) Chinese middle class of well-educated engineers and other professionals. These are the people who were key to China quickly creating the second largest GDP in the world. But there is a catch. Affluent, talented women everywhere, and throughout history, don’t have a lot of children. Even though the one-child rule was revoked several years ago, the population is not growing, especially with the educated couples. Worse the children of middle-class families are not eager to join the military, which needs their skills to operate all this new gear"
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Post by: trailrunner on December 30, 2019, 10:19:09 AM
This is particularly interesting:

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"A fourth problem is demographic. Several decades of the “one-child” per couple policy did prevent a population explosion. It also helped create the first large (several hundred million strong) Chinese middle class of well-educated engineers and other professionals. These are the people who were key to China quickly creating the second largest GDP in the world. But there is a catch. Affluent, talented women everywhere, and throughout history, don’t have a lot of children. Even though the one-child rule was revoked several years ago, the population is not growing, especially with the educated couples. Worse the children of middle-class families are not eager to join the military, which needs their skills to operate all this new gear"

To some degree, this is true with a lot of modern countries.  Birthrates are low, and the military doesn't have much appeal for younger generations, especially in countries with low unemployment.  China is catching up with Europe, USA, and other affluent countries with strong economies.  If one is a hopeless optimist, it is possible to envision a future when the youth of all countries refuse to join their militaries and peace breaks out worldwide.


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Post by: mirth on December 30, 2019, 10:22:56 AM
The unintended consequences of the one-child policy are fascinating. Right or wrong as a policy, it was an unprecedented social engineering experiment that will be studied for decades to come.
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Post by: bbmike on December 30, 2019, 11:07:32 AM
This is particularly interesting:

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"A fourth problem is demographic. Several decades of the “one-child” per couple policy did prevent a population explosion. It also helped create the first large (several hundred million strong) Chinese middle class of well-educated engineers and other professionals. These are the people who were key to China quickly creating the second largest GDP in the world. But there is a catch. Affluent, talented women everywhere, and throughout history, don’t have a lot of children. Even though the one-child rule was revoked several years ago, the population is not growing, especially with the educated couples. Worse the children of middle-class families are not eager to join the military, which needs their skills to operate all this new gear"

To some degree, this is true with a lot of modern countries.  Birthrates are low, and the military doesn't have much appeal for younger generations, especially in countries with low unemployment.  China is catching up with Europe, USA, and other affluent countries with strong economies.  If one is a hopeless optimist, it is possible to envision a future when the youth of all countries refuse to join their militaries and peace breaks out worldwide.

Nah, anyone can push a button.
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Post by: mirth on December 30, 2019, 11:08:40 AM
Knowing your job, that's a real comfort.
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Post by: mirth on December 30, 2019, 11:09:48 AM
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Post by: bbmike on December 30, 2019, 11:11:38 AM
lol
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Post by: besilarius on January 01, 2020, 09:25:38 PM
HMS Liverpool after crossing the Atlantic, passing through the  Panama Canal and heading up to California with a temporary bow to reach  the Mare Island Naval Shipyard for repairs. Her bow was badly damaged  when an Italian SM.79 Sparviero torpedo bomber found its mark on 14  October 1940 as the ship made for Alexandria, Egypt - 30 killed, 35 more  wounded.
Taken under tow from the stern a fuel fire had further  compromised the structural integrity of the bow. The subsequent  combination of drag and turbulence removed it completely on the first  day of a two day reverse journey to Alexandria. Once there she was given  a temporary bow fix and sent on her way to California, where she was  photographed above and made anew. The ship survived another torpedo hit  from the same type of aircraft in June 1942.

Had not realised how many ships survived having their bows torpedoed.
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Post by: mirth on January 02, 2020, 02:26:15 PM
Last of the SpruCans!


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Self defense test ship E964 used by the US navy as a test bed for new technologies and experimental weapon systems, formerly USS Paul F. Foster a Spruance class destroyer and the sole surviving member of the class as the others were either sunk as targets or scrapped


(https://i.redd.it/khl89lpi2e841.jpg)
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Post by: Sir Slash on January 02, 2020, 07:38:04 PM
Pretty ship.  :applause:
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Post by: besilarius on January 02, 2020, 09:39:03 PM
Nice view of naval armor.

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Post by: besilarius on January 04, 2020, 04:00:12 PM
Nice, tight group.
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Post by: Staggerwing on January 04, 2020, 05:06:38 PM
That's from the Battle of Samar, isn't it?

NM, just saw pix caption.
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Post by: mirth on January 05, 2020, 10:45:21 AM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31708/veteran-sonarman-explains-why-pump-jets-are-superior-to-props-on-modern-submarines


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Post by: mirth on January 05, 2020, 11:43:06 AM
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British light cruiser HMS Leander in the Panama Canal area.


(https://preview.redd.it/uyxsccotbz841.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=cbdc59b1a4627e3f135614b0fc08670c79b97240)
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Post by: Staggerwing on January 05, 2020, 11:47:18 AM
^I built an Airfix model of the Leander when I was a kid. I bought it while visiting my grandparents back in the old country. I think might have picked that model because the Walrus looked so cool sitting there on the catapult.
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Post by: besilarius on January 09, 2020, 08:29:06 AM
HMS Ark Royal (91) listing after she was torpedoed by the submarine U-81 on November 13, 1941. Despite attempts to save her, she capsized and sank the next day. Her skipper, Captain Loben Maund, was court-martialed in February 1942 after a Board of Inquiry found him guilty on two counts of negligence. “Meanwhile, the Bucknill Committee, which had been set up to investigate the loss of major warships, produced a report that identified the lack of backup power sources as a major design failure that contributed to her loss; Ark Royal depended on electricity for much of her operation, and once the boilers and steam-driven dynamos were knocked out, the loss of power made damage control difficult.” US Navy photo Lot-3478-19 from the Office of Emergency Management.
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Post by: Sir Slash on January 09, 2020, 11:24:21 AM
A Proud Ship indeed.  :'(
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Post by: mirth on January 09, 2020, 01:14:39 PM
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Wreck of the USS Maine, raised in 1912.


(https://i.imgur.com/hIaj839.png)
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Post by: Sir Slash on January 09, 2020, 03:27:15 PM
Boy, that's gonna need some Duck Tape and a coat of paint.  :o
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Post by: mirth on January 10, 2020, 10:25:25 AM
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US Navy ships at anchor in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, during winter exercises in 1927


(https://external-preview.redd.it/pzcQ-wk7UA14zicGqC8yvUpRI-MBzxiwlfLwZsuozT0.jpg?auto=webp&s=dbe218014bbcdfbdde58aa14c0b6066c3bc45a4e)
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Post by: mirth on January 10, 2020, 11:11:37 AM
https://twitter.com/US5thFleet/status/1215658818882998272
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Post by: Sir Slash on January 10, 2020, 11:24:43 AM
That would've been a damned good time to throw the garbage overboard.  :go-on:
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Post by: mirth on January 15, 2020, 07:09:10 PM
Lasers for the LCS

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31843/navy-littoral-combat-ship-will-soon-be-armed-with-a-laser-weapon-system
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Post by: mirth on January 23, 2020, 04:14:47 PM
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USS Ranger in drydock, with USS Coral Sea and USS Hancock, Hunter's Point, 25 August 1971


(https://i.redd.it/f6unsbaa4lc41.jpg)