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Title: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 13, 2018, 09:42:04 AM
Kickstarter coming very soon for the reboot. New pics coming out.  :bigthumb:

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Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 09:45:53 AM
The counters are a VAST improvement.
Whats up with the cards? Are they for activation?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on September 13, 2018, 09:46:42 AM
That is exactly what I thought with regards to the counters!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 13, 2018, 09:48:42 AM
Yep. Card deck instead of chits in a cup.

Also note no unit designations on the counters. Just the coloured strip to match with formation cards. makes it easier to change up formation names and other attributes.

I guess that will save on counter count.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 09:51:19 AM
^all good news, imo. This is going to cost me some money :P
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 13, 2018, 09:52:04 AM
^all good news, imo. This is going to cost me some money :P

Ditto.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 10:08:28 AM
They're not going to be able to do "upgrade kits" for the old games, right? I think David said they had to make too many changes to be able to retrofit the original games. Certainly seems like it based on those pics.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 13, 2018, 10:10:52 AM
Yes I think that's right. Rules have changes, maps have change, etc. Even the values on the counters have swapped locations.

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on September 13, 2018, 10:11:58 AM
Looks great! Just tell me Jar Jar Abrams isn't involved in this 'reboot'.  :whistle:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 10:16:24 AM
Yes I think that's right. Rules have changes, maps have change, etc. Even the values on the counters have swapped locations.

Not a big deal really to buy new. I loved the old games, but they were not without their flaws.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 10:17:22 AM
Looks great! Just tell me Jar Jar Abrams isn't involved in this 'reboot'.  :whistle:

He was consulted about a time travel plot, but LnL ultimately passed.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on September 13, 2018, 10:20:03 AM
LnL got brains.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 13, 2018, 10:29:28 AM
^all good news, imo. This is going to cost me some money :P


something else to go on the stack-of-games-to-be-played-eventually eh?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 10:49:45 AM
I play more games than you do.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 13, 2018, 10:59:42 AM
I play more games than you do.


Given how much stuff I play on mobile throughout the day, I doubt that.  But traditional tabletop wargaming?  Yeah, you probably do

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 11:04:59 AM
I play more games than you do.


Given how much stuff I play on mobile throughout the day, I doubt that.  But traditional tabletop wargaming?  Yeah, you probably do
Mobile...pfft
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 13, 2018, 11:08:55 AM
So... why was this moved?  ???
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 11:09:58 AM
So... why was this moved?  ???
Brant's a thread Nazi.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 13, 2018, 11:10:04 AM
So... why was this moved?  ???


Seemed like a better fit for The Modern World for gaming?  :-[
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 13, 2018, 11:10:31 AM
So... why was this moved?  ???
Brant's a thread Nazi.


yep, Brant's a plural.  He really needs to lose some weight
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 13, 2018, 11:10:54 AM
So what goes into Intel Dump if not news about new games...?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 13, 2018, 11:11:18 AM
So what goes into Intel Dump if not news about new games...?


we're still figuring this out as we go...   :peace:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on September 13, 2018, 11:16:26 AM
So... why was this moved?  ???
Brant's a thread Nazi.


yep, Brant's a plural.
I have no idea what you're talking about   O:-)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 05, 2019, 12:31:12 PM
Anyone else backing this?


https://twitter.com/LnLPub/status/1092833247036428288
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 05, 2019, 12:42:02 PM
No.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 05, 2019, 12:52:04 PM
I backed it. The old WaW games were fun and I like the improvements they're planning.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 05, 2019, 01:41:27 PM
Yeah I'm gonna be in for this. Great fun system. They have cleaned up a lot of things.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 05, 2019, 01:42:51 PM
I grabbed one of the last $60 pledges. They only did 20 at that level and I could see them disappearing as I was looking.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 05, 2019, 01:45:11 PM
Lucky basturd.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 05, 2019, 01:47:29 PM
If they meet all the stretch goals it will be a shit ton of gaming goodness in one big box.  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 05, 2019, 01:50:20 PM
If they meet all the stretch goals it will be a shit ton of gaming goodness in one big box.  :D

Was thinking the same. There are some awesome stretch goals listed.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 05, 2019, 02:00:04 PM
8 piece Fulda map....  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 05, 2019, 02:56:25 PM
I'll probably end up jumping in at some point, but right now, the only thing I can think about financially is not screwing up our property taxes
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 06, 2019, 10:47:14 AM
Damn. It's almost to the first funding goal in 24 hours

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lnlp/storming-the-gap-world-at-war-85?ref=nav_search&result=project&term=World%20At%20War%20%5C
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 06, 2019, 11:15:40 AM
Looks impressive, and they have certainly improved the artwork, especially the counters. It looks much better than the 'old' version.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 06, 2019, 11:16:40 AM
The old counters were a bit of a mess.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 06, 2019, 11:21:54 AM
Very difficult to read in many cases due to the strange font type and colours that were used. Typical of the old regime!

I had most, if not all, of the original WaW games but eventually sold 'em off.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 06, 2019, 11:31:31 AM
So... time to get the new stuff!  :D

And you won't have to waste yer limited remaining years retirement time clipping as the counters come pre-rounded.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 06, 2019, 11:47:25 AM
I fully support pre-rounded counters.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 06, 2019, 12:30:52 PM
It's funded now. Come on Stretch Goals!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 06, 2019, 01:00:48 PM
So... time to get the new stuff!  :D

And you won't have to waste yer limited remaining years retirement time clipping as the counters come pre-rounded.

Now why do you suppose they went with rounded counters.  :whistle:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 06, 2019, 01:15:10 PM
So... time to get the new stuff!  :D

And you won't have to waste yer limited remaining years retirement time clipping as the counters come pre-rounded.

Now why do you suppose they went with rounded counters.  :whistle:

Doesn't matter. They are made that way so I'm happy to have them. No heathenly mangling involved.....
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 06, 2019, 01:18:08 PM
So... time to get the new stuff!  :D

And you won't have to waste yer limited remaining years retirement time clipping as the counters come pre-rounded.

Now why do you suppose they went with rounded counters.  :whistle:

Doesn't matter. They are made that way so I'm happy to have them. No heathenly mangling involved.....

I'm going to make the extra round!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 06, 2019, 01:21:49 PM
So... time to get the new stuff!  :D

And you won't have to waste yer limited remaining years retirement time clipping as the counters come pre-rounded.

Unfortunately, my gaming budget won't allow that.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 06, 2019, 01:26:42 PM
So... time to get the new stuff!  :D

And you won't have to waste yer limited remaining years retirement time clipping as the counters come pre-rounded.

Now why do you suppose they went with rounded counters.  :whistle:

Doesn't matter. They are made that way so I'm happy to have them. No heathenly mangling involved.....

I'm going to make the extra round!

Frog!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 07, 2019, 09:11:20 AM
Stretch Goals 1 & 2 have been unlocked: Winter Maps and a fancy neoprene gamer mat!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 07, 2019, 02:07:34 PM
Goal 3 unlocked - Campaign system.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 07, 2019, 02:08:24 PM
Goal 3 unlocked - Campaign system.  :bigthumb:

wooHoo!!!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 07, 2019, 02:41:27 PM
Definitely looking like an impressive package.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on February 07, 2019, 10:32:23 PM
I drank the cool aid on this one.  Hope it scarfs up all the goodies.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 08, 2019, 06:41:39 AM
The way its going so far, I'd be surprised if it doesn't get all the goals.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 08, 2019, 07:00:28 AM
I drank the cool aid on this one.  Hope it scarfs up all the goodies.

 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 08, 2019, 08:49:05 AM
Stretch goal #4 surpassed! Free novel set in game universe by Brad Smith.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 08, 2019, 09:00:56 AM
Stretch goal #4 surpassed! Free novel set in game universe by Brad Smith.

Less than $800 away from the Fulda Gap Map stretch goal!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 08, 2019, 09:02:52 AM
Free novel set in game universe by Brad Smith.

Hoping this one will be vampire free ;)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 08, 2019, 09:04:58 AM
Free novel set in game universe by Brad Smith.

Hoping this one will be vampire free ;)

Pretty much guaranteed….
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 08, 2019, 09:07:34 AM
Free novel set in game universe by Brad Smith.

Hoping this one will be vampire free ;)

Pretty much guaranteed….

I know. David and I had a discussion about it when I was at Origins a couple years ago.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 08, 2019, 09:14:22 AM
This is the first KS I have ever backed and I'm very glad I jumped in.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 08, 2019, 09:39:18 AM
I think if it did have vampires I would also be in.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 08, 2019, 10:20:21 AM
Stretch Goal 5 unlocked!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 08, 2019, 10:21:31 AM
WooT! 8 map Fulda Gap!!  :party:


Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 08, 2019, 10:25:43 AM
I think if it did have vampires I would also be in.

https://www.amazon.com/Revelation-World-Dark-Novel-Walker-ebook/dp/B00HAN7R6K
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 08, 2019, 11:31:53 AM
Oh my. And pretty good reviews too.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 08, 2019, 11:38:12 AM
I'm sure it's fine, but not my cup of tea.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 08, 2019, 02:07:01 PM
And Stretch #6 is met - Defense of Frankfurt scenario with more units to play on Fulda Gap map.!  :D

 :applause:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 08, 2019, 02:17:49 PM
And Stretch #6 is met - Defense of Frankfurt scenario with more units to play on Fulda Gap map.!  :D

 :applause:

Gonna be the best $60 I ever spent
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 08, 2019, 02:38:54 PM
Yeah, that is one heck of a package.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Capn Darwin on February 08, 2019, 06:30:35 PM
I caved to all the peer pressure, again... :whistle:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on February 08, 2019, 06:33:17 PM
Anyone go in for the dice?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 08, 2019, 06:45:51 PM
I caved to all the peer pressure, again... :whistle:

Yeah, I may have to quit reading this thread now. (http://www.aarcentral.com/emoti/HideEyes.gif)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 08, 2019, 08:47:30 PM
Anyone go in for the dice?

No... they leave dents in yer game boards....
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 08, 2019, 08:49:05 PM
Hmmm. Never done a kickstarter. This is tempting.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 08, 2019, 09:12:49 PM
DO IT! Already worth way more than the $70 buy in. There's more stretch goals coming. More value for your dollar.

It's alot like Flashpoint Campaigns: Red Storm only in a board game.

And you won't lose yer money like with some other KS campaigns that shall not be named.... Up Front.....  :tickedoff:


Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 09, 2019, 08:10:47 AM
I should have quit reading this thread.

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Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 09, 2019, 08:37:23 AM
 :biggrin:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 09, 2019, 08:43:47 AM
Stretch goal #7 reached. New monster scenario using the full Fula Gap map "Hold the damn line!" NATO counter attack.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 09, 2019, 08:46:11 AM
^Yeah, you can thank me now.  :P
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on February 09, 2019, 08:49:59 AM
Pretty soon they'll have enough backer money to buy a used Antonov 12 for delivering the games.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2019, 09:10:46 AM
^Yeah, you can thank me now.  :P

 :2funny:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 09, 2019, 09:11:50 AM
I'm sure I will jump on it at some point
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2019, 11:30:31 AM
Stretch goal #7 reached. New monster scenario using the full Fula Gap map "Hold the damn line!" NATO counter attack.

A dream team of US and West German Armored has finally coalesced north of Frankfurt for a counterattack intended to bludgeon the oncoming Soviets and save the Rhine River crossings. United States Army M-1s and Bundeswehr Leopard-2s battle Soviet T-80s and East German T-72s in a battle of the behemoths!



 :D Hell Yeah!!!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: trailrunner on February 09, 2019, 11:41:08 AM
Thanks to this thread, I am now $70 lighter.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 09, 2019, 12:00:19 PM
Thanks to this thread, I am now $70 lighter.

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Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 09, 2019, 01:07:36 PM
Thanks to this thread, I am now $70 lighter.

 >:D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on February 09, 2019, 02:45:26 PM
"Ze plan... she is wurking..." -just overheard in the LnLP ops room.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 09, 2019, 02:59:39 PM
Its very close to the $40k goal now.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 09, 2019, 04:54:58 PM
Cleared 40K and unlocked Stretch Goal 8 (to be announced)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 09, 2019, 06:13:32 PM
Thanks to this thread, I am now $70 lighter.

Ditto.   :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Arctic Blast on February 09, 2019, 07:35:28 PM
Every damn time that I tell myself I'm going to start backing away from Kickstarter...sigh.

I've just hit the Remind Me button for now, but this is as likely a back as there is.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 09, 2019, 09:34:35 PM
Thanks to this thread, I am now $70 lighter.

Ditto.   :D

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Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 10, 2019, 06:40:16 AM
Stretch goal # 8 - New city map and scenario for it. Done.

Currently sittin at $42k

Stretch goal #9 - winter version of all the Fulda maps - $48K

Strech gaol #10 - Storm and Steel Second Wave Expansion - 2 more maps, 2 counter sheets and 4 scenarios. - $55K

Possible Stretch goal #11 only if it doesn't stretch delivery.




Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 10, 2019, 07:01:09 AM
Total haul up to the end of stretch goal #10:

11 counter sheets - 88 counters each = 968 counters. Country forces included US, West German, Soviet, East German and Czech.

27 maps - 3 double sided (summer/winter) base game, 8 double sided Fulda Gap(summer/winter), 2 Bavaria, 1 city, 2 smaller campaign maps.

28 scenarios

217+ formation cards

25 player aids

Battle Generator

2 neoprene player mats

2 Campaign screens

System rule book, module rule book, campaign rule book, Defence of Frankfurt expansion rule book, Storm and Steel expansion rule book

Novel by Brad Smith.   

 :D
Not bad for $70. (Well $92 CDN)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: trailrunner on February 10, 2019, 07:15:20 AM
Just so I understand this - Do I get everything in all those stretch goals with my $70?

And the counters don't need to be clipped?

Wowza.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 10, 2019, 07:44:04 AM
do they actually have all that developed yet?  Or is this like one of those Reaper minis Kickstarters: "hey, just throwing shit in there!"
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Pinetree on February 10, 2019, 08:16:18 AM
do they actually have all that developed yet?  Or is this like one of those Reaper minis Kickstarters: "hey, just throwing shit in there!"

David Heath has mentioned a few times that everything in the KS is ready to go to the printers the moment it finishes so I take that as a yes.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 10, 2019, 02:03:21 PM
Just so I understand this - Do I get everything in all those stretch goals with my $70?

And the counters don't need to be clipped?

Wowza.

Yep!  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 10, 2019, 02:51:28 PM
Do you think they wish now that the stretch goals were set higher.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 10, 2019, 02:57:28 PM
Do you think they wish now that the stretch goals were set higher.

Don't think so. They have all this stuff printer ready. Pretty sure David wanted to give it all to us. He's pretty generous that way.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 10, 2019, 03:25:57 PM
Do you think they wish now that the stretch goals were set higher.

Don't think so. They have all this stuff printer ready. Pretty sure David wanted to give it all to us. He's pretty generous that way.


yeah, I know David's pretty squared away about those things. My comment was as much tongue in cheek as anything
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 10, 2019, 08:09:31 PM
What's amazing is how much of the weapons in this game, could be ported to a current times game 33 years later.  Abrams, T-72/80, Mi-24, Apache. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 10, 2019, 08:31:38 PM
What's amazing is how much of the weapons in this game, could be ported to a current times game 33 years later.  Abrams, T-72/80, Mi-24, Apache.

Thing is how much they've changed though. A 1986 Abrams or Apache is not close to the same as the 2019 models. Same for the Soviet/Russian stuff. Same names, but very different equipment.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 10, 2019, 08:43:51 PM
What's amazing is how much of the weapons in this game, could be ported to a current times game 33 years later.  Abrams, T-72/80, Mi-24, Apache.

Thing is how much they've changed though. A 1986 Abrams or Apache is not close to the same as the 2019 models. Same for the Soviet/Russian stuff. Same names, but very different equipment.  Compare the 33 years from 1985 to now and from 1952 - 1985. 

Yea, I was thinking of that while I was typing.  Everything has been updated/modified, but there hasn't been a large amount of new systems. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 10, 2019, 08:51:51 PM
What's amazing is how much of the weapons in this game, could be ported to a current times game 33 years later.  Abrams, T-72/80, Mi-24, Apache.

Thing is how much they've changed though. A 1986 Abrams or Apache is not close to the same as the 2019 models. Same for the Soviet/Russian stuff. Same names, but very different equipment.  Compare the 33 years from 1985 to now and from 1952 - 1985. 


Yea, I was thinking of that while I was typing.  Everything has been updated/modified, but there hasn't been a large amount of new systems.

No one can afford it ;)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 10, 2019, 10:09:04 PM
Kind of like one point in the Honor Harrington books.  The Navy couldn't build new classes of ships, but they could modify existing classes.  Results were the same. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 11, 2019, 12:30:58 PM
It's fun watching that pledged amount move closer to the next stretch goal.  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 11, 2019, 11:19:24 PM
 :rockon:  over $48,000. That means Fulda winter maps.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Pinetree on February 12, 2019, 01:16:00 AM
It's down to averaging about $3000 per day, so the last stretch goal should hopefully be reached in a couple of days.

What a bargain for $70..

(https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/lnlp/storming-the-gap-world-at-war-85/minichart.png) (https://www.kicktraq.com/projects/lnlp/storming-the-gap-world-at-war-85/)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 12, 2019, 06:34:24 AM
This has to be one of the best KS packages (in a wargames context) for a long time. Seem little doubt that the 10th goal will not be achieved.

If they do a similar re-boot for the NaW system,  especially if it corrects some of the terrible glitches of the original games, then I would be sorely tempted.

However, as good as the price is at $70, for me it would also mean a further $22 shipping, plus VAT and UK customs tariff which would likely mean a final total of around double the 'base' price of $70.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Pinetree on February 12, 2019, 08:06:48 AM
Yeah, it's an extra $25 for me too but no extra customs duty luckily due to it being under $400 so still worth it.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 12, 2019, 08:09:31 AM
This has to be one of the best KS packages (in a wargames context) for a long time. Seem little doubt that the 10th goal will not be achieved.

If they do a similar re-boot for the NaW system,  especially if it corrects some of the terrible glitches of the original games, then I would be sorely tempted.

However, as good as the price is at $70, for me it would also mean a further $22 shipping, plus VAT and UK customs tariff which would likely mean a final total of around double the 'base' price of $70.


Bob, they have a UK distributor so you should not have to pay VAT and customs. It also costs me an extra $22 for shipping.... but that's the cost of getting things around the world....
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 12, 2019, 08:20:27 AM
I thought US shipping was going to be at least $17 which is understandable - it's going to be a lot of game to ship.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 12, 2019, 08:43:44 AM
Barth - I know that Andy at Limey Yank Games does act as a distributor for a few publishers and thus is able to offer a 'Euro-Friendly' shipping scheme on pre-ordered stuff only. However, LnL is, unfortunately, not currently one of them.

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Pinetree on February 12, 2019, 09:02:51 AM
Bob, LnL do theirs through Second Chance Games, iirc, and I'm pretty sure they offered Euro-friendly shipping when they had the big restock for LnLT last year.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 12, 2019, 09:07:03 AM
I'll probably be jumping on this, but need to check the timing of paychecks / property taxes to nail it down
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 12, 2019, 09:14:03 AM
This made me chuckle from the FAQ

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lnlp/storming-the-gap-world-at-war-85/faqs (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lnlp/storming-the-gap-world-at-war-85/faqs)


Will there be Vampires, Werewolves or other Supernatural phenomena in the storyline of the scenarios of the games, like in the old World At War series?

We jokingly call this the no monster edition, though the old World At War series had them: no, sorry, none in World At War 85. For myself, I feel that “military-horror” is an absolutely brilliant choice for a role-playing game genre (I would so play in that game and so would some of my friends!). However, this is not that game. The background world has been rewritten to correspond more closely to the real-world situation in 1985, sans the Supernatural. But even in that I have taken liberties, since any wargame is, in the end, an experiment in alternate history. But it is not a cross-genre endeavor: World At War 85 is all pure tanks and troops, no vamps or were-s’ included.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 12, 2019, 09:34:08 AM
Barth - I know that Andy at Limey Yank Games does act as a distributor for a few publishers and thus is able to offer a 'Euro-Friendly' shipping scheme on pre-ordered stuff only. However, LnL is, unfortunately, not currently one of them.

Bob, direct quote from David in the KS comments section:
Quote
We have a German partner and a UK partner. We did think about the issue with BREXIT.

Oh and shipping in Europe and Britain is only $20 USD for the base game and all the stretch goals.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 12, 2019, 09:36:49 AM
BACK IT! BACK IT!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 12, 2019, 09:51:55 AM
Yeah, this Kickstarter is so good that I think even if I had zero interest in the game I would have still ordered it.  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 12, 2019, 10:02:58 AM
Bob, LnL do theirs through Second Chance Games, iirc, and I'm pretty sure they offered Euro-friendly shipping when they had the big restock for LnLT last year.

Aye, I've  known Andy at SCG for years. I know he takes pre-orders, but i was not aware that this also includes KS, as they cannot be ordered through him, as far as I know.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Pinetree on February 12, 2019, 10:21:45 AM
Bob, LnL do theirs through Second Chance Games, iirc, and I'm pretty sure they offered Euro-friendly shipping when they had the big restock for LnLT last year.

Aye, I've  known Andy at SCG for years. I know he takes pre-orders, but i was not aware that this also includes KS, as they cannot be ordered through him, as far as I know.
What you'll find is that LnL will send all the UK KS orders to SCG in bulk and they will send them them on to UK customers with no Customs charges as they are being sent from within the UK. I found this out last year as my pre-order for Heroes of North Africa got mistakenly sent to SCG and he then sent it on to me in NZ.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 12, 2019, 10:26:18 AM
Pinetree, thanks for that info, its certainly not something that I was aware of - no doubt a classic case of me not looking in the right places :-)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Pinetree on February 12, 2019, 10:29:17 AM
Pinetree, thanks for that info, its certainly not something that I was aware of - no doubt a classic case of me not looking in the right places :-)
Then you have no excuse not to pledge. :) We want those Czechs, Get to it man!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 12, 2019, 10:38:28 AM
Sadly, as nice as it looks, its not a period I game - may be a different story if they do the same with NaW :-)

However, I do like the look of this:

https://store.lnlpublishing.com/trial-of-strength-second-edition
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 12, 2019, 05:42:12 PM
I gotta stop doing this.  I still haven't received my U-Boat or Warfighter Pacific KS games but I backed this one too.   I still haven't even played all the LnL Tactical games I own...

Anyone up for Heroes of the Pacific or Heroes of Normandy on VASSAL or TTS?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on February 13, 2019, 09:15:20 AM
Anyone up for Heroes of the Pacific or Heroes of Normandy on VASSAL or TTS?

Would like to watch and learn on this one.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 13, 2019, 09:36:05 AM
Barth and I can show you all the things not to do if you want to, you know, have your troops live and stuff.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Pinetree on February 14, 2019, 09:23:05 AM
10th Stretch Goal met. The pig has been well and truly kicked.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 14, 2019, 11:23:23 AM
The Czechs are coming!  The Czechs are coming!!!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 14, 2019, 02:31:27 PM
The Czechs are coming!  The Czechs are coming!!!


they're in the mail?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 14, 2019, 03:28:59 PM
The Czechs are coming!  The Czechs are coming!!!


they're in the mail?

Yes... chainmail!  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 16, 2019, 03:56:43 PM
Congrats to you guys who backed this one - its a heck of a good package for yer money  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Pinetree on February 17, 2019, 02:03:10 AM
But wait, there's more (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lnlp/storming-the-gap-world-at-war-85/posts/2418976).

The data cards don't excite me much but the third expansion and the final solo cards are nice goals.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 17, 2019, 06:02:07 AM
Impressive! Good luck with that  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on February 17, 2019, 08:00:39 AM
But wait, there's more (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lnlp/storming-the-gap-world-at-war-85/posts/2418976).

The data cards don't excite me much but the third expansion and the final solo cards are nice goals.


Yeah those solo cards are a real 'WANT!'. Too bad they are the last stretch instead of the next one up.  :(
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 21, 2019, 12:52:28 PM
Closing in on 70K and the first set of data cards (which I am interested in for minis play).
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 28, 2019, 04:15:21 PM
Looks like you may scrape the $80k goal.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on February 28, 2019, 07:02:51 PM
I'm hoping against hope for the solitaire stuff.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 28, 2019, 07:05:08 PM
Me too but I suspect that ain't gonna happen.  :(
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 28, 2019, 07:56:51 PM
I feel like I'm going to get my $80 worth ;)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 28, 2019, 08:06:04 PM
I thought you got one of the $60 levels.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 28, 2019, 08:26:34 PM
I feel like I'm going to get my $80 worth ;)

Oh, yeah. I'm not complaining. This is probably my best Kickstarter yet.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Pinetree on March 01, 2019, 12:49:16 AM
I'm hoping against hope for the solitaire stuff.
+1 but holding some cash to buy it as an addon in case
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on March 01, 2019, 06:13:08 AM
I thought you got one of the $60 levels.

I did, but I figure the shipping will come in at around $20.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on March 02, 2019, 03:57:55 PM
Looks like a decent chance this will reach the $85K stretch goal before it wraps up on 3/7.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on March 02, 2019, 04:30:08 PM
Aye, I saw that. Even so, that's still one heck of a package.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on March 02, 2019, 04:48:16 PM
Aye, I saw that. Even so, that's still one heck of a package.

 :2thumbs:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Pinetree on March 03, 2019, 07:41:31 PM
Aye, I saw that. Even so, that's still one heck of a package.
That's what she said....
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on March 03, 2019, 07:48:39 PM
Aye, I saw that. Even so, that's still one heck of a package.
That's what she said....

https://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=rimshot&play=true (https://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=rimshot&play=true)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on March 03, 2019, 09:51:47 PM
You guys have just UNLOCKED Stretch Goal 14

Data Cards for Storm and Steel Second Wave has an enlarged combat unit counter, and also lists any special functions of that unit, with rules references for them as well. We also show the movement and range in hexes but we include movement and range translated into 6mm, 15mm and 28mm scale for use when playing WaW85 with your favorite Miniatures system.

One Stretch Goal left to go, Stretch Goal 15 the Solo Assistant Card Set. We have until Thursday March 7, 10:00 am to reach the last Stretch Goal spread the word. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on March 05, 2019, 08:04:50 AM
Just over $5K to go until Solo Assistant!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on March 05, 2019, 08:13:37 AM
Just over $5K to go until Solo Assistant!

(http://www.aarcentral.com/emoti/please.gif)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on March 05, 2019, 08:15:49 AM
Damn successful KS. 5x the base goal.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on March 05, 2019, 09:07:37 AM
alright, I took the plunge.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on March 05, 2019, 09:09:56 AM
one of us...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on March 05, 2019, 09:54:35 AM
one of us...


it's not like I wasn't going to back it; just needed to make sure the paychecks were going to line up OK.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on March 05, 2019, 10:00:03 AM
I'm almost jealous!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on March 05, 2019, 10:07:27 AM
I'm almost jealous!


bet we could get one delivered to Origins for you to pick up :)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on March 05, 2019, 10:12:34 AM
No, its not that -  as a gamer, I'm really impressed with the package, but its just not a 'period' that I like to game. If it had been, I would have jumped in.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on March 05, 2019, 10:17:17 AM
No, its not that -  as a gamer, I'm really impressed with the package, but its just not a 'period' that I like to game. If it had been, I would have jumped in.


 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on March 05, 2019, 10:24:48 AM
On the other hand, I will be keeping an eye on this one from LnL.

https://store.lnlpublishing.com/trial-of-strength-second-edition
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on March 05, 2019, 05:08:42 PM
Currently at $92,252!  :o
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on March 05, 2019, 05:29:05 PM
I may have to get  tshirt to help push it past the 95,000
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on March 06, 2019, 06:04:39 AM
All 15 stretch goals unlocked! Awesome  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on March 06, 2019, 06:18:33 AM
(https://gif.gifsme.com/gifsme.php?img=https://66.media.tumblr.com/1921bcd13e12643771410200a322cb0e/tumblr_ogs5bcHWUc1udh5n8o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on March 06, 2019, 06:48:41 AM
Very excited about the Data Cards for minis play. This will make an excellent minis game.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on March 06, 2019, 06:50:07 AM
Great, now I have to start buying minis!  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on March 06, 2019, 06:55:34 AM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on March 06, 2019, 07:54:29 AM
Yay Solitaire!


Still a day to go- enough to add a TTS and VASSAL module stretch goal!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on March 06, 2019, 09:18:54 AM
Over $101,000
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on March 06, 2019, 09:42:20 AM
Still a day to go- enough to add a TTS and VASSAL module stretch goal!

Those were never stretch goals.  Vassal module was going to be part of the release.  Don't see any mention of TTS.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on March 06, 2019, 07:26:15 PM
I was just adding a little levity
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on March 07, 2019, 12:27:42 PM
Kickstarter closed.  $116,316 from 1,431 people.  I did go and pledged some more for a t-shirt also. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on March 07, 2019, 12:29:53 PM
Impressive.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on March 07, 2019, 12:39:31 PM
Kickstarter closed.  $116,316 from 1,431 people.

Damn. Very impressive.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on March 07, 2019, 01:15:24 PM
It is very impressive.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on March 19, 2019, 03:44:10 PM
Just confirmed my order. Shipping was $17 so $77 total for 1 copy of the game and all the stretch goals.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on March 19, 2019, 03:45:25 PM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on March 19, 2019, 03:50:06 PM
It's a helluva deal.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on March 19, 2019, 03:54:19 PM
Plus I think you can have more confidence in getting it on time than you would have done under the old LnL regime.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on March 19, 2019, 04:00:01 PM
There's that too
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on March 19, 2019, 04:02:54 PM
Hey now... don’t hate on Mark.... >:(
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on March 19, 2019, 04:19:54 PM
Just confirmed my order as well... $22 shipping to the GWN.... so $92USD... $122CAD.... :waah:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on March 19, 2019, 05:25:16 PM
Just confirmed my order as well... $22 shipping to the GWN.... so $92USD... $122CAD.... :waah:

Bah! Did you see the stretch goals? Still a good deal!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on March 19, 2019, 05:26:31 PM
Just confirmed my order as well... $22 shipping to the GWN.... so $92USD... $122CAD.... :waah:

Bah! Did you see the stretch goals? Still a good deal!

True. :rockon:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on March 19, 2019, 10:13:10 PM
How many days to confirm. Still on trip and want to do it from computer and not phone. Wont be home until Thursday
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on March 20, 2019, 02:32:10 AM
You have lots of time. At least a month or more.

EDIT

Just read a post from David Heath that the manager will be open until the end of April... unless the printing gets done faster then it will close earlier...

But you still have lots of time.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on March 22, 2019, 07:10:38 PM
Got my confirmation done yesterday. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on March 22, 2019, 07:12:30 PM
 :bigthumb:

....you're drooling down the front of your shirt.................
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Yskonyn on April 02, 2019, 02:57:09 PM
Their updates have slowed. I’d imagine thats good news because their production is going full steam ahead now? :)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on April 02, 2019, 03:05:05 PM
They've been sending out an email about once a week.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 03, 2019, 06:22:09 AM
 :D

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 03, 2019, 02:39:29 PM
Were the ring bound manuals extra? If so, how can I find out if I ordered them on my Kickstarter?

Components look fantastic
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 03, 2019, 03:58:51 PM
Yes ring bound we’re extra. $30.

Go back in to the post KS manager and you see what you pledged for.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Capn Darwin on April 03, 2019, 04:04:08 PM
Did you buy the rules pages corner clippers as well?  :ROFL:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 03, 2019, 04:40:08 PM
Yes ring bound we’re extra. $30.

Go back in to the post KS manager and you see what you pledged for.
Thanks. I'll go back and check. Do you think I'm able to "upgrade"? I've never done Kickstarter before, so I don't know...I will check myself, but just asking in case you know.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 03, 2019, 04:54:58 PM
Did you buy the rules pages corner clippers as well?  :ROFL:
Turns out my very expensive clippers won't be needed for this game as the counters are rounded anyway. What do you say to that, BH?  :waah:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 03, 2019, 09:37:26 PM
Yep, you should be able to add to your pledge.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 04, 2019, 01:53:00 AM
I can't seem to.

It says on the main page in the Add On Instructions that you click Manage Your Pledge at the top of the page,  but there's no option on the page for that. All I can see is the ability to see my pledge and a Pre-Order button
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 04, 2019, 07:40:03 AM
JD, using your confirmation email there should be a link at the bottom that says "Use this link to view and manage your pledge".

It should take you to CrowdOx page and part way down that page is a link to modify your pledge. See first pic.

It takes you to a warning about reopening your pledge. See second pic.

I didn't go further but in there you should be able to add or subtract anything you wish.

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 04, 2019, 08:32:08 AM
Ah...thank you very much BH. I had given up but that's exactly what I had to do.

I kind of wish I had given up...I thought it was $30 for both manuals...just spunked $66 on them!

But it is a birthday present (that no-one else bu me knows about!!)  ;D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 04, 2019, 08:38:45 AM
Happy to enable... err... help.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on May 02, 2019, 09:28:23 PM
Anyone else download the Vassal module yet.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on May 02, 2019, 09:30:44 PM
Downloaded yes. Looked at it? No.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on May 02, 2019, 10:10:29 PM
I downloaded it tonight.  The scenario is included in the downloadable rule set, so now I've got to read through the rules, and start giving them a try.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on May 14, 2019, 10:13:27 PM
US-China Possible Trade War and What it Means for You.

We have been flooded with questions about the possible 25% tariff and if that is going to change our current pledge amounts or raise any cost to any our backers.  Our short answer is no.

We do not expect to make any changes to any of our active Kickstarters (Space Infantry Resurgence or World At War 85 - Storming the Gap).  If 25% tariff is applied to us we will absorb any additional cost.  We made a commitment to our backers and we feel it is important we honor that. 

We do expect that it will cause us to raise the MSRP price once the game is released.

David Heath
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on May 15, 2019, 07:51:53 AM
👍
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Yskonyn on June 10, 2019, 11:49:36 AM
I missed that the Vassal module was out! Thanks for the heads up. Time to take a look!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on June 25, 2019, 06:54:16 AM
Bummer

Quote
WaW85: Storming the Gap was scheduled to be shipped out by the end of the July.  As of today, we have received some of the soft proofs but not any hard proofs.  After a discussion with our printer, we are estimating a 4-5 week delay.  As we received more details and updates we pass those along.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on June 25, 2019, 07:42:34 AM
Meh, I've got lots of new games to keep me busy, I can wait.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on June 25, 2019, 07:49:22 AM
What, you don't want to be like Mirth and have stacks of unopened games on the dinning room table.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on June 25, 2019, 08:19:54 AM
Meh, I've got lots of new games to keep me busy, I can wait.


What, you don't want to be like Mirth and have stacks of unopened games on the dinning room table.


just because the first is accurate doesn't mean the second isn't, also
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on June 25, 2019, 08:22:34 AM
Every game that enters my house gets opened, punched, and played.  8)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on June 25, 2019, 08:38:48 AM
Every game that enters my house gets opened, punched, and played.  8)

(http://www.aarcentral.com/pics/rota.jpg)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on June 25, 2019, 09:46:06 AM
Once punched and played, the Wife thinks they're all the same game. If he left them stacked and unopened, she would know how much he was spending.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on June 25, 2019, 10:04:15 AM
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/62381345/that-guy-above-me-he-gets-it.jpg)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on August 09, 2019, 02:41:30 PM
Quote
Final Game Samples On There Way
Our Printer emailed us and stated all the printing completed. The Printer will be sending us the final copies for review. Once we receive them and make sure everything is right, we will post it here with some pictures. After that, it's off to the shipping company.
Thank you all again for your patience and support.
- LnLP


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lnlp/storming-the-gap-world-at-war-85/posts/2590239
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on August 09, 2019, 04:46:52 PM
 :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on September 18, 2019, 07:02:29 PM
Have there been any updates on this lately? I'm growing sceptical that I'll have product in 2019. :(
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: trailrunner on September 18, 2019, 07:22:22 PM
Have there been any updates on this lately? I'm growing sceptical that I'll have product in 2019. :(

They sent an update a couple of days ago. Final proofs completed. Games being assembled, which will take a month. Then 4-6 weeks on a ship.

My over-under line is delivery by end of year.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 18, 2019, 07:41:13 PM
Might turn out to be a Christmas present
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on September 18, 2019, 07:50:02 PM
This why I don't do KS or pre-orders.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on September 19, 2019, 01:47:13 AM
They put a video up on Youtube to show the components...I think they filmed it on a potato.
The Youtube video starts to talk about Storming the Gap at 25:30


The link below is of better quality and the Storming the Gap component chat starts at 34 minutes
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lnlp/storming-the-gap-world-at-war-85/posts/2624455
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on September 19, 2019, 01:53:48 AM
I can't really remember what I get on the KS...do I get that second box with the expansions? If so, that's one freaking amazing purchase. If not, I thought I was getting a bargain anyway - but I will have to get those expansions
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 19, 2019, 06:10:38 AM
You get everything he shows in that video. Beyond fantastic deal. I can wait.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on September 19, 2019, 08:37:16 AM
Wow, that looks even better than a show about Space Mormons!  :o
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 19, 2019, 04:43:31 PM
This why I don't do KS or pre-orders.

It's not like you have a stack of unopen and unclipped games piled on the dinning room table.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on September 19, 2019, 04:52:30 PM
that helps too
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on September 19, 2019, 09:56:36 PM
I was hoping to get my copy in time for BottosCon (Nov 8th-10th) as I’d already put it in the schedule as host but that seems highly unlikely.  Fortunately Bottos reaches out to David Heath and he’s going to send a demo copy of the starter set for me to run.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 20, 2019, 05:53:50 AM
I was hoping to get my copy in time for BottosCon (Nov 8th-10th) as I’d already put it in the schedule as host but that seems highly unlikely.  Fortunately Bottos reaches out to David Heath and he’s going to send a demo copy of the starter set for me to run.


Lucky Hoping it shows before Christmas.....
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on September 20, 2019, 06:52:54 AM
They sent out an update today.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 20, 2019, 07:59:57 AM
Printing Complete and Next Stop will be the Container Ship.

Pre-orders will be closed on Sunday, September 22 at 6:00 pm Mountain Time.  If you know someone who wants World At War 85 now is the time to get it.  Below is a picture from our printer of the games.

Pre-Order: [https://app.crowdox.com/projects/lnlp/storming-the-gap-world-at-war-85](https://app.crowdox.com/projects/lnlp/storming-the-gap-world-at-war-85)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on September 20, 2019, 08:30:00 AM
I was hoping to get my copy in time for BottosCon (Nov 8th-10th) as I’d already put it in the schedule as host but that seems highly unlikely.  Fortunately Bottos reaches out to David Heath and he’s going to send a demo copy of the starter set for me to run.


Lucky Hoping it shows before Christmas.....

Planning on a little WWIII action to put you in that Christmas spirit?  :whistle:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 20, 2019, 08:38:23 AM
I was hoping to get my copy in time for BottosCon (Nov 8th-10th) as I’d already put it in the schedule as host but that seems highly unlikely.  Fortunately Bottos reaches out to David Heath and he’s going to send a demo copy of the starter set for me to run.


Lucky Hoping it shows before Christmas.....

Planning on a little WWIII action to put you in that Christmas spirit?  :whistle:

 :bigthumb:

Armageddon for the Holidays
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 20, 2019, 10:11:34 AM
uh guys...  anything coming from LNLP, or anyone else in Colorado, might be delayed more than you expect


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/topless-women-win-big-colorado-city-drops-ban-n1056701

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on September 20, 2019, 10:54:41 AM
Forget delays, I'm moving!  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 20, 2019, 02:20:35 PM
Yeah, that’s great and all but two things:
1 Ontario women have been able to go topless in public for about 15 years now but hardly any do.  :(
2 Those that do you Do Not want to see.  :sick:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on September 20, 2019, 06:40:51 PM
Anyway, there's probably a law up there against staring.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on September 21, 2019, 06:14:53 AM
Wear dark glasses..................
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on September 21, 2019, 07:39:38 AM
Wear dark glasses..................

But then the compliment will be missed.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on September 21, 2019, 07:48:16 AM
But at least you wont get a slap for....observing.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: BanzaiCat on September 26, 2019, 06:31:37 PM
As long as you don't slap whilst observing.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on September 27, 2019, 05:33:47 AM
Slap what, now?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on September 27, 2019, 06:28:23 AM
Slap happy?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on September 27, 2019, 06:38:26 AM
Slap dash?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 29, 2019, 01:19:55 PM
From David

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Live with Lock 'n Load Publishing

On Sunday, September 29, 2019, at 12:00 pm Pacific, 1:00 pm Mountain, 2:00 pm Central and 3:00 pm Eastern. Join us as we discuss World At War 85 - Storming the Gap and the Expansion Pack.

- http://bit.ly/Live-LnLP
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: trailrunner on October 13, 2019, 05:58:49 PM
I received an update via email today.  I think it's done being printed, and they hope to have it on a container ship by the end of the week.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on October 13, 2019, 06:08:34 PM
Saw that and agree.  :rockon:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on October 13, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Yep, they posted pictures videos on FB with everything being boxed up.  They sure enjoy teasing us. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on October 13, 2019, 07:37:16 PM
Assuming it gets on the boat, probably at least a month before any of us see a copy.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on October 13, 2019, 07:49:36 PM
I can wait.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on October 13, 2019, 07:53:26 PM
Not much choice in it
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on October 14, 2019, 01:37:44 AM
I received an update via email today.  I think it's done being printed, and they hope to have it on a container ship by the end of the week.
It's rather concerning that I've been receiving no such updates. The only place I get info on the product is from the Kickstarter page that I check occasionally

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on October 14, 2019, 05:43:14 AM
I received an update via email today.  I think it's done being printed, and they hope to have it on a container ship by the end of the week.
It's rather concerning that I've been receiving no such updates. The only place I get info on the product is from the Kickstarter page that I check occasionally

I've been getting the email updates, including the most recent one. Yours are either being flagged as spam or they don't have a correct email address for you.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on October 14, 2019, 06:11:42 AM
I received an update via email today.  I think it's done being printed, and they hope to have it on a container ship by the end of the week.
It's rather concerning that I've been receiving no such updates. The only place I get info on the product is from the Kickstarter page that I check occasionally

I think that Andy at Second Chance Games is the European distributor for LnL, plus a few other US publishers.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on October 14, 2019, 09:39:25 PM
My emails come from no-reply@kickstarter.com. As Mirth suggested, check you spam folder.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on October 15, 2019, 01:25:22 AM
Guys - for future reference I'm a computer programmer and I've been working in IT for the last 25 years...I don't get caught out with the spam thing.  ;D

No-one knows - so I'm just clarifying.

As for the email address - it's fine. I was getting the kickstarter information during the kickstarter period - goals met,  kickstarter complete.

Thanks Bob - maybe I'll contact Second Chance Games - perhaps they're just not sending out anything yet.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on October 15, 2019, 06:42:21 AM
Guys - for future reference I'm a computer programmer and I've been working in IT for the last 25 years...I don't get caught out with the spam thing.  ;D

Yes, that's all very well but did you make sure it's plugged in?  ;D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on October 15, 2019, 07:25:02 AM
Did you check your dongle?  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on October 15, 2019, 01:23:15 PM
Guys - for future reference I'm a computer programmer and I've been working in IT for the last 25 years...I don't get caught out with the spam thing.  ;D

Yes, that's all very well but did you make sure it's plugged in?  ;D
It has to be plugged in?  :2funny:

Did you check your dongle?  :D
Dongle is present  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on October 15, 2019, 01:24:48 PM
OK. Very impressive. Put it away again now, please.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on October 15, 2019, 01:33:25 PM
Did you turn it off and turn it on?  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: trailrunner on October 15, 2019, 01:35:16 PM
Did you turn it off and turn it on?  :bigthumb:

Sounds like you also work in IT.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: BanzaiCat on October 15, 2019, 01:41:37 PM
Great show

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/F7yLXA5fJ5sLC/source.gif)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on October 15, 2019, 07:26:19 PM
Did you turn it off and turn it on?  :bigthumb:

Sounds like you also work in IT.

Doubtful. He didn't say to wait 30 seconds in between.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on October 16, 2019, 09:57:05 AM
Did you turn it off and turn it on?  :bigthumb:

Sounds like you also work in IT.

Doubtful. He didn't say to wait 30 seconds in between.

39 years
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on October 16, 2019, 07:14:28 PM
OK, so the 30 seconds was implied then.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on November 04, 2019, 03:23:30 PM
Starting to sound like after the first of the year before we get it. Games are in the shipping container waiting to load onto a freighter.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on November 05, 2019, 01:35:15 AM
It would've been nice to have it for Christmas, but I've got plenty to occupy myself with.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on November 20, 2019, 06:11:49 PM
Maybe by Christmas for those of us in the US

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United States Bound Containers Update/Tracking
Here is some more news, Below is a screenshot of the three containers heading to the United States.  We are still waiting for the shipping company to provide the active UK/EU  vessel name.  This should be provided this Friday, Nov. 22.
Here is a screenshot of our containers and the ETA for them to be on the West Coast.  We will keep you posted.

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/027/286/896/f7521ac95749981fce0a52d8e66bb7c7_original.png?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&w=700&fit=max&v=1574287221&auto=format&gif-q=50&lossless=true&s=fd05cfbc26019fd0dd2d54991a8a2546)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on December 10, 2019, 08:12:24 PM
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US Update:  The Original Grognard (Devin) went and drove down to the Port of Tacoma on this wonderful wet and cold blustery day. Why? The ship carrying the 3 containers of the new shipment of games for Lock and Load Publishing is alongside the pier. He went up to the Port of Tacoma observation tower and got what shoots he could. The ship was hidden behind a big warehouse. But you can see the bow and the bridge.

What does this mean? Our containers are being loaded onto the rail lines heading to Cleveland Ohio. So we are getting closer to getting the games.   A BIG thank you goes out to Devin for the extraordinary effort and pictures. 


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UK/EU Update: Here is the latest update on the location of the cargo ships carrying our shipping Containers bound for Liverpool, England has now passed Singapore.   
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on December 12, 2019, 08:49:46 AM
Picture p0rn at Big Board Gaming FB page....

https://www.facebook.com/TheBigBoardGaming/photos/pcb.2646541948771690/2646540985438453/?type=3&theater

Click through lots of pics. 15 lbs package, ~1100 counters...  :D

Sooooon.

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on December 12, 2019, 09:03:19 AM
Thats a lot of counters to clip.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on December 12, 2019, 09:05:44 AM
Pretty sure they are cut with round corners. No clipping required.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on December 12, 2019, 09:06:03 AM
Pretty sure they are cut with round corners. No clipping required.

This.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on December 12, 2019, 09:10:12 AM
The new LnL counters come off the sprue nice and clean. I wish everyone did them that way. I wouldn't mind not having to clip.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on December 12, 2019, 10:00:01 AM
The new LnL counters come off the sprue nice and clean. I wish everyone did them that way. I wouldn't mind not having The kids are getting older and refuse to clip for me.

FTFY.   :peace:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on December 12, 2019, 01:26:50 PM
That looks like alot of lovely gaming. I can't wait - though I'll have to. 20th Dec at Suez
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on December 29, 2019, 05:26:53 PM
The Players Aid posted an unboxing video!  (https://youtu.be/jgyW2EX33lk)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on December 30, 2019, 05:52:49 AM
Can't wait...though it's going to be a while before it gets here. I doubt it'll get to me in January
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on December 30, 2019, 09:09:18 AM
Can't wait...though it's going to be a while before it gets here. I doubt it'll get to me in January

Really? Last tracking of the UK ship had it about to pass by Gibraltar. That was Christmas day.

(https://ci5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/yN5C3eZwg7sQrO2GPJpuwDBZbx-4rNkWI-VSdZ7Y7SBkhCEMor4ArZQEqM-7REoL6AIJhw9sQBxPul-23xvhxAv6Bb8BxYmp8vuy4Mh5B6drxPQnAx940y837dVI-8JbCdBYTTwUuDjjtdVjj3mnas2urd_GVL-qG-8TJPrPi4H-goYjG97ablGV853rK0TxcEfqokf7h2bZVSOSR971_mlywlnDks8tPlb18TJt2FGXVibP9rxn2tXk9FloolsIk89PCadP1HlQ4RTMyI9aXMdT0crJNPlxyjUOhg7z=s0-d-e1-ft#https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/027/583/880/bd7df9384b6e283f0e34174000991a51_original.png?ixlib=rb-2.1.0&w=700&fit=max&v=1577264899&auto=format&gif-q=50&lossless=true&s=d326fbc39ed06ceb012221f2fdc15052)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on December 30, 2019, 09:12:37 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/3krv9x.jpg)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on December 30, 2019, 09:13:02 AM
No telling how long it takes to get unloaded, get customs sorted, filter out illegal immigrants,  and the containers distributed, but you would think that it should be all done before the end of January?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on December 30, 2019, 09:13:15 AM
 @ bbmike - Have another bourbon.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on December 30, 2019, 09:21:33 AM
Prepare yer wallets....

From David Heath on BGG:
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Storm and Steel expansion part of the Kickstarter and the next game in the series is Blood and Fury and should be ready for KS by March.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on December 30, 2019, 06:09:22 PM
Update via email today:

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US/UK-EU Container Update
The UK-EU Shipment should arrive today in Antwerp and be in Liverpool on 01/08/2020.  I have received some confirmation on this today.  We still do not know if the containers are being trucked to the UK or placed on another ship and then being transported to Liverpool.
US Containers are now loaded into two (maybe more) 53" long trailers and on there way to our warehouse in Pueblo, Colorado.  The expected arrival date this Thursday or Friday, YES this WEEK.

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on December 30, 2019, 06:19:15 PM
Pueblo, Colorado

Isn't that where the government's underground pamphlet vault is?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on December 30, 2019, 06:24:07 PM
And surplus piles of wargames that are about to go critical.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on December 30, 2019, 06:36:00 PM
And surplus piles of wargames that are about to go critical.

My house could be declared a Super Fund site.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on December 30, 2019, 06:39:59 PM
Does the FBI or CIA know about this? How about Ikea? They would salivate at thought of all the shelving units they could sell ya.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on December 30, 2019, 06:44:43 PM
If Ikea finds out, the marketing emails will never end.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on December 30, 2019, 07:34:17 PM
If Ikea finds out, the marketing emails will never end.

Yeah but you can teach your kids how to pronounce all the furniture names so when they get back to your Ex's she'll think they're going around swearing in Swedish.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on December 31, 2019, 03:19:44 AM
I was going on the basis that a search for the MSC MIA showed it heading for Gdansk.

I'm well aware that LnL thought it would be in Liverpool by Jan 8th - I couldn't see how that was possible as it was heading through the English Channel to Gdansk only the day I posted.

I'll be very happy when I get it - I'm just not holding out for anytime soon.

Also I've written 3 times to Second Chance Games asking if they were the distributors (which they are - just looking for confirmation from them that they would've been in receipt of my order details) and asking if they had an update. No response to all 3.

But - I wait patiently. In all honesty, even when it gets here the likelyhood is I'll open it and go back to Combat!. Have I mentioned how superb that game is - warts and all?  >:D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on December 31, 2019, 06:54:27 AM
Have you tried asking Mark at SCG on his FB page? I've done that before and got a response off him.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on December 31, 2019, 01:52:07 PM
I'm not on FB. I'm not a Luddite - I just choose to come off the cesspit  ;D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 03, 2020, 11:18:49 PM
From David on FB 6 hrs. ago:

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The US Trucks are now unloading at our warehouse in Pueblo, Colorado. The warehouse team will need a few days to make sure everything is properly received and entered into inventory. We get some pictures and more updates shortly.

 :D

And then there's this:

Quote
As many of you know the vessel that the UK-EU container is on did not stop at the port of Antwerp and unload as was told to us. It is now in Poland docked and I assume unloading there. The only confirmation I received was it would be in Liverpool on January 10, 2020. They have not told us anything else. We have asked if it was the right ship? was there a mistake? I am promised more details early next week.

Sorry JD.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 04, 2020, 06:56:06 AM
lol - I'm cool about it. Combat! is taking all my time. It's actually the longest time I've not only had a boardgame out on the table, but consistently gone back to. I've had to pack it up off the table over Christmas but it was straight back out as soon as I had the chance.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 06, 2020, 02:04:09 PM
New FB update from David on FB:

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We were giving the wrong vessel name. The correct vessel is the MSC Mandy and it is in the UK. Our container should be in Liverpool on January 10, 2020.

 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 07, 2020, 01:50:43 AM
New FB update from David on FB:

Quote
We were giving the wrong vessel name. The correct vessel is the MSC Mandy and it is in the UK. Our container should be in Liverpool on January 10, 2020.

 :bigthumb:
Indeed...Showing in Bristol at present.  :bigthumb:

The US ship dropped a while ago didn't it? Does anyone have theirs yet?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 07, 2020, 05:49:13 AM
The US ship dropped a while ago didn't it? Does anyone have theirs yet?


Not yet; I think they were packing this week, so stuff should start sending out from Colorado pretty soon.


edit: David posted on CSW very early this morning
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The trucks drop off our orders on Friday. It will take a few days for the games to be placed into inventory and then we ill start shipping orders.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 08, 2020, 04:46:44 AM
lol - it's now left Bristol but it shows as heading to Greenock.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49349490558_01ca312069_o.jpg)

For those who don't know the layout of the UK...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49350172197_df05d242f9_o.jpg)

Ah well.....it'll get here when it gets here  ;D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on January 08, 2020, 06:38:31 AM
At least it's not headed to Sodor...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 08, 2020, 06:49:16 AM
Or Mordor?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 08, 2020, 05:51:36 PM
And it's passing Liverpool  :Loser:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49353370356_7dd58af95f.jpg)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on January 08, 2020, 06:22:17 PM
And it's passing Liverpool  :Loser:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49353370356_7dd58af95f.jpg)

Love that app, lets me know when the Fing bridge is gonna be up messing up my commute!!!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 09, 2020, 07:13:22 AM
Docked at Greenock  ;D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 09, 2020, 07:14:15 AM
Ahh, Glasgow  :dreamer: :dreamer: :dreamer:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 09, 2020, 07:16:01 AM
How I miss her. I actually woudn't mind a wee drive up there to pick the game up if they wanted to unload there.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 09, 2020, 08:41:50 AM
What game are we waiting on again?  :whistle:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 09, 2020, 08:42:50 AM
Docked at Greenock  ;D

And on it's way to Liverpool. Est is 1pm docking tomorrow.

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 09, 2020, 10:14:44 AM
What game are we waiting on again?  :whistle:
I'm not  ;D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 10, 2020, 01:55:39 AM
And...it's on it's way it seems. Docking today, on schedule

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49360451251_c12361322f_z.jpg)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on January 10, 2020, 08:17:58 AM
It looks lost to me!.. They all look lost!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 10, 2020, 08:42:32 AM
Meanwhile, intelligence agencies around the world continue to try to figure out why one Scottish man is so frantically tracking the course of the MSC Mandy.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on January 10, 2020, 08:46:43 AM
Meanwhile, intelligence agencies around the world continue to try to figure out why one Scottish man is so frantically tracking the course of the MSC Mandy.

 :ROFL:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 10, 2020, 09:02:30 AM
I used to go oot wi a lassie called Mandy. She was the size of a container ship too.  ;D

Oh - and it's docked. Now just wait and see if my order arrives...I wonder when it'll be...January or February?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 10, 2020, 09:05:37 AM
March
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 10, 2020, 09:18:36 AM
you could contact the fulfillment company (Second Chance Games?) about helping out with the packing/shipping of everyone's orders, provided yours is at the top of the stack?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 10, 2020, 09:51:03 AM
March
My birthday. That would be fine
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 10, 2020, 01:45:56 PM
Someone on FB crying about being able to dl the next book but not having the game yet.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/WorldAtWar85/permalink/501462383837821/
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 10, 2020, 01:48:34 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 10, 2020, 01:49:31 PM
I will say that using the names of people behind the game as characters in the book kinda kills the immersion for me.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 10, 2020, 01:51:51 PM
Havent read the books. Dont know that I will
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 10, 2020, 01:53:00 PM
Heres the original post

Quote
I received an email this morning with links to a novel about the actions portrayed in the Kickstarter game we are supposed to get.

I am sure this will get me flamed but frankly I don’t give a tinkers dam about a novel. First of all it’s been done before and likely better by guys like Clancy and Bond. I don’t care about a novel; I won’t read the novel; I won’t keep the novel.

I did not do Kickstarter for a novel. I did it for a game. And do far that has been zippidee do dah. I know...we’ve seen pictures of the game in China; we’ve seen a slow boat from China; we’ve seen maps and pictures of boxes in a Colorado warehouse. But so far no game in hand.

Since the wonderful warehouse pictures there have been no updates. For something that was supposed to be in our hands before Christmas all we have is a book. Oh boy. What joy. So where is the game??    What is the status??

I’m sure I’ll get flamed big time for being a naysayer but I would like what I paid for and have been waiting for months to receive.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 10, 2020, 01:59:01 PM
What a bunch of bullshit. They've been giving regular updates all along.

And boohoo, they sent links to a novel that is a bennie of the KS. How dare they send me free stuff?!

I don't like waiting any either, but it's what you get with KS (and any other pre-order for that matter).
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 10, 2020, 02:04:14 PM
Not to mention my $90 pledge has turned into what, $400 worth of game materials.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 10, 2020, 02:08:59 PM
Sigh. It's a Kickstarter project. Is this person not familiar with how Kickstarter works?  ::)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 10, 2020, 02:19:26 PM
Based on their FB picture, their a retiree.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 10, 2020, 02:20:48 PM
(http://edge.alluremedia.com.au/m/g/2016/06/old-man-yells-at-cloud.jpg)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 10, 2020, 02:28:54 PM
I will say that using the names of people behind the game as characters in the book kinda kills the immersion for me.

I listened to the audiobook. It was an OK light read. I don't mind the familiar names included, and a lot are from the community not just the company.
Looking forward to the second book.... BUT NOT IF COME BEFORE MY GAME DAMN IT! NO FREE SHIT BEFORE THE STUFF I PAID FOR!!!  :tickedoff:  :idiot2:  :Loser:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 10, 2020, 02:37:38 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 10, 2020, 03:02:26 PM
No crap. Look at the guys profile. He went to University of Pittsburg for Physics, Math, Chemistry, and English. And worked at Westinghouse Nuclear.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 10, 2020, 03:04:23 PM
No crap. Look at the guys profile. He went to University of Pittsburg for Physics, Math, Chemistry, and English. And worked at Westinghouse Nuclear.

And apparently went on to a PhD in Whiny Asshole
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 10, 2020, 03:19:12 PM
No crap. Look at the guys profile. He went to University of Pittsburg for Physics, Math, Chemistry, and English. And worked at Westinghouse Nuclear.

And apparently went on to a PhD in Whiny Asshole

Just about. He's a Lutheran pastor now. My wife is Lutheran and we go to her church. So, ya.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 10, 2020, 03:29:23 PM
No crap. Look at the guys profile. He went to University of Pittsburg for Physics, Math, Chemistry, and English. And worked at Westinghouse Nuclear.

And apparently went on to a PhD in Whiny Asshole

Just about. He's a Lutheran pastor now. My wife is Lutheran and we go to her church. So, ya.

 :2funny:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 11, 2020, 06:52:10 AM
They're starting to ship. So watch your emails.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 11, 2020, 07:45:10 AM
 :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 15, 2020, 11:47:30 AM
Anyone get a delivery notice yet?  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 15, 2020, 12:06:23 PM
No...but I did get this from Second Chance Games though after I contacted them

Quote
We do not have a shipping date and the products have not arrived with us as yet (customs clearance).  We are also awaiting some components to arrive from the USA which maybe a few weeks depending on your pledge level.  We will announce via our social media when we are sending out the kickstarter editions.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 15, 2020, 12:10:22 PM
Anyone get a delivery notice yet?  :D

I was about to ask this very question.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on January 15, 2020, 02:03:03 PM
 >:(
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 15, 2020, 03:52:53 PM
 ???
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 15, 2020, 03:58:20 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on January 15, 2020, 04:46:07 PM
 ???
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: trailrunner on January 15, 2020, 05:44:07 PM
Anyone get a delivery notice yet?  :D

I have not.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on January 15, 2020, 06:51:48 PM
I got a notice today...































.... that the vintage Sony hifi cassette deck I won on eBay will be arriving sooner than expected.  >:D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 15, 2020, 06:53:43 PM
I wonder who they're shipping to first? Several of us were very early backers.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 15, 2020, 08:39:29 PM
It appears to be completely random. Some Crowdox late pledge says he got a notice.

 :waiting:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 15, 2020, 08:42:51 PM
I was cleaning out one of my email accounts the other day and I came across my initial pledge email which was dated 2/6/19. So we're coming up on a year now. I'm not complaining. I know I'll get my game it will be well worth it. I'm just not sure I would have backed it if I knew it would be a year.


Guess it's best that I didn't know :P
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 15, 2020, 08:48:26 PM
Why does it matter how long it takes?
A) Still the best deal on a great game ever.
B) It’s not like you don’t a have tons of other games to play.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 15, 2020, 08:51:30 PM
Why does it matter how long it takes?
A) Still the best deal on a great game ever.
B) It’s not like you don’t a have tons of other games to play.

Just impatience on my part. I've never liked tying up money on games for long periods like this. Inevitably there will be delays and it always frustrates me a little. A quirk of my personality really, but it is why I stay away from most pre-orders and KS.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 15, 2020, 08:53:03 PM
At the same time, I try not to freak out about it on social media ;)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 15, 2020, 09:30:15 PM

.... that the vintage Sony hifi cassette deck I won on eBay will be arriving sooner than expected.  >:D

Basturd, I wanted that cassette deck   :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 15, 2020, 09:36:10 PM

.... that the vintage Sony hifi cassette deck I won on eBay will be arriving sooner than expected.  >:D

Basturd, I wanted that cassette deck   :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:

Upgrading from the 8-track?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on January 15, 2020, 09:52:46 PM

.... that the vintage Sony hifi cassette deck I won on eBay will be arriving sooner than expected.  >:D

Basturd, I wanted that cassette deck   :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:

auction:
(https://cdn1.iconfinder.com/data/icons/social-messaging-ui-color/254000/34-512.png)

Me:
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Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 15, 2020, 11:00:24 PM

.... that the vintage Sony hifi cassette deck I won on eBay will be arriving sooner than expected.  >:D

Basturd, I wanted that cassette deck   :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:

Upgrading from the 8-track?

DISCO FOREVER BABY!!!!!!   :rockon:

(http://www.modernisticon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/white-weltron-2001-8-track-player-radio.jpg)



Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 16, 2020, 02:52:29 AM
I'm not particularly fussed. The only thing that gets my anxiety up is forgetfulness. I once returned an item on eBay and every now and again I'd remember I needed to chase my refund...but I'd only remember when I wasn't near a piece of hardware that I could do that on.

I got my refund almost a year later

I've got plenty of games. It's almost here. I suppose it's also the buildup for some...something being so close and yet still so far away.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 16, 2020, 07:21:53 AM

I've got plenty of games. It's almost here. I suppose it's also the buildup for some...something being so close and yet still so far away.

This.

From LnL's posts, the games were in a warehouse in Ohio, which means when they went to Colorado, they passed with an hour of me.  I would have been more than happy to buy the truck drive a meal if I could have gotten then :)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: trailrunner on January 16, 2020, 07:22:36 AM
I'm not too concerned either.  MMP has been publishing ASL modules lately, and that has been keeping me busy.

When this game arrives, it will probably sit on my shelf for a while.  It will be a great value for the money spent.  It's only the second kickstarter I've backed, and I'll always be highly skeptical of any promised delivery timelines.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 16, 2020, 08:39:34 AM
I'm not too concerned either.  MMP has been publishing ASL modules lately, and that has been keeping me busy.

When this game arrives, it will probably sit on my shelf for a while.  It will be a great value for the money spent.  It's only the second kickstarter I've backed, and I'll always be highly skeptical of any promised delivery timelines.

This.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 16, 2020, 05:34:46 PM
FedEx picked up my order today at LnLP and scheduled delivery is Jan. 22.
 :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 16, 2020, 05:41:55 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on January 16, 2020, 06:25:44 PM
First goal goes to the Canadians...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 17, 2020, 12:13:57 PM
Got a voicemail from Fedex saying we’ll get dinged for customs fees.  Yay???
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 17, 2020, 12:45:44 PM
Hmmmm... nothing here yet...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 17, 2020, 01:12:22 PM
Did they specify which year you would receive? 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on January 17, 2020, 06:38:50 PM
The year before the UK shipment makes landfall?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 20, 2020, 06:13:54 AM
FedEx tracking now says my game will arrive today!!  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 20, 2020, 08:53:36 PM
H O L Y  C R A P! There is a shit ton of stuff in here!  :D

13 counters sheets each with 88 counters = 1144 counters!  :o
15 summer maps + 15 winter versions all single sided.
Core rule book, 4 x Module rule/scenario books.
Formation cards, miniature info cards, and a bazillion player aid sheets.
2 complete multi-scenario campaigns!

Plus the whole Solo package!




Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: trailrunner on January 20, 2020, 09:02:14 PM
Glad to hear that you've received your stuff.  Sounds like it was worth the wait.

I haven't heard a peep about when I'll get mine.  Have other people in the U.S. heard anything about their order?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 20, 2020, 09:08:46 PM
Barth,  did you get hit with any customs fees?

Mine's due to arrive tomorrow but I won't be home to accept it.  The tracking number I got from Fedex says I'm responsible for import fees.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 20, 2020, 09:43:19 PM
H O L Y  C R A P! There is a shit ton of stuff in here!  :D

13 counters sheets each with 88 counters = 1144 counters!  :o
15 summer maps + 15 winter versions all single sided.
Core rule book, 4 x Module rule/scenario books.
Formation cards, miniature info cards, and a bazillion player aid sheets.
2 complete multi-scenario campaigns!

Plus the whole Solo package!

1144 counters? That's going to take you a while to clip!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 20, 2020, 09:43:57 PM
Glad to hear that you've received your stuff.  Sounds like it was worth the wait.

I haven't heard a peep about when I'll get mine.  Have other people in the U.S. heard anything about their order?

I'm in DC and haven't heard anything either.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 20, 2020, 09:44:39 PM
Barth,  did you get hit with any customs fees?

Mine's due to arrive tomorrow but I won't be home to accept it.  The tracking number I got from Fedex says I'm responsible for import fees.

No fees here. FedEx just dumped it on my door step.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 20, 2020, 09:46:00 PM
H O L Y  C R A P! There is a shit ton of stuff in here!  :D

13 counters sheets each with 88 counters = 1144 counters!  :o
15 summer maps + 15 winter versions all single sided.
Core rule book, 4 x Module rule/scenario books.
Formation cards, miniature info cards, and a bazillion player aid sheets.
2 complete multi-scenario campaigns!

Plus the whole Solo package!

1144 counters? That's going to take you a while to clip!

No clipping required, counters just pop out of the sheets with no effort and already round corners.


Dick
 :biggrin:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 20, 2020, 10:33:50 PM
Glad to hear that you've received your stuff.  Sounds like it was worth the wait.

I haven't heard a peep about when I'll get mine.  Have other people in the U.S. heard anything about their order?

I'm in DC and haven't heard anything either.

Nada .
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 21, 2020, 06:11:46 AM
I was going to mention the clipping and then I remembered they were "easy-punch and rounded". Saves a job.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 21, 2020, 09:26:59 AM
 >:D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on January 21, 2020, 09:59:58 AM
Why did you guys take so long to get me into buying 'boardgames', now I'm bummed, I didn't hop on this kickstarter!!!  :'(
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 21, 2020, 11:20:08 AM
Why did you guys take so long to get me into buying 'boardgames', now I'm bummed, I didn't hop on this kickstarter!!!  :'(


it's not like we didn't talk about it for over a year....  ::)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on January 21, 2020, 12:36:29 PM
Why did you guys take so long to get me into buying 'boardgames', now I'm bummed, I didn't hop on this kickstarter!!!  :'(


it's not like we didn't talk about it for over a year....  ::)

Yeah, I was tempted then, but still hadn't taken an 'initial' plunge yet. Maybe better for me, I have yet to play Holland 44, Stalin's Triumph or Commands and Colours Napoleonics yet. Need to find someone to play with.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 21, 2020, 01:54:44 PM
Need to find someone to play with.


you have a son....  :peace:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on January 21, 2020, 03:29:40 PM
Need to find someone to play with.


you have a son....  :peace:

He's into Magic the Gathering (which I'm not into, try to play some to humor him). He has Gloomhaven, which I really like, but our other son is not interested, which is a bummer, much better with 3 players.

Anyways Eric moved into his apt in Boston this weekend, and I drove Craig back to UMass Amherst yesterday. I think once I get all the stickers on, I could probably convince Craig to try Command Colours and he'll probably like it. Craig's the younger one, he's always playing Paradox titles on the PC.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 21, 2020, 08:18:14 PM
Got my copy today.  God damn that's a lot of cardboard!  17 lbs worth.  I'm out of shelf space. Time to start selling some old stock off to make room.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 21, 2020, 08:40:21 PM
Time to start selling some old stock off to make room.

These words...they make no sense.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 21, 2020, 10:25:01 PM
I know!  But the collection has gotten way beyond untidy and well into hoarder territory at this point.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 21, 2020, 10:26:46 PM
 
I know!  But the collection has gotten way beyond untidy and well into hoarder territory at this point.

I fail to see an issue
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 22, 2020, 01:49:54 AM
I don't understand. What's SDR saying exactly?  :2funny:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 22, 2020, 07:29:56 AM
Indeed. "Hoarder" status is something to be proud of. Welcome to the fold.

And I have a feeling SDR is more of a cardboard harlot than even I am.  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 22, 2020, 08:43:30 AM
Still no word on shipping for me. I did get a shipping notice for The Fantasy Trip: Decks of Destiny. That's TWO big boxes due to arrive for me. Anyone know a good divorce attorney? (http://www.aarcentral.com/emoti/hide3.gif)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 22, 2020, 09:23:19 AM
Anyone know a good divorce attorney? (http://www.aarcentral.com/emoti/hide3.gif)

My ex had a good one.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 22, 2020, 06:39:21 PM
Got my FedEx notice.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on January 22, 2020, 06:48:47 PM
Was it directly from Fedex?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 22, 2020, 06:53:02 PM
Was it directly from Fedex?

Yes.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 22, 2020, 06:53:48 PM
Shipping today. EST is 1/28.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on January 22, 2020, 06:55:24 PM
Nothing from them for me. Maybe tomorrow?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 22, 2020, 06:56:03 PM
Hopefully. The wait has been killing me too.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 22, 2020, 07:21:50 PM
From David Heath on BGG:
Quote
SHIPPING UPDATE

We are still processing World At War Storming the Gap. We have completed about 1,000 orders of about 2,300. The size and weight seem to be slowing down the process.

All the Storming the Gap Monster Maps have shipped out.

David
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 22, 2020, 07:26:00 PM
It is 18.2 lbs of game.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 22, 2020, 07:32:57 PM
Got my FedEx email today also. 18.2 lbs.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 22, 2020, 07:35:50 PM
Delivery 22 Jan by end of the day. That means i wont see it until thursday night.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 22, 2020, 08:02:43 PM
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Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 22, 2020, 08:05:25 PM
Don't worry Brant, there are only 2299 people in front of you.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 22, 2020, 09:02:37 PM
Still no word on shipping for me. I did get a shipping notice for The Fantasy Trip: Decks of Destiny. That's TWO big boxes due to arrive for me. Anyone know a good divorce attorney? (http://www.aarcentral.com/emoti/hide3.gif)

Just do what men have been doing since the beginning of time.  Take her on a shopping trip and don't say a word about what or how much she buys.  And remember, yes, those pants make her butt look hawt.   >:D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 23, 2020, 10:36:44 AM
I'm a bit confused

From what I gather, Liverpool was to be visited on the 10th January. But I've just seen this update on the website
Quote
UK-EU Container is currently still scheduled for Liverpool for 01/27/2020 this was confirmed again today.

huh? I tracked the ship they told us and it docked in Liverpool on the 10th Jan. Also they say "still scheduled" - I couldn't find a post where they said that was the scheduled date at all.

Again - not bothered just confused  ???
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 23, 2020, 11:35:18 AM
They were originally given the wrong ship name.  That was the ship that had already docked, but their cargo wasn't on it.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 23, 2020, 12:07:06 PM
Yeah - I remember that. But when I checked and said it was docked, that was the new name

New FB update from David on FB:

Quote
We were giving the wrong vessel name. The correct vessel is the MSC Mandy and it is in the UK. Our container should be in Liverpool on January 10, 2020.

 :bigthumb:
Indeed...Showing in Bristol at present.  :bigthumb:

The US ship dropped a while ago didn't it? Does anyone have theirs yet?
I checked MSC Mandy - and it was docked in Liverpool on the 10th.  :doh:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 23, 2020, 12:31:47 PM
He sent out another update on 1/17. They were given bad information a second time.

Quote
Assuming this information is correct, the container will not be in Liverpool, UK until January 27, 2020.  The latest vessel is the MSC Alessia.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lnlp/storming-the-gap-world-at-war-85/posts/2732807?ref=ksr_email_backer_project_update_registered_users
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 23, 2020, 12:34:13 PM
oops   :2funny:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Adam on January 23, 2020, 02:58:48 PM
Just got a shipment notification.  Mine is supposed to get here on the 28th.  I wonder which will be longer: the time from when I backed the project to now or from now to the time in which I actually sit down and play the game with a friend  >:D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: trailrunner on January 23, 2020, 03:54:55 PM
I just received a shipping notice.  Mine is due to be delivered next Tuesday (28 January).  18 pounds.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 23, 2020, 05:02:11 PM
Yep, same as me. Due to arrive on the 28th. Due to play in 2023.  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 23, 2020, 06:51:26 PM
Already play scenario 1. Soviet win. Scenario 2 setup and ready to go.
After that.... 8 map Fulda campaign!!  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on January 23, 2020, 06:55:43 PM
I just got my notice as well... 21 pounds.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 23, 2020, 07:03:50 PM
Does everyone get a paperback copy of the first book? LnL just sent me a notice that says I'm getting the game and a copy of the book.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 23, 2020, 07:11:38 PM
I just got my notice as well... 21 pounds.

 :o Mine was 18 pounds. It might be a trap!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on January 23, 2020, 07:14:43 PM
Maybe mine comes with a 4 pack of craft brew?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 23, 2020, 08:37:09 PM
If only...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 24, 2020, 01:44:43 PM
shipping notice today; should be here Thursday
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 24, 2020, 04:34:33 PM
Started scenario 1 from Defense of Frankfurt, 8 map monster.

All setup on my 4x8 game table.

 :biggrin:

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on January 24, 2020, 06:34:24 PM
Damn, I think I can even see my german cousin's childhood home on that map...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 26, 2020, 08:28:59 PM
Wow.  Lots of typos on the player aids and in the rule book.  Some omissions, lack of clarity, and contradictory rules in there as well.  Could've done with some proof reading and some examples of combat IMO.

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 26, 2020, 08:31:07 PM
Wow.  Lots of typos on the player aids and in the rule book.  Some omissions, lack of clarity, and contradictory rules in there as well.  Could've done with some proof reading and some examples of combat IMO.

Sounds a lot like the original.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 26, 2020, 09:09:11 PM
Wow.  Lots of typos on the player aids and in the rule book.  Some omissions, lack of clarity, and contradictory rules in there as well.  Could've done with some proof reading and some examples of combat IMO.

Haven't seen any contradictions, at least I don't think so, but there are a few glaring errors and unclear/missing things. Some of it's just hard to find even with the huge index... which could have been larger still...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 26, 2020, 09:12:58 PM
That was a frustrating part of the original game. It's not a complex rule set, but it could be unclear and difficult to find things.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 26, 2020, 09:18:49 PM
Even the scenario I'm doing in the AAR, I've found 3 errors just in the setup instructions.

Overall though, I think it plays close enough to the original that if you've figured that out you can play this version. It is more streamlined. But HQs are still a little funky when you start a scenario... at least I think I have it right...

And it's fun and so far gives some sense for the weapon systems and difference between the combatants.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 26, 2020, 09:26:04 PM
I'm still not clear on the defensive bonus from terrain.  Does it apply to armoured units or not?  Section 10.4 seems to say that it doesn't but later on, it mentions armoured vehicles getting the extra defence dice.  If they do get the dice, do they still roll against their armour value or is it only 5-6 like soft targets?

Concealment says it offers a +1 bonus.  Does that mean units get +1 to their defensive die rolls or do they get an extra 1d6?

Transport rules 9.8.1 have a contradiction in the first two paragraphs.  The first paragraph says that if the transport and the passenger unit start in the same hex, the passengers can load and the transport can move 1/2 its MP.  The next paragraph says that a transport is marked Ops Complete the moment a passenger boards it.  I'm assuming that this refers to towed units only but it's not as clear as it could be.

 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 26, 2020, 09:26:53 PM
To be clear, whatever issues the original game had I stilled enjoyed it a great deal. I was hoping they had worked most of the bugs out in this one, but I'll be happy with improved counters as a start.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 26, 2020, 09:40:37 PM
I'm still not clear on the defensive bonus from terrain.  Does it apply to armoured units or not?  Section 10.4 seems to say that it doesn't but later on, it mentions armoured vehicles getting the extra defence dice.  If they do get the dice, do they still roll against their armour value or is it only 5-6 like soft targets?

Concealment says it offers a +1 bonus.  Does that mean units get +1 to their defensive die rolls or do they get an extra 1d6?

Transport rules 9.8.1 have a contradiction in the first two paragraphs.  The first paragraph says that if the transport and the passenger unit start in the same hex, the passengers can load and the transport can move 1/2 its MP.  The next paragraph says that a transport is marked Ops Complete the moment a passenger boards it.  I'm assuming that this refers to towed units only but it's not as clear as it could be.


Just re-read 10.4 and I can now see how you might think that. My first run through, I read it as for sure that ALL units got to add terrain defensive bonuses... but it could be read the other way I guess.

Concealment  - I read it as +1d6 because you need to be in terrain with a Defensive Bonus, which when you look at the TEC, there's a column that's called Defence Bonus and they are all +1d6.
My question for concealment is do you get when being shot at from a lower elevation even in you're in open terrain on a hill...?

Yeah that last statement in the second paragraph of 9.8.1 is just wrong. I think it was only meant to be at the end of the third paragraph.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 27, 2020, 05:42:35 AM
I don't even know if I've paid for this....have I paid for this? i.e. has the Kickstarter cash been collected?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 27, 2020, 06:18:51 AM
Yikes, I was hoping there would be a good tutorial or detailed example of play for this.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 27, 2020, 06:22:06 AM
I don't even know if I've paid for this....have I paid for this? i.e. has the Kickstarter cash been collected?

Yes... long ago....
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 27, 2020, 06:24:03 AM
Yikes, I was hoping there would be a good tutorial or detailed example of play for this.

There are some good videos out there.
This series does a pretty good job of explaining the basics of the game.


Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 27, 2020, 06:31:21 AM
Thanks, that's good to know.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 27, 2020, 06:34:14 AM
And despite all our bitching , it’s a pretty simple game to play. So it really doesn’t take that much to learn and figure out. Questions are being answered fairly quickly on LnLP forum, BGG, and the WaW85 FB page.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 27, 2020, 03:53:04 PM
Mines at the house. I won't be there until Thursday
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 27, 2020, 03:55:41 PM
And despite all our bitching , it’s a pretty simple game to play. So it really doesn’t take that much to learn and figure out. Questions are being answered fairly quickly on LnLP forum, BGG, and the WaW85 FB page.

It is fairly simple. Even with the problems of the old version, it wasn't too hard to figure out the rules.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 27, 2020, 03:56:42 PM
Mines at the house. I won't be there until Thursday

My copy is still on track for delivery tomorrow.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 27, 2020, 04:46:05 PM
Mines at the house. I won't be there until Thursday


That just gives you time to work on your Command article! :)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 27, 2020, 05:02:17 PM
Both this game and Decks of Destiny arrive tomorrow at the UPS Store. That's 27+ pounds of packages to pick up.  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 28, 2020, 02:09:20 PM
Having played a bunch over the weekend, I'm not entirely sold on the card instead of chit for formation activations. With only a few formations in a small scenario it's hard to randomize/shuffle only 3 or 5 cards where 3 or 5 chits is a cup feels more random...

Having multiple cards with different moral and command ranges on them to represent different formations or the same formation with different stats is a cool idea, but I feel that could be done with chits too.

With the very large scenario I'm playing now though, the formation deck is more manageable from a shuffling point of view....
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 28, 2020, 02:24:04 PM
Good news:  box got here a day early!

Bad news: box got here right as this major conference call started for the work, where I'm running the screen for at least half of it
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 28, 2020, 02:24:30 PM
Having played a bunch over the weekend, I'm not entirely sold on the card instead of chit for formation activations. With only a few formations in a small scenario it's hard to randomize/shuffle only 3 or 5 cards where 3 or 5 chits is a cup feels more random...

Having multiple cards with different moral and command ranges on them to represent different formations or the same formation with different stats is a cool idea, but I feel that could be done with chits too.

With the very large scenario I'm playing now though, the formation deck is more manageable from a shuffling point of view....


So you're saying that the cards just ain't chit ?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on January 28, 2020, 03:08:38 PM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: trailrunner on January 28, 2020, 04:34:33 PM
Mine arrived about 7pm last night. Probably won’t have a chance to open the box until Friday.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 29, 2020, 04:08:44 PM
Picked up today from the UPS Store.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 29, 2020, 04:12:44 PM
How are you getting it past you wife?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 29, 2020, 04:18:01 PM
The box is so big, there's no way of sneaking it in.  :-\
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 29, 2020, 04:24:22 PM
The box is so big, there's no way of sneaking it in.  :-\


open box in car and sneak in individual boxes from inside.  It'll take you 2-3 days, but you'll get it all in eventually

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 29, 2020, 04:43:31 PM
Or, just be the man of the house, put you foot down, and tell her how it's going to be.  :whistle:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on January 29, 2020, 07:04:44 PM
Or, just be the man of the house, put you foot down, and tell her how it's going to be.  :whistle:

I'm sure gonna miss that bbmike. Poor guy...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 29, 2020, 07:35:09 PM
I'm  hoping for a youtube video of it.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 29, 2020, 07:49:56 PM
Here's how it would go down:

(https://i.imgflip.com/3nm16h.jpg)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 29, 2020, 08:07:03 PM
My wife didn't say anything about my purchase, or about my game purchases at Christmas time.  Didn't even ask for me to pay for it out of my Christmas and birthday money.  However, two weeks ago she said she wants a new Suburban.  Then this weekend, she announced she wants to look at new furniture for the living room.  I think I've been out maneuvered.. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 29, 2020, 09:00:09 PM
she wants to look at new furniture 


She's going to help you pick out a new game table ?!?!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on January 29, 2020, 09:13:48 PM
More like a couch for me to sleep on, when I'm not traveling for work  :oh:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 30, 2020, 10:53:25 AM
Anyone in the UK got a notification? I shouldn't imagine so as it only docked yesterday
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 30, 2020, 09:10:41 PM
This is a crap ton of game


(https://i.imgur.com/n4ZCJ7g.jpg)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 30, 2020, 09:37:42 PM
plus a book you didn't want, that clearly weighed down the ship to make it take an extra month to arrive
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 30, 2020, 09:40:46 PM
Not to mention the solo rules I'll never use.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on January 30, 2020, 09:54:34 PM
Love the solo rules. And the components of the game are absolutely beautiful.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 31, 2020, 01:41:24 AM
Sorry - my memory is shite - was the solo expansion part of the Kickstarter?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 31, 2020, 03:06:14 AM
Sorry - my memory is shite - was the solo expansion part of the Kickstarter?

I can assure you, I did not add the solo expansion on my own.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on January 31, 2020, 03:11:29 AM
proper WOW. Thanks. Very excited. I was able to play the original with "an open mind" - but a solo expansion would be cool.

Also Barth - I'm with you on the activation cards. I wasn't too keen on the idea when I first saw them and thought chits worked very well.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on January 31, 2020, 03:17:34 AM
proper WOW. Thanks. Very excited. I was able to play the original with "an open mind" - but a solo expansion would be cool.

It does look pretty cool. I may try it out.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 02, 2020, 04:24:32 PM
package arrived - check
back home from work travels - check
done with homework - check

Finally get to open the package. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 02, 2020, 04:52:14 PM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 02, 2020, 08:00:09 PM
So, does it make me a good parent if I let my daughter punch out the counters?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 02, 2020, 09:42:38 PM
So, does it make me a good parent if I let my daughter punch out the counters?


(https://media.tenor.com/images/ce72e687ea2b682b602642ad9bff9b85/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 03, 2020, 07:26:06 AM
Better if you let her clip the corners of the counters.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 03, 2020, 07:30:27 AM
Got to play the first learning scenario with a buddy this weekend. Pretty much the same game, but it does look a whole lot better. Excited about the unit cards with the ranges for minis play at various scales.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on February 03, 2020, 07:14:59 PM
Any rumors of a TTS module in the works?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 03, 2020, 09:25:27 PM
Any rumors of a TTS module in the works?

Not that I've heard.... but there's a VASSAL mod due out next week.
I'd make a TTS mod but have no idea how....
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on February 03, 2020, 09:41:10 PM
I'll keep an eye out for that VASSAL mod since there is no way in hel I'll be able to fit my new dead tree version  on a table for proper play any time soon.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 03, 2020, 10:22:54 PM
I ordered a t-shirt with my order.  Very disappointed in it.  It just a giant piece of plastic on the front of a t-shirt.  I doubt it will last 4-6 months. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: trailrunner on February 04, 2020, 05:55:00 AM
I unpacked the shipping box but was too busy to do anything beyond that. Boy, those boxes of games are heavy.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Boyerwulf on February 05, 2020, 08:13:51 AM
I unpacked the shipping box but was too busy to do anything beyond that. Boy, those boxes of games are heavy.

 Mine came as well, and it might be the heaviest kickstarter box I have ever received. 18 pounds I believe?  Only Gloomhaven, and 7th Continent, to my memory even rival it in weight.
 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 05, 2020, 08:48:25 AM
Without hijacking this thread, what do you think of 7th Continent?

(we should probably start a new thread, huh?)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Boyerwulf on February 05, 2020, 09:09:23 AM
Without hijacking this thread, what do you think of 7th Continent?

(we should probably start a new thread, huh?)

 Don't be foolish Brant. It's still in the box unplayed of course.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 05, 2020, 05:55:27 PM
 :ROFL:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 06, 2020, 01:52:13 AM
15mm minis

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 06, 2020, 07:40:07 AM
Looks good  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 06, 2020, 04:03:44 PM
Couple more pics.  We were using minis from Tanks!/Flames of War: Team Yankee and just goofing around with the rules to compare/contrast WaW85 vs.  Tanks!   

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 07, 2020, 08:49:56 PM
Yeah.. so just got a $45 bill from FedEx for import fees for the game.... WTF!  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 07, 2020, 08:55:03 PM
 :o
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 07, 2020, 09:47:34 PM
Wait, they charging you after the fact, or holding it hostage?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on February 07, 2020, 09:49:59 PM
He's already playing it, so...

Vance, why didn't you have it sent to your Nuke York postal address?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 07, 2020, 10:34:19 PM
'Cause the KS said Canada friendly shipping....  :waiting:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 08, 2020, 12:13:24 AM
Someone on the KS page mentioned getting charged import fees and I think it was David Heath directed them to open a support ticket
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 08, 2020, 07:13:15 AM
Never saw that but I submitted one just to see what happens.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 08, 2020, 03:05:35 PM
So Canada is charging almost as much i taxes as the game itself?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 08, 2020, 03:13:13 PM
Someone on the KS page mentioned getting charged import fees and I think it was David Heath directed them to open a support ticket

Yeah, that was me when I got a call from Fedex telling me there'd be a charge.  I wasn't charged during delivery and haven't heard anything yet.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 08, 2020, 04:33:07 PM
Someone on the KS page mentioned getting charged import fees and I think it was David Heath directed them to open a support ticket

Yeah, that was me when I got a call from Fedex telling me there'd be a charge.  I wasn't charged during delivery and haven't heard anything yet.

Yeah I got a bill 2 weeks after...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 08, 2020, 04:35:37 PM
That's kind of retarded, charging you after the fact.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 08, 2020, 04:37:36 PM
So Canada is charging almost as much i taxes as the game itself?

$10 FedEx handling
$19... import duty
+HST on handing
+ HST on duty

(HST=Harmonized sales tax=combination of provincial sales tax and federal sales tax)

 :P
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 11, 2020, 01:57:30 AM
I thought when they said shipping is dealt with I just assumed there'd be no taxes - no extras. To pay tax on top of the cost of the game (and almost as much as the game) is shocking. I thought tax was meant to be a percentage of the cost - not whatever they want.

Second Chance Games have the games apparently
Quote
UK-EU Update: The container has arrived at Second Chance Games and the games are being arranged for shipment. Please, everyone, refrain from calling SCG to let them get everything ready and orders out the door. Once orders start shipping we will let everyone know.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 11, 2020, 06:25:16 AM
I thought when they said shipping is dealt with I just assumed there'd be no taxes - no extras. To pay tax on top of the cost of the game (and almost as much as the game) is shocking. I thought tax was meant to be a percentage of the cost - not whatever they want.

Second Chance Games have the games apparently
Quote
UK-EU Update: The container has arrived at Second Chance Games and the games are being arranged for shipment. Please, everyone, refrain from calling SCG to let them get everything ready and orders out the door. Once orders start shipping we will let everyone know.

LnLP responded to my FB post about FedEx and said they’d look into my support ticket I raised. They thought it was off too so there’s hope.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on February 11, 2020, 06:28:54 AM
Just out of curiosity, what's the general shipping cost situation between the UK and Canada? Is it as bad as between the US and UK?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 11, 2020, 06:31:50 AM
I suspect it likely will be. You would have to hope that LnL did some homework to make sure that people would not be hit by any extra charges though. DH seems like a pretty genuine and clued-up bloke, so maybe its just a screw-up somewhere down the line by the shippers.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 13, 2020, 12:31:15 AM
I got my notice from Fedex today as well.  $41.73 charge. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 13, 2020, 01:34:14 AM
That is such bad news. Pisspoor
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 13, 2020, 06:14:57 AM
That really is bad. Anybody have a response from LnL about it yet?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 13, 2020, 06:21:33 AM
I got my notice from Fedex today as well.  $41.73 charge.

That’s just weird that it’s a different amount..... ???

Haven’t heard back from LnLP support yet but they are busy...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 13, 2020, 02:24:46 PM
Just saw someone on FB said they got a ship notice from Second Chance games. Hope that means you on the Old Country will be getting it soon.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 13, 2020, 04:52:24 PM
Nothing here yet  :waah:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 13, 2020, 08:42:31 PM
I got my notice from Fedex today as well.  $41.73 charge.

That’s just weird that it’s a different amount..... ???

Haven’t heard back from LnLP support yet but they are busy...

I got a reply within a day.  They said they’re looking into it.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 13, 2020, 09:21:14 PM
I got my notice from Fedex today as well.  $41.73 charge.

That’s just weird that it’s a different amount..... ???

Haven’t heard back from LnLP support yet but they are busy...

I got a reply within a day.  They said they’re looking into it.

Was that an automated reply.. cause I got one of those...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 13, 2020, 10:03:09 PM
I don't think it was automated but I do suspect it was a cut and paste response.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 14, 2020, 06:22:29 AM
Latest KS update email:

Quote
Canada Update #2:   We are aware some KS backers are being charged additional fees on their shipments.  At this time we do not know why some shipments are getting through with no fees and others are not.  FedEx looking into this for a possible solution. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 17, 2020, 04:51:19 PM
Still no notice yet
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 17, 2020, 04:53:18 PM
 :(
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 17, 2020, 04:57:18 PM
Yeah. Ive' seen a guy in Oxford, England and Scotland get their box/notifications...

Just patiently waiting hoping nothing has gone wrong and my order has slipped through the cracks  :whistle:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 17, 2020, 04:59:59 PM
All I can say is it's worth the wait.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 17, 2020, 05:36:24 PM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 18, 2020, 05:52:59 AM
Vassal module is available

http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:World_At_War_85:_Storming_the_Gap

I don't understand - they give the game away for free as a Vassal module? How does that work? The rules are online and so anyone can read the online manual and play the game.

I'm not bothered about it - just wondering how they financially justify it. Personally I couldn't see me playing it on Vassal because boardgaming loses something in transition to the computer screen.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 18, 2020, 06:14:44 AM
The scenario and module special rules will never be made available online. So yes, you can play the demo scenario and make up yer own to play. It actually Is a good marketing tool.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 18, 2020, 06:22:10 AM
Ah I see.

I did notice that Battle Hymn manual is online but the scenario manual and setup is not.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 18, 2020, 10:19:23 AM
Thats the way it works with most, but not all, Vassal mods. Usually, at least one player need to own a physical copy of the game in order to have critical information - rules /charts / scenario details.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 19, 2020, 05:04:13 PM
Still....waiting....patiently....

I have to try and find some more patience from somewhere - I'm running out knowing it's being delivered all over Europe and the UK and I've had no notice as yet  :waah:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 19, 2020, 05:09:09 PM
JD, that really is extremely annoying. I'd be jumping up and down if it were me, and trying to find someone to moan at :-)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 19, 2020, 05:41:58 PM
That's what I've got you lot for  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 19, 2020, 05:51:10 PM
What about the other dozen new games you've purchased recently.  Surely you haven't had time to play them all yet.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 19, 2020, 05:57:55 PM
What about the other dozen new games you've purchased recently.  Surely you haven't had time to play them all yet.

I'm glad you said it  ;D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 20, 2020, 02:08:42 AM
What about the other dozen new games you've purchased recently.  Surely you haven't had time to play them all yet.
lol - I know

But my frustration is more concern really. Until I get my notification, I don't have a game for my money. I'm certainly not going to play it when I get it but I will punch it and bag it, check out the components and probably keep the manual out.Irrational? Probably.

I've got 20 games. All are opened, punched and clipped (it's like the smell of a new book or a new car...can't help myself).

Of those,  5 haven't been played.

Of those 5, 2 are due to space and map sizes (Holland '44 and Ardennes '44) and game space restrictions (although I actually have played part of Holland '44 - so I at least got that to the table for a short time), Space Empires because Combat! bit me and kept me from getting it to the table, Silver Bayonet because at the time I had Holland '44 on the big table and Battle Hymn! Gettysburg and Pea Ridge - which will be rectified after my AAR on Combat has finished which will be this weekend.

So after this weekend, only 4 will remain unplayed and now I have no cat (she passed away bless her - only 6 years old), I can have the big table all the time and so I'll be able to get Ardennes '44 and Holland '44 .

My gameplay sequence is likely to be (space permitting)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 25, 2020, 12:07:19 AM
Barth, hear anything back from LnL regarding the Fedex situation yet?  I've poked them a few times but got zero response.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 25, 2020, 01:41:06 AM
This was posted on the Kickstarter site
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@ N L

FedEx - Canada

I am hoping for an answer to the FedEx-Canada issue in his early week. FedEx has been very disappointing in their handling of this.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 25, 2020, 02:15:00 AM
bugger...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 25, 2020, 06:17:40 AM
Yeah, I’ve heard nothing either... I haven’t paid have you? Worried they’re gonna charge interest soon....
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 25, 2020, 10:40:17 AM
Nope.  Haven’t paid but the deadline’s looming so I was hoping that LnL would have a solution.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 25, 2020, 11:58:40 AM
I feel very sorry that you guys have had so much bother with this. I hope LnL can resolve it to everyone's satisfaction.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 27, 2020, 10:49:33 AM
mmmmm

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49592546602_5c0f23dbd5_z.jpg)

 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on February 27, 2020, 11:01:53 AM
You'll believe it when you see it.  ;D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 27, 2020, 12:08:22 PM
So, is Bob your preferred neighbor

mmmmm

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49592546602_5c0f23dbd5_z.jpg)

 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 27, 2020, 12:09:23 PM
He would be 😁
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 27, 2020, 01:27:28 PM
Yep, no worries. I'll look after it for you  :biggrin:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 27, 2020, 02:56:26 PM
Not looking good with the whole Fedex kerfuffle.  LnL is suggesting store credit.  Not pleased with this idea at all. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 27, 2020, 03:11:04 PM
Yeah, that would be less than optimal...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 27, 2020, 03:16:26 PM
that's not cool  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 27, 2020, 03:36:58 PM
Especially as LnL's shipping rates are pretty bad and we'd have to pay customs fees again if we were to order anything.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on February 27, 2020, 03:45:09 PM
Especially as LnL's shipping rates are pretty bad and we'd have to pay customs fees again if we were to order anything.

If they are going to go the store credit route it should 2-3x what you are having to pay out of pocket in fees.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 27, 2020, 04:51:07 PM
As it stands now, LnL are going to find it difficult to get anyone to commit to similar ventures in the future, unless we see some satisfactory outcome. I'm not saying that the fault lies with LnL, but its they to whom the mud will stick.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 27, 2020, 05:06:32 PM
Yeah - how many people would've back a $70 game knowing they were going to get humped for another $50?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 28, 2020, 10:26:16 AM
erm....that is alot of content and some heavy shit

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49595679083_d33d50fe1c_b.jpg)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 28, 2020, 10:36:00 AM
 :bigthumb:

Also a lot of fun. I'm really enjoying play it.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 28, 2020, 10:37:09 AM
Blimey!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 28, 2020, 10:47:28 AM
The main box is ripped along the edge at the bottom. What's the score? Would they replace the box? Should I bother to even ask and just celotape it together myself? What would you guys do?

Pieces are cracking though.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 28, 2020, 10:59:32 AM
If the box is easily fixed, me personally, I wouldn't bother with getting it replaced.
If you want a pristine copy to sell some day, the go ahead and ask. I'm sure LnLP will have no problem sending you a new box.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 28, 2020, 11:52:26 AM
Thing is - I won't be selling this anytime soon. If I was to sell it - (quite some time from now), then it would be well used anyway - I don't think I'll bother.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on February 28, 2020, 12:04:43 PM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on February 28, 2020, 12:44:16 PM
The main box is ripped along the edge at the bottom. What's the score? Would they replace the box? Should I bother to even ask and just celotape it together myself? What would you guys do?

Pieces are cracking though.

I've fixed stuff like that before using PVA wood glue - it gives a very strong joint and its clear when it dries.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on February 29, 2020, 03:01:38 AM
Cheers bob - I'll give that a go.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on February 29, 2020, 05:54:48 PM
Glad you finally received it JD!!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 03, 2020, 07:08:34 PM
Just in case you missed this Barth.

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FedEx claims these are Canadian fees and taxes and we are still disputing this. Since we promised our Kickstarter / Crowdox backers these orders would be Canada Friendly we are going to have these charges re-billed to LnLP. We are truly sorry this issue has occurred and will make different arrangements for Kickstarter Campaigns in the future.

After going back and forth with FedEx and no solution to correct these invoices, we have finally today (March 3, 2020) received approval today to have these invoices transferred to LnLP, leaving us a very limited window to have these charges transfer to LnLP.

All of the following information and must be complete and to us within the next 10 days to be transferred. If an item is not provided, incomplete and or incorrect FedEx will not allow the bill to transferred and in cases you will be expected to pay the additional fees.

Please reply to or open a Support Ticket via our Support Ticket at http://support.lnlpublishing.com and provide all the required information below.

1) Full name and shipped to address.

2) Scanned PDF of your Invoice showing the Invoice Number, Customer Name, Address, and Amount Due.

3) Order Tracking Number.

Once we have received a confirmation from FedEx we will let you know. Again we are sorry for this inconvenience and thank you for your support and business.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on March 03, 2020, 07:28:14 PM
Thanks!  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on March 04, 2020, 01:45:11 AM
wow. That's gonna sting!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 04, 2020, 03:16:18 AM
Yup.  Good on them for stepping up though. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on March 04, 2020, 05:59:42 AM
Yes, it is. It sounds like FedEx are very much the villains in this instant.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on March 27, 2020, 01:12:40 PM
Matt Hayes is playing / blogging a Drive on Giessen campaign over at CSW


http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX?14@@.1dcdf9c7/56362 (http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX?14@@.1dcdf9c7/56362)

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on March 27, 2020, 02:37:26 PM
Cool.

I've been working trying to run this as a blind all around forum game. Could be a nightmare to run but I'm thinking I'm gonna have time over the next couple of months...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 16, 2020, 04:24:49 AM
So I started reading the rules - very well presented and well laid out...superb job - however there are a couple of things that reminded me of a couple of "bug bears" from my original game...


Apart from that I am really enjoying reading these rules.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Pinetree on April 16, 2020, 08:31:49 AM
I've played 3 games of solo with the Solo Assistant and it's great fun. Letting it do it's thing is the most important part, I've seen a few videos and AARs where people override it nearly every turn when it would do something they thought was wrong or didn't make sense.

I had one instance where the SA had manoeuvred it's units into assault range and I was all ready for it to do so next activation. It's next card draw had the units stay in place and fire instead and I almost overrode it as it needed to capture those positions for victory but thought I'd play it out and see what happens. It ended up decimating my units with point blank fire and was able to pretty much walk in to my positions next activation. It was very impressive and showed me to leave it alone except for the really dumb moves. Great game and looking forward to playing more.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 16, 2020, 09:03:06 AM
I've played 3 games of solo with the Solo Assistant and it's great fun. Letting it do it's thing is the most important part, I've seen a few videos and AARs where people override it nearly every turn when it would do something they thought was wrong or didn't make sense.

I had one instance where the SA had manoeuvred it's units into assault range and I was all ready for it to do so next activation. It's next card draw had the units stay in place and fire instead and I almost overrode it as it needed to capture those positions for victory but thought I'd play it out and see what happens. It ended up decimating my units with point blank fire and was able to pretty much walk in to my positions next activation. It was very impressive and showed me to leave it alone except for the really dumb moves. Great game and looking forward to playing more.

I agree Pinetree, people are too quick to override the SA. Just let it play out and see what happens. Same is true for the LnLT SA.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 16, 2020, 11:29:22 AM
I found exactly the same thing when using the solo assistant for LnL Tactical... Leave it alone...it'll do just fine.

I also took the view that even if it doesn't, sometimes dumb decisions are made.

I'm looking forward to getting this setup
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 16, 2020, 12:57:19 PM
I'm really enjoying it. Lots of decisions, fast playing, great looking.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 16, 2020, 01:24:27 PM
Are you used to the cards now? I was like you - thinking what was wrong with the chits.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 16, 2020, 01:27:21 PM
Well, for large scenarios with lots of formations, the cards work fine.
For small scenarios with only a few formations I still don't like it. Chits would work better.

Still probably gonna make my own set of chits, basically just tiny cards that can go in a cup/bag to be drawn.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 18, 2020, 05:46:38 AM
I've just got through punching the counters and putting them in baggies. THANK THE LORD these were easy punch, rounded counters. It would've taken forever to punch and clip all those counters
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 19, 2020, 02:27:52 AM
I haven't got this too the table yet...I'm hoping to do so in the next few days...but what's the footprint like? Looking at all the aid cards, it looks kinda large, though I know you can just have the PACs as a group until you need one
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 19, 2020, 07:29:43 AM
The normal scenarios are not the large, 1,2,or 3 maps. You never need ALL the PAC. The most important are the Sequence of Play, Every Die Roll in the Game, Terrain Effects, Combat Modifiers, and the one with Missile capabilities on one side and Other capabilities on the other. If you got the great neoprene Matt with all the track then that.
So maybe 3’x5’ table.

The monster scenarios in Defence of Frankfurt cover my 4’x8’ table.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 25, 2020, 12:09:56 PM
I started the first scenario today and I just wanted to throw a few checks in early on...see if I'm missing anything

I'm playing the solo assistant for BOTH sides - just to see how it pans out. I've got the cards set into 3 stacks...the base cards in the middle, the defensive cards to the left and the attacker cards to the right. Who ever is the side to go, I roll 1 d10 and on a 2 or less, they choose the specific card (defence or offence) and 3 and above they choose the generic card.

1. Soviets came on and moved 6 spaces...I Op Fire them when they get within range (6th space). I rolled 4 dice for M1A1 in woods looking for a To Hit of 5 or better correct?
2. Soviets rolled 4 dice looking for a Armour Save of 5 or better (no terrain bonus) correct?
3a. Next Soviets come on and move 3 spaces. Two T-80s open up on the M1A1 in woods. They roll 4 dice (3 inherently for a T-80 +1 for the second T-80 for volley fire) looking for a To hit of 4 or better correct?
3b. What's the point of volley fire? They only get one dice meaning 4 instead of 3 - but if they were to roll separately, they'd get 6 (2x3)?
5. The M1A1 rolls 5 dice for Armour Saves (4 inherently +1 for woods) correct?

Some observations...
This really isn't as deadly as I thought it would be. You'd be surprised rolling 4 To Hit die how many dice and how many times the roll is under the To Hit value of 5.
Why does the T-80 have a better To Hit number (4 to the M1A1's 5)...is it's targeting really better?

I haven't even played the first turn yet - that was just the opening impulse where the Soviets had the initiative.

Anyway - back to the game.....I'll let you know how playing the Solo Assistant for both sides goes.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 25, 2020, 01:06:47 PM
There is one thing I noticed about the Solo Assistant right away.

The Solo Assistant suggests you pull one card for each unit or one card for the whole formation (recommended) and all of the formation abide by the order set.

I pulled a Defence card for NATO and there was a T80 in range of the M1A1 so the order was FIRE. However, the other two units in my formation were not in range and so had to sit it out. What I really wanted to do was to re-deploy my infantry and also Move & Fire with my other M1A1.

I'm not really a fan of that...I'll play along for this outing and see how it pans out. I can see the reasoning...HQ's giving the orders as opposed to units acting independently - but it does mean you could have (as I did) 2/3rds of your formation doing nothing (though they would obviously be available for Op Fire)

We'll see
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 25, 2020, 02:54:37 PM
Then again...Russian T80 just rolled 5*5 and speed it an M1A1 which rolled 4*1 and 1*2 and the HQ stacked with it
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 25, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
There is one thing I noticed about the Solo Assistant right away.

The Solo Assistant suggests you pull one card for each unit or one card for the whole formation (recommended) and all of the formation abide by the order set.

I pulled a Defence card for NATO and there was a T80 in range of the M1A1 so the order was FIRE. However, the other two units in my formation were not in range and so had to sit it out. What I really wanted to do was to re-deploy my infantry and also Move & Fire with my other M1A1.

I'm not really a fan of that...I'll play along for this outing and see how it pans out. I can see the reasoning...HQ's giving the orders as opposed to units acting independently - but it does mean you could have (as I did) 2/3rds of your formation doing nothing (though they would obviously be available for Op Fire)

We'll see
Actually - I think it just means use the same card for the formation - not use the same order when it says
Choose one orders card for the formation and evaluate each unit/stack in the formation versus the same Orders card (recommended)

So it's cool - take each unit/stack and evaluate it's situation against the orders on the card. Makes total sense now DUH!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 25, 2020, 05:34:52 PM
It takes a fair amount of table space and yes - I do need all those reference cards!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49819260442_1a33ea6b4f_h.jpg)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on April 25, 2020, 06:23:44 PM
Impressive! Wish I was sitting there to play. Put the kettle on, JD  ;)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 25, 2020, 08:31:52 PM
I started the first scenario today and I just wanted to throw a few checks in early on...see if I'm missing anything

I'm playing the solo assistant for BOTH sides - just to see how it pans out. I've got the cards set into 3 stacks...the base cards in the middle, the defensive cards to the left and the attacker cards to the right. Who ever is the side to go, I roll 1 d10 and on a 2 or less, they choose the specific card (defence or offence) and 3 and above they choose the generic card.

1. Soviets came on and moved 6 spaces...I Op Fire them when they get within range (6th space). I rolled 4 dice for M1A1 in woods looking for a To Hit of 5 or better correct?
2. Soviets rolled 4 dice looking for a Armour Save of 5 or better (no terrain bonus) correct?
3a. Next Soviets come on and move 3 spaces. Two T-80s open up on the M1A1 in woods. They roll 4 dice (3 inherently for a T-80 +1 for the second T-80 for volley fire) looking for a To hit of 4 or better correct?
3b. What's the point of volley fire? They only get one dice meaning 4 instead of 3 - but if they were to roll separately, they'd get 6 (2x3)?
5. The M1A1 rolls 5 dice for Armour Saves (4 inherently +1 for woods) correct?

Some observations...
This really isn't as deadly as I thought it would be. You'd be surprised rolling 4 To Hit die how many dice and how many times the roll is under the To Hit value of 5.
Why does the T-80 have a better To Hit number (4 to the M1A1's 5)...is it's targeting really better?

I haven't even played the first turn yet - that was just the opening impulse where the Soviets had the initiative.

Anyway - back to the game.....I'll let you know how playing the Solo Assistant for both sides goes.

So only a 1 or 2 on a D10 they do what they are supposed to be doing ie attacking or defending? Seems kinda low odds for that.

1. M1-Abrams, not M1A1s, but correct.
2. Correct.
3a. You can't use volley fire with Move and Fire. Otherwise yer math is correct.
3b. Volley fire: for example  2 x T-80 platoons vs 1 M1. You get to attack with 4 x d10 looking for 4 or better vs 4 x d10 looing for 5. If you attack separately you get 3 x d10 looking 4> vs 4 d10 looking for 5> and then another 3 x d10 looking 4> vs 4 d10 looking for 5>. So effectively when attacking singly you are 6 d10 looking for 4> vs 8 d10 looking for 5>.
It's better odds of getting more hits, which also is really important if the defender is in an improved position where the 1st hit is absorbed by the IP.
4. What happened to 4?
5. Correct.

Remember that these are M1s not M1A1s. The M1 only has a 105mm gun. The T-80 is sporting a 120mm gun. So it's not just To Hit but Killing Power in the rolls.
Put an HQ on a pair of T-80 and volley fire. Lots of things will go BOOM very fast!


Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 26, 2020, 01:20:01 AM
Thanks Barth

Regarding the low odds doing what they were meant to...normally there's 12 defence/offence cards mixed in with 30 base cards. So the chances of pulling the "optimal" card is 1 in 2.5. With a 1-2 being used on a D6, the chances of pulling the appropriate card is 1 in 3. That's how I figured it.

Looks like I should've looked at the rather extensive units cards that came with the game which would've told me it was an M1 and not an M1A1 (why is the T80 missing from those cards?). Actually looking through those unit cards, I seem to be missing a few. I'm not sure what ones I should have, but there are NO Russian unit cards marked with Storming The Gap. The only Russian unit cards I have are stamped Defence of Frankfurt. Nevermind - I found them buried under the massive amount of goods you get with this game!

Thanks for explaining Volley Fire. I suppose there is a slight benefit...but a benefit none the less.

I don't know what happened to 4  :nerd:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 26, 2020, 07:33:37 AM
You don’t have to look at the units card for the M-1, it’s marked right on the counter as M-1Abrams.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 26, 2020, 09:15:55 AM
You don’t have to look at the units card for the M-1, it’s marked right on the counter as M-1Abrams.
Oh aye 😁
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 26, 2020, 09:18:11 AM
Impressive! Wish I was sitting there to play. Put the kettle on, JD  ;)
If only. Solitaire is cool...I like my own company. But I sometimes wish I was playing with a pal.

None of my kids are remotely into it and neither is my wife.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 26, 2020, 01:09:33 PM
Ok. Russians won the first outing. Easily. They had 9 T80s to the US 2 M1s and an infantry unit with a TOW ATGM and an M113 which isn't really helpful at all except as transport.

I don't think the US had a chance in this scenario. Has anyone who played this won at the US? If so, how?

Also I gave up playing the Solo Assistant part way through. It just wasn't much fun tbh. It was just an experiment to see how they'd play it together anyway. It seemed like it might work...if you don't mind making any decisions at all...not even when up Op Fire

I'm now going to give the scenario another go to solidify the rules and evaluate the Solo Assistant properly as the Soviets
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 26, 2020, 02:42:04 PM
Oh - and how is this for an attack (red - needing 4 or above) and defence (white - needing 5 or above)!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49821970052_5decde30a6_b.jpg)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on April 26, 2020, 03:29:01 PM
oy!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 27, 2020, 06:48:35 AM
Oh - and how is this for an attack (red - needing 4 or above) and defence (white - needing 5 or above)!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49821970052_5decde30a6_b.jpg)

Yep, had a few of those myself.  :tickedoff: :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on April 27, 2020, 08:22:23 AM
Play it in Vassal. You'll never see that.  :whistle:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 27, 2020, 09:15:17 AM
Play it in Vassal. You'll never see that.  :whistle:

When are we having a game?
 :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 27, 2020, 04:56:47 PM
Impressive! Wish I was sitting there to play. Put the kettle on, JD  ;)
Bob - if you fancy a vassal game, let me know and we can arrange a time at the weekend. I will warn you, because my memory is bad, I'm often referring to the rules - but they're very well laid out and it doesn't take long to look something up.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on April 27, 2020, 05:02:03 PM
 :bigthumb:

I used to play the original version, but got a bit disillusioned with the 'old' LnL way of doing things (its a long story). I don't know if the rules have changed much since then.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 28, 2020, 02:01:14 AM
If you let me know what rules or procedures got yer back up I can try and let you know whether they've changed or not.

I would say this isn't necessarily my favourite scale. Having a platoon of of M1s or T80s taken out in one attack can make for a short game and can be brutal.

I would prefer a game like MBT (which I had back in the early 90's but never played) - but I've not had the courage to buy it with my memory of the rule book and tables being "WTF!!".
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 28, 2020, 07:31:00 AM
To anyone who has played this with at Solo Assistant

Where the order priority is specified in the manual (for example Priority-RED) it says
Quote
An AEO unit(s) within Point Blank range of a PL unit of any type will attempt to perform these orders first

It then goes on to say
Quote
The AEO unit must legally be able to perform the action

My question is regarding the legally bit. Does it require LOS? The manual says the 3 prerequisites for combat are appropriate weapon FP,  LoS and range.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 28, 2020, 09:12:35 AM
Yes, if it can't see it then it can't shoot at it.  ???
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 28, 2020, 09:15:09 AM
:bigthumb:

I used to play the original version, but got a bit disillusioned with the 'old' LnL way of doing things (its a long story). I don't know if the rules have changed much since then.

Bob, the rules are free to download to read:
https://forums.lnlpublishing.com/resources/world-at-war-85-core-rules-pdf-edition.283/
Even epub for yer Kindle:
https://forums.lnlpublishing.com/resources/world-at-war-85-core-rules-epub-edition.307/

And a changes doc:
https://forums.lnlpublishing.com/resources/waw85-new-features-changes-from-1st-edition-to-2nd-edition.284/
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 28, 2020, 10:26:06 AM
Yes, if it can't see it then it can't shoot at it.  ???
My example was a bit poor - though I know you're answer is the same...

The reason for my confusion was because I had a T80 behind a hill. It was actually the Yellow Order - so for Effective Range - and the first part of the order was FIRE - which it couldn't do because there were no US units in LoS. However the next order was a Move and Fire and had I moved, I would've been able to fire. So I thought I should play that - then I was thinking "But he doesn't know the US are there...."

There are also other examples (that make you think LoS doesn't matter), particularly in the Secondary order group - something like Move Towards Closest PU. This is also the case on the Counter Actions sheet.

I guess I'm asking for confirmation that LoS matters in ALL these orders or whether LoS is only taken into account when being told to fire or move and fire.

Here's an example of a Counter Action
Quote
AEO closest to PU thats Fired - Fire or Move towards
- is LoS required here or just simply as said - closest PU that Fired?

I think it's hard for me sometimes to translate the orders of the Solo Assistant because I'm not sure if LoS is a prerequisite. If LoS is required for all Solo Assistant orders and Counter Actions when a Player Unit is specified, then I'm good and that's all the clarification I need.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on April 28, 2020, 10:37:02 AM
Ah, got you.

When it says move to closest PU, then choose the closest, even out of LoS.

But you need LoS to fire.

So, Move and Fire, move to get in LoS then fire if you made LoS.

Just as how a human would do it.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on April 28, 2020, 10:38:51 AM
Thank you
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 02, 2020, 09:24:46 AM
I had an odd one today.

Scenario 1
The Red Priority order was Assault if AEO FP > PU

The US unit in range was an Infantry unit with ATGM and an M113 on a hill, in woods in Improved Position.

The Russian units (HQ, 2xT80) were 3 hexes away. Ideally, they would've fired. HQ bonus plus Volley fire would've given the Russians T-80 = 3 + Volley = 4 + HQ bonus = 6 dice.

Also - they would be Op-Fired on whilst closing...anyway - the order is the order - after all, there are bad commanders, right?

I closed. Sure enough the US opened up with their ATGM. 1 T-80 disrupted. Missile check is good...so no check for reload. Onwards. Next hex they are attacked by a reduced M1...miss.

Into the pit they go.

The M113 doesn't get to assault (no AP FP). The Infantry do and score 1 hit so the T80 is disrupted. There are no save rolls in assault - as the manual puts it - it's a knife fight. Then the T80 attacks (the assigning of damage doesn't happen until all combat is done between two units). Hit on the infantry...Disrupted.

So - the result was both sides have 1 disrupted unit. As the Soviets didn't score more hits than the US, the Soviets have to retreat to another hex.

However - after all that........was I able to use the ATGM in assault? The reason I thought I may be able to was because the infantry do not have a black triangle (meaning their ATGM does not have a minimum range at which it can be used...however, I didn't because it doesn't have assault values (bottom right of the counters).

Was I right not to use the ATGM?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on May 02, 2020, 10:15:12 AM
Yes. The only that counts in Assaults in the Assault value.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 02, 2020, 11:14:06 AM
 :bigthumb:

I'm going to progress of Scenario 1 after this. It's short and sweet and allows you to learn the basics...but it's small.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 13, 2020, 04:32:17 PM
I can't remember if I posted in here about it, but the extra money I paid for the ring bound manual was well worth the price. The manual is great and it is a god send being able to flip through, open, fold open...just such a cool piece of kit.

I'm really glad I went back and added it to my kickstarter order.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 13, 2020, 04:50:44 PM
Also - this guy has done some videos on the Campaign Drive on Giessen - and he really makes the rules seem simple. I mean, they kind of are - but I constantly have to/want to look up the rules to double check...he just lays it out, plays it and makes it look proper simple

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 15, 2020, 06:14:42 PM
I'm going to have to watch a few videos on the Solo pack. I'm not really feeling it.

I don't know how different this solo pack is to the LnL Tactical solo pack, but I got on with the latter far more than I'm getting on with the former
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 18, 2020, 06:13:25 AM
Watched a video...didn't help much at all even though it was over 40 minutes. Basically it reiterated what was in the Solo Assistant manual with some additional flim flam.

I've re-read the Solo Assistant example of play and I know what to do - it's just awkward.

The Solo Assistant manual says you pick a unit, then a card (Page 21 - the writer selects the M113 then plays a card) and deal with the order.

Regarding the cards - where you may think you pick a unit, then a card then play one of the options, you'd apparently be mistaken - sometimes.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49908728867_706004037c_h.jpg)

When you take a card, the Priority orders are for the unit you selected and as long as the parameters are right (LoS, range, correct weapon type). However the confusion occurs (at least for me) when you get to the Secondary orders.

These state things like AEO in 0 DB hex closest to a unit or VO and AEO closest to a unit. So my confusion comes from the fact that you select a unit, go through the priority orders and if none of them are relevant and none of the secondary orders are relevant, you scan your formation for a unit that does fit the bill.

But fit the bill for what? The Priority orders? The Secondary orders? I guess so.

BU that's my confusion...selecting a unit then playing the card, checking the orders against the unit and then checking other units in your formation...but then you'd do that anyway because - the card is used for the whole formation.

It does specify in the Solo Assistant rules (page 14 bottom of section 6.4.2) that if you get to the bottom of the card and the unit cannot perform an action, it does nothing.

I think I may have cleared my confusion by laying it out here...thanks for wasting your time  :ROFL:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 18, 2020, 12:49:16 PM
I'm now a bit confused about helicopters. The rules have several sections taking about NOE helicopters and city hexes, but the terrain effects chart days NOE helicopters are prohibited   :waiting:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on May 18, 2020, 01:24:21 PM
I should think that flying NOE in a city is a bit dodgy
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 18, 2020, 01:31:45 PM
I should think that flying NOE in a city is a bit dodgy
They done it in Die Hard  :rockon:

But I agree. TEC says no, but manual has several examples whilst talking about unit height and terrain.

I think I'll er on the side of caution and NoE is no go over cities - there. Confusion over.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on May 18, 2020, 01:35:48 PM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on May 18, 2020, 04:50:57 PM
I'm now a bit confused about helicopters. The rules have several sections taking about NOE helicopters and city hexes, but the terrain effects chart days NOE helicopters are prohibited   :waiting:

This was just covered in a FB chat. The rules are correct. The TEC is wrong. NOE helos spend 1 MP to enter, woods too.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 18, 2020, 05:43:11 PM
Oh! I am surprised.

Oh well...better re-read the rules on helicopters  :hehe:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on May 18, 2020, 06:29:45 PM
Helos at NOE in cities or woods do not get the TEC for hex though. They assumed to be just above the terrain.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on May 18, 2020, 06:34:01 PM
I suppose you could argue that if they are flying above the trees / buildings, then they are not flying NOE?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on May 18, 2020, 06:42:52 PM
Well, NOE is flying just above the terrain... no matter what it is... if it’s grass or wheat or trees, or buildings.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on May 18, 2020, 10:28:16 PM
They done it in Die Hard  :rockon:

They done it with Harriers in True Lies.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 19, 2020, 12:59:01 AM
Well, NOE is flying just above the terrain... no matter what it is... if it%u2019s grass or wheat or trees, or buildings.
I was just about to agree but thought I'd check and actually wiki defines NoE as

Nap-of-the-earth (abbreviated NOE) is a type of very low-altitude flight course used by military aircraft to avoid enemy detection and attack in a high-threat environment. During NOE flight, geographical features are used as cover, exploiting valleys and folds in the terrain by flying in, rather than over, them

Point still stands though...Cities could be flown through
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on May 19, 2020, 06:27:58 AM
They done it in Die Hard  :rockon:

They done it with Harriers in True Lies.

I loved that film - daft as it was.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on May 19, 2020, 06:53:28 AM
Well, NOE is flying just above the terrain... no matter what it is... if it%u2019s grass or wheat or trees, or buildings.
I was just about to agree but thought I'd check and actually wiki defines NoE as

Nap-of-the-earth (abbreviated NOE) is a type of very low-altitude flight course used by military aircraft to avoid enemy detection and attack in a high-threat environment. During NOE flight, geographical features are used as cover, exploiting valleys and folds in the terrain by flying in, rather than over, them

Point still stands though...Cities could be flown through

Changed the bolding to make my point. Says nothing about trees and cities.
But still, if you choose to fly over a city or woods hex instead of going around you make your helos more vulnerable to AA, so it's still a choice.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 19, 2020, 07:27:02 AM
lol - yeah - I'll fly around  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 24, 2020, 05:20:32 AM
Can you destroy bridges (apart from checking for fire) or is it always defined in scenarios
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on May 24, 2020, 06:45:57 AM
So far, I don't think bridges can be destroyed except by fire or SSR. Future modules might have engineering units that have that ability.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 24, 2020, 12:51:45 PM
SSR?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 24, 2020, 01:02:17 PM
SSR?


Scenario-Specific Rule
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on May 24, 2020, 04:34:00 PM
You know, since this is a war game site maybe we should have a thread that is nothing but acronyms. I still miss some of the non gaming ones like smh?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bob48 on May 24, 2020, 04:40:14 PM
Good idea! Where do you think we should put it?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on May 24, 2020, 04:57:46 PM
You know, since this is a war game site maybe we should have a thread that is nothing but acronyms. I still miss some of the non gaming ones like smh?

smh
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on May 24, 2020, 05:32:05 PM
Good idea! Where do you think we should put it?

Maybe pinned at the top of References & Research?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: trailrunner on May 24, 2020, 05:34:43 PM
Good idea! Where do you think we should put it?

IDK
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on May 24, 2020, 05:42:48 PM
Good idea! Where do you think we should put it?

here:  https://lmgtfy.com/?q=acronym+list&s=g
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 25, 2020, 02:53:03 AM
A question for Barthheart if I may (or anyone playing the game)

Direct Fire
Do the Point Blank, Long Range  rules apply to everything? Infantry? Helicopters?

It doesn't say in the rules...but I'm guessing they do. It makes sense that infantry can fire longer than their effective range but less effectively. I was pretty good with an SLR at 600m. I was less effective at 1km
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on May 25, 2020, 06:45:14 AM
A question for Barthheart if I may (or anyone playing the game)

Direct Fire
Do the Point Blank, Long Range  rules apply to everything? Infantry? Helicopters?

It doesn't say in the rules...but I'm guessing they do. It makes sense that infantry can fire longer than their effective range but less effectively. I was pretty good with an SLR at 600m. I was less effective at 1km

Short answer yes.
Long answer, there are some exception based on firing platform and target. Like vehicle HE firing at helos don’t get point blank and can’t use Extended range.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 25, 2020, 07:25:31 AM
Just going through the rules again, I see in sections 10.6.4 and 10.6.5 that point blank range and long range are not available for CAS and on board indirect fire

Would helicopters be considered CAS?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on May 25, 2020, 08:35:28 AM
No.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 25, 2020, 08:57:28 AM
Cool. Thank you
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 25, 2020, 10:27:05 AM
Last one for today.

Your think I haven't read the rules, but I've read them through one and I've referenced each section as I come to our in the game...but I'm unsure about this

When a unit attacks a hex with 2 units in it, what if the save dice and required rolls are different?

For example a T62 (save dice=3 + required roll=6) with BMP-1 (save dice=1 + required roll=5).

Does the player get to choose what unit to use as the save roll check?

And presumably if the attacking player was using HE, then he'd only be able to stack the BMP and so the defending player wouldn't get to choose which save rolls to use?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on May 25, 2020, 10:42:37 AM
When you attack a stack you get to choose the target, as long as the weapon type you are suing can attack it.

So in your example you are correct, an HE attack against that stack would only be able to target the BMP.

But is an M-1 was attacking, it could choose either the T-62 or the BMP.
Now, the best choice for the target, in this case would be the BMP because it's easier to kill and any "overflow" hits will automatically be tallied against the T-62.
So, it's not always, read: rarely, a good idea to stack weaker units with stronger ones....

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 25, 2020, 11:06:06 AM
Thanks BH. I wasn't selecting a target...just the tip one.

Choosing a target is the key ingredient I was missing here

 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: mirth on May 25, 2020, 11:08:43 AM
So, it's not always, read: rarely, a good idea to stack weaker units with stronger ones....

So much this.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on May 25, 2020, 11:18:48 AM
So, it's not always, read: rarely, a good idea to stack weaker units with stronger ones....

So much this.

Yeah, in fact the only units that should be stacked are Pact heavy armour as they can then use the "volley fire" tactic. For everybody else it just leads to the second unit taking hits without saves....
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 31, 2020, 09:00:07 AM
This is a superb game. The more I play, the more I want to play.

A couple of things that bug me - really, really minor things

That is all. Like I said - very minor - just little things that nip occasionally when I play. But such a good game and the rules are getting solid now. I'm having to refer less to the manual.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on May 31, 2020, 12:32:02 PM
It really is a solid system. And the scenarios are fun and interesting.

I’m playing the second monster from Defence of Frankfurt with NATO on the attack. Great fun.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on May 31, 2020, 03:12:59 PM
I'm just having a cracking time playing scenarios. I've not even considered the campaign or defense of Frankfurt
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on June 02, 2020, 05:05:09 PM
It really is a solid system. And the scenarios are fun and interesting.

I’m playing the second monster from Defence of Frankfurt with NATO on the attack. Great fun.  :bigthumb:
How do you go with identifying units under Ops Complete markers when they activate - especially in such a big scenario?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on June 02, 2020, 05:21:41 PM
It really is a solid system. And the scenarios are fun and interesting.

I’m playing the second monster from Defence of Frankfurt with NATO on the attack. Great fun.  :bigthumb:
How do you go with identifying units under Ops Complete markers when they activate - especially in such a big scenario?

I try to place the Ops Complete markers turned 45 degrees to the stack. That will allow some of the colour strip to show.
Mostly though, I end up just trying to remember where a formation is and moving a few OC markers to check.
I don’t really find it a problem wth the board game.
On VASSAL though I really don’t like the OC markers to be the same size as the counters. There they should be 1/2 size or smaller.

Weird that it bothered more on th digital copy than the physical.....
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on June 03, 2020, 01:29:26 AM
It really is a solid system. And the scenarios are fun and interesting.

I’m playing the second monster from Defence of Frankfurt with NATO on the attack. Great fun.  :bigthumb:
How do you go with identifying units under Ops Complete markers when they activate - especially in such a big scenario?

I try to place the Ops Complete markers turned 45 degrees to the stack. That will allow some of the colour strip to show.
Mostly though, I end up just trying to remember where a formation is and moving a few OC markers to check.
I don’t really find it a problem wth the board game.
On VASSAL though I really don’t like the OC markers to be the same size as the counters. There they should be 1/2 size or smaller.

Weird that it bothered more on th digital copy than the physical.....
Maybe because as you say - on the physical copy you turn the counter 45 degrees which allows you to mostly get a handle on the unit underneath when the digital version doesn't allow that.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on June 03, 2020, 06:22:09 AM
Can you mod the VASSAL counters so they're turned 45deg as well?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on June 03, 2020, 06:27:03 AM
Can you mod the VASSAL counters so they're turned 45deg as well?

If (read: when) I mod the VASSAL counters, all the admin ones will be half size.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Staggerwing on June 03, 2020, 06:46:22 AM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on June 03, 2020, 06:55:25 AM
I've just looked and noticed that there's an option to use a small version of the Ops Complete. You have to edit the module and select nthe properties for the Ops Complete counter.

I didn't see any option for the Out of Command counter.

I don't know how else to get to the graphics resources...I assume they're in the vmod file?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on June 03, 2020, 07:42:18 AM
For some board games I use small, semi-clear plastic chips like the picture below to mark units that have move/fired, etc. You can find them dirt cheap in mass quantities. They are clear enough to see the information (and color if you use the right chip) on the counters below them.

(https://www.aarcentral.com/pics3/plasticchips.jpg)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on June 03, 2020, 07:50:56 AM
I've just looked and noticed that there's an option to use a small version of the Ops Complete. You have to edit the module and select nthe properties for the Ops Complete counter.

I didn't see any option for the Out of Command counter.

I don't know how else to get to the graphics resources...I assume they're in the vmod file?

If you change the extension from .vmod to .zip you can use any zip file handler to view he contents. All the graphics are in a folder called "images". I'd just go in there and resize all the counters I wanted to be 1/2 sized.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on June 03, 2020, 08:04:45 AM
Cheers  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on June 03, 2020, 08:05:00 AM
For some board games I use small, semi-clear plastic chips like the picture below to mark units that have move/fired, etc. You can find them dirt cheap in mass quantities. They are clear enough to see the information (and color if you use the right chip) on the counters below them.

(https://www.aarcentral.com/pics3/plasticchips.jpg)
Good tip - thanks
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on June 04, 2020, 05:18:47 PM
How do you have the space for The Defence of Frankfurt? I can literally fit 2 on my wee map board and the rest of the space is used for counters, PACs etc

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49971067548_92219742cd_h.jpg)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on June 04, 2020, 05:28:36 PM
This my setup, 4ft X 8ft Gaming table with scenario 2 from Defence of Frankfurt running.
Charts and rule book live on the stools while I stand and walk around the table to play.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on June 04, 2020, 06:06:31 PM
 :bigthumb:

An error that has thrown me on every game.

14.7.2 - Strike Procedure...
In the manual it states
Light & Heavy Armor roll only for defensive Bonuses for terrain type (see 10.6.8) and concealment (see 10.6.13). They do NOT use their Armor/Save value but instead take an additional 1d6 Defensive Bonus, subject to the Maximum Defensive Bonus (see 10.6.14)

However, that threw me because I was unsure what to use as the Save value as it clearly states you don't use the Armor/Save value. I've been rolling on a 6 because the manual states NOT to use the save value! (and errata doesn't correct it)

There is no amendment for this in the Errata...but it is different in the online manual.

• Light & Heavy Armor do NOT
use their Armor value (though
they do use their Save value
) but
roll only for Defensive Bonuses
for terrain type (see 10.6.8) and
concealment (see10.6.13). They
also receive an additional 1d6
Defensive Bonus, all subject to the
Maximum Defensive Bonus (see.
10.6.14)


Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on June 04, 2020, 08:34:08 PM
This my setup, 4ft X 8ft Gaming table with scenario 2 from Defence of Frankfurt running.
Charts and rule book live on the stools while I stand and walk around the table to play.

Showoff!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on June 05, 2020, 01:28:53 PM
This my setup, 4ft X 8ft Gaming table with scenario 2 from Defence of Frankfurt running.
Charts and rule book live on the stools while I stand and walk around the table to play.
Do you play with the Solo Assistant?I often find myself (more often than not) using my judgement call...as it says in the manual. For example, following the rules, I had a whole formation sitting going nowhere because the Allies had a helicopter hanging around. Eventually I used my "judgment call" and determined that they wouldn't be sitting around trying to fire at this thing (they were tanks and APCs - not AA units, so their attack value was severely limited) - they'd be heading for cover.

I'll be honest - I'm not feeling the love for the Solo Assistant in this particular game. In LnL Tactical, I found it superb. But like I said - I seem to be employing my judgement more often than not. It kind of makes me resent even wasting the time to pull the card and check. I'd rather just say "Does that unit know those forces are there? No, then move down the road" or "That's a helicopter and it's killing us - lets GTF out of dodge".

Also - I measured my table and I can't even fit the Defence of Frankfurt on my dining room table  :'(

Have you tried the campaign system yet with The Drive on Giesen?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on June 05, 2020, 01:58:33 PM
This my setup, 4ft X 8ft Gaming table with scenario 2 from Defence of Frankfurt running.
Charts and rule book live on the stools while I stand and walk around the table to play.
Do you play with the Solo Assistant?I often find myself (more often than not) using my judgement call...as it says in the manual. For example, following the rules, I had a whole formation sitting going nowhere because the Allies had a helicopter hanging around. Eventually I used my "judgment call" and determined that they wouldn't be sitting around trying to fire at this thing (they were tanks and APCs - not AA units, so their attack value was severely limited) - they'd be heading for cover.

I'll be honest - I'm not feeling the love for the Solo Assistant in this particular game. In LnL Tactical, I found it superb. But like I said - I seem to be employing my judgement more often than not. It kind of makes me resent even wasting the time to pull the card and check. I'd rather just say "Does that unit know those forces are there? No, then move down the road" or "That's a helicopter and it's killing us - lets GTF out of dodge".

Also - I measured my table and I can't even fit the Defence of Frankfurt on my dining room table  :'(

Have you tried the campaign system yet with The Drive on Giesen?

I haven't tried the Solo Assistant yet. Just playing each formation as it comes up. I have overall plans for each side but that is just a narrative in my head. The chit draw systems lets me dod the best possible at that moment for the formation drawn.

I have not tried the Campaign yet. Maybe you and I could do a Forum Play game of it. Keeping some info secret and let the others follow along and kibitz.  :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on June 27, 2020, 06:16:32 PM
I'm so glad I picked this lot up for (about) £130 on Kickstarter!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50052016101_31973fafd4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jfVEAR)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on June 27, 2020, 06:35:37 PM
Yep!  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on June 27, 2020, 06:40:44 PM
+100  :applause:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on June 27, 2020, 06:49:46 PM
And it is such a good game. I'm really looking forward to going back to it - and whilst I love new games,  they get in the way of classics.

That's why I can't understand why I buy alot of games. I have some crackers

Combat!
World at War '85
LnL Tactical - several editions...Vietnam, WWII, Day of Heroes, Falklands
Company of Heroes
Phantom Leader

and yet - it's just not enough. Why do we behave like this? I like those systems I have. I don't really think they're lacking anything or that I'm gaining anything else (apart from a new procedures with new rules and new components) by getting new games. It's not like the new games I get are going to enhance my gaming much more than I already have with my current selection.

Why - why do we do it? Serious question.

I've pretty much got a decent mix of games that I'm very happy with and anything else I'm looking at (for example Front Toward Enemy, The Last Hundred Yards and Old School Tactical) will provide different components, a different sequence of play, different tangible qualities and different mechanics (albeit - sometimes very limited in difference).

In fact furnishing myself with other games simply reduces the quality of the games I already have - and almost very superficially.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on June 27, 2020, 07:01:28 PM
oh - and on the back of that post I've just bought Old School Tactical Vol III and Hell Bent!!

I mean - what is wrong with me...these are just new systems to work out and engage with - taking me away from the already familiar!!

IO could forgive myself when I bought LnL Tactical Falklands...and then bought LnL Heroes of the Nam and then Day of Heroes - they are all the same system with small nuances....but buying into a new game mechanic altogether just seems fruitless.

I am ill  :-[
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bbmike on June 27, 2020, 07:05:14 PM
Ill? No, I would say:

(https://memecrunch.com/meme/22D8M/one-of-us/image.jpg?w=400&c=1)

 >:D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on June 28, 2020, 07:17:07 AM
Welcome to Game Buyers Anonymous JD. We’re to help you through this difficult time of denial and help you embrace the Cult of the New.

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: BanzaiCat on June 28, 2020, 10:13:51 AM

Why - why do we do it? Serious question.


Because we can?

Because it's nice to buy things we couldn't previously?

Because we like to have options?

Because we have an uncontrollable problem akin to heroin addiction and get the itchy-itchies when we go without buying a new game for a week (your mileage may vary) or so?

*we*

 :D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on June 28, 2020, 10:25:48 AM
It's my counter to my wife's shie and purse buying.  :whistle:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on June 28, 2020, 05:17:16 PM

Why - why do we do it? Serious question.


Because we can?

Because it's nice to buy things we couldn't previously?

Because we like to have options?

Because we have an uncontrollable problem akin to heroin addiction and get the itchy-itchies when we go without buying a new game for a week (your mileage may vary) or so?

*we*

 :D
I know I was being totally irrational  :D

I just thought - get used to a system - and enjoy that system - and then buy another game to learn a new system.

I've probably played no more than 2 scenarios of most of the games I have...only Phantom Leader and Combat! stick in my mind as having had more table time. I've been reading the rules for Front Toward Enemy for the last week or so - and now I've got it to the table, I'm already looking forward to learning and playing both The Last Hundred Yards and Old School Tactical.

But on the other hand, I'm really wanting to go back to Combat!, LnL WaW 85, LnL Tactical. Hell Day of Heroes hasn't even had the rules read yet.

I just wish I could say no more and play the very, very good games I already have.

Alas - it seems I'm not that strong.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Arctic Blast on June 30, 2020, 06:30:10 PM
And it is such a good game. I'm really looking forward to going back to it - and whilst I love new games,  they get in the way of classics.

That's why I can't understand why I buy alot of games. I have some crackers

Combat!
World at War '85
LnL Tactical - several editions...Vietnam, WWII, Day of Heroes, Falklands
Company of Heroes
Phantom Leader

and yet - it's just not enough. Why do we behave like this? I like those systems I have. I don't really think they're lacking anything or that I'm gaining anything else (apart from a new procedures with new rules and new components) by getting new games. It's not like the new games I get are going to enhance my gaming much more than I already have with my current selection.

Why - why do we do it? Serious question.

I've pretty much got a decent mix of games that I'm very happy with and anything else I'm looking at (for example Front Toward Enemy, The Last Hundred Yards and Old School Tactical) will provide different components, a different sequence of play, different tangible qualities and different mechanics (albeit - sometimes very limited in difference).

In fact furnishing myself with other games simply reduces the quality of the games I already have - and almost very superficially.

Because we're all hopeless degenerates.  ;D
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 04, 2020, 06:48:08 PM
Since it's a long weekend, would anyone be interested in a TTS game.  I've not had time to sit down to learn so either we'll be learning together or someone to beat the rules into me :)

Yes,  I have the whole kickstarter set. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 04, 2020, 06:55:36 PM
Yeah! Early Monday is probably best for me But how about you.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 04, 2020, 07:04:36 PM
Monday's a holiday, so I can probably make it work. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 04, 2020, 09:28:06 PM
TTS?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 04, 2020, 11:43:55 PM
Yes tts
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 05, 2020, 07:47:07 PM
What time are you thinking Barth.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 05, 2020, 07:59:09 PM
Morning? What time zone you in? I’m usually up early even on weekends. But Monday is supposed to rain most of the day so any time would work. No real plans for the day.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 06, 2020, 12:50:55 PM
I'm eastern time zone, so same as you. How about 830 or 9.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on September 06, 2020, 04:01:24 PM
add some extra slots, so I can come watch if I remember.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 06, 2020, 04:42:43 PM
8:30 sounds good.
I have no idea how to add slots.... ??? I can barely run the game.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on September 07, 2020, 08:40:28 PM
8:30 sounds good.
I have no idea how to add slots.... ??? I can barely run the game.

Thanks for letting me watch, that was cool.

Now I'm bummed, I didn't get this Boardgame addiction till ater that kickstarter!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 08, 2020, 08:51:57 AM
Barth, thanks playing and teaching.  We'll have to do that some more.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on September 08, 2020, 09:09:24 AM
8:30 sounds good.
I have no idea how to add slots.... ??? I can barely run the game.

Thanks for letting me watch, that was cool.

Now I'm bummed, I didn't get this Boardgame addiction till ater that kickstarter!
And there was soooooooooooooooooo much game in that kick starter!  :doh:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 08, 2020, 09:59:11 AM
Barth, thanks playing and teaching.  We'll have to do that some more.

No problem. I was a bit rusty, too many game rules stuffed into aging brain.
I've started making scenario setups in TTS. Of course I started with the large scenarios...  :idiot2: Scenario 19 - The Rhine is almost complete. It could easily be a 4 player game, Russian and East German vs US and West German.

Maybe we can con Tuna into playing.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 08, 2020, 09:59:55 AM
8:30 sounds good.
I have no idea how to add slots.... ??? I can barely run the game.

Thanks for letting me watch, that was cool.

Now I'm bummed, I didn't get this Boardgame addiction till ater that kickstarter!
And there was soooooooooooooooooo much game in that kick starter!  :doh:

Hoping the next one is just as much gaming for the dollar.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on September 08, 2020, 11:16:37 AM
8:30 sounds good.
I have no idea how to add slots.... ??? I can barely run the game.

Thanks for letting me watch, that was cool.

Now I'm bummed, I didn't get this Boardgame addiction till ater that kickstarter!
And there was soooooooooooooooooo much game in that kick starter!  :doh:

Hoping the next one is just as much gaming for the dollar.  :bigthumb:
Say what now?

Have I not been paying attention to my requested KickStarter thread?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 08, 2020, 12:13:02 PM
8:30 sounds good.
I have no idea how to add slots.... ??? I can barely run the game.

Thanks for letting me watch, that was cool.

Now I'm bummed, I didn't get this Boardgame addiction till ater that kickstarter!
And there was soooooooooooooooooo much game in that kick starter!  :doh:

Hoping the next one is just as much gaming for the dollar.  :bigthumb:
Say what now?

Have I not been paying attention to my requested KickStarter thread?

No, not on KS yet... but soon....
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on September 08, 2020, 12:17:51 PM
Nudge me...vigorously  :whistle:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 08, 2020, 01:14:19 PM
Nudge me...vigorously  :whistle:

or keep an eye on the Tuesday Newsday updates, as it'll probably be the headline story that week  :biggrin:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on September 08, 2020, 01:41:04 PM
Any info on what it's about? Link maybe so I can find out?  :hehe:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 09, 2020, 10:54:11 PM
Barth, thanks playing and teaching.  We'll have to do that some more.

No problem. I was a bit rusty, too many game rules stuffed into aging brain.
I've started making scenario setups in TTS. Of course I started with the large scenarios...  :idiot2: Scenario 19 - The Rhine is almost complete. It could easily be a 4 player game, Russian and East German vs US and West German.

Maybe we can con Tuna into playing.

OK, scenario 19 all setup. Who wants to play?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on September 09, 2020, 11:36:31 PM
Sign me up!
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 10, 2020, 06:23:56 AM
Cool.  :bigthumb:

OJsDad? Tuna?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 10, 2020, 07:46:33 AM
Yep, I'd like a go at it. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on September 10, 2020, 07:56:30 AM
This weekend?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 10, 2020, 03:20:20 PM
This weekend I can do Friday night or Sunday morning.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 10, 2020, 08:53:34 PM
Sunday morning is out for me.  Fridays can be hit and miss.  Please don't let my absence keep you all from playing though.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on September 10, 2020, 11:17:07 PM
I'm good with either as long as Sunday morning isn't too early. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 11, 2020, 06:42:08 AM
How about 8 EDT tonight?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on September 11, 2020, 07:24:19 AM
ok
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on September 11, 2020, 08:04:15 AM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on September 11, 2020, 09:52:23 AM
SInce no Jim, Discord?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 11, 2020, 10:30:37 AM
No Steam Chat.. I don't do Discord.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 11, 2020, 11:04:50 AM
I don't do Discord.

he's Canadian; they prefer to all get along.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on September 11, 2020, 12:03:43 PM
So I get to continue to have issues with communication  >:(
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 11, 2020, 12:40:39 PM
So I get to continue to have issues with communication  >:(

How can Discord work for you and Steam Chat not?
I hear you just fine in the SNF sessions...  ???
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on September 11, 2020, 01:07:59 PM
So I get to continue to have issues with communication  >:(

How can Discord work for you and Steam Chat not?
I hear you just fine in the SNF sessions...  ???

Don't know why, I'm even on different computers (youngest is back at college, so instead of going down cellar to my PC, I've been using his the last few weeks). I think the 'quality' of Steam is much better out of the box. Discord to me seems a little bit tinny in that regard. But many time when we are playing. Jim's voice or sometimes OJs will start being garbled. Sometimes it just loses it completely, i.e.  you guys can't hear me either (this happened with me, OJD and Dalinor in our post game chat the other day). Again, when Steam is working, it's great quality wise, but the intermittent problems suck. I've never had these problems on discord.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 11, 2020, 05:44:32 PM
I"ll be joining tonight.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 11, 2020, 07:04:10 PM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on September 11, 2020, 07:24:51 PM
Which TTS version or WAW85 are we using?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 11, 2020, 07:37:32 PM
TTS table I built from their parts. I'll set it up... I hope...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 12, 2020, 09:08:00 AM
This is has been fun so far.  We've made it through turn 4 of 20 and played about 3.5 hours.  That may sound slow, but we had a couple of technical issues that turn about half an hour.  Also, Tuna and I new to the game, so we're still learning and getting the hang of it, though turn 4 went quicker. 

I think the one rule that needs to be looked at is the electronic warfare one.  The card has come up four times, 3 against all three Warsaw Pact formations, and once against a NATO formation.  This has really slowed things down since each hex that has an effected unit has to be checked each turn.  It also means that the WP units haven't gotten to within two or three hexes of any objectives yet.  I suggested that once it's used, that the card stays out of the deck for 2 or 3 turns.  SDR suggested that it stays out until the targeted formation is no longer impacted. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on September 12, 2020, 03:24:42 PM
Should refresh step not happen until the formation card is drawn (activation), as opposed to beginning of the turn?

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 13, 2020, 09:52:27 AM
Hey Tuna.
What is shown in that video is what happens when you draw a formation card.

At the end of a turn, though, there is a step called Marker Removal Phase. In this phase you remove Ops Complete and Out of Command markers from everyone on the board. This is in section 2.3 of the WaW85 rulebook for those of you that have it.

The Nations at War system will have a similar phase at the end of every turn.

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on September 13, 2020, 11:02:52 AM
So if a unit does an Opp Fire, and then later it's Formation is activated, it removes the token and can do something again in that same turn?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 13, 2020, 12:14:53 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on September 13, 2020, 02:13:45 PM
 :bigthumb:
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on September 17, 2020, 09:47:19 AM
we going to try and continue Friday night?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 17, 2020, 09:58:23 AM
I could do an early Friday night. Say start at 6pm EDT? Play for a couple of hours.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on September 17, 2020, 10:27:03 AM
hmm, that may be tight, but maybe.. depends on what time I head out to get takeout. Better from the 'dog' perspective (wife would still be up).
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 17, 2020, 10:45:58 AM
I'll have to check with my wife and see what we're doing tomorrow night. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 17, 2020, 10:49:35 AM
Could always move to 6:30 or 7 EDT if it's easier.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on September 17, 2020, 08:05:35 PM
that's going to be a bit too early for me.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 18, 2020, 08:41:45 AM
I'm good for tonight.  Just let me know what time.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 18, 2020, 11:39:02 AM
Is Sat. afternoon/morning better for all? I'm free from 10am to 3pm EDT.

I can't play past 7 pm tonight now....
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 18, 2020, 04:48:48 PM
Now I’m going to an auto-cross at 10:30 on Sat. Should be home by noonish.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: tuna on September 18, 2020, 05:04:14 PM
Now I’m going to an auto-cross at 10:30 on Sat. Should be home by noonish.

That 9am for SDR, he okay with it?
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on September 18, 2020, 05:09:24 PM
I’ll make an effort but no promises.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: ojsdad on September 18, 2020, 06:47:57 PM
I'm not sure that I'll be around.  Need to go to town at some point for groceries.  I can never get my wife to get going noon. 
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Barthheart on September 19, 2020, 09:45:27 AM
Probably not gonna make it today either...Honey Do list keeps getting longer...
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on September 19, 2020, 11:34:13 AM
I’m not going to be able to make it by 9.
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on September 21, 2020, 02:54:14 PM
This guy's videos make me want to go back to World at War 85  :'(

Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: Tolstoi on September 22, 2020, 12:17:24 AM
This guy's videos make me want to go back to World at War 85  :'(

I've heard about this game quite a bit and I never took the time to investigate it. It reminds me of a print version of On Target Simulations' Flashpoint Campaigns. Those counters look great! How large are they? Watching the replay as I type and the Fencer attacks the improved TOW eliminating it. Not good.

Looks like an interesting game. I hope you get back to it soon.  :)
Title: Re: LnLP World at War Series reboot
Post by: judgedredd on September 22, 2020, 02:36:01 AM
I can't remember specifically the size of the counters - but "nice n big" covers it

Just checked the website
http://store.lnlpublishing.com/world-at-war-85-series/world-at-war-85-vol-1-storming-the-gap

3/4 of an inch