Author Topic: RAF:Battle of Britain  (Read 1149 times)

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Reply #30 on: November 08, 2020, 07:49:16 AM
I'll see if I can find a happy medium.....

Seriously, don't wreck your enjoyment of the game to entertain us. Just play and have fun and maybe tell us the highlights when yer done.
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Reply #31 on: November 08, 2020, 08:25:50 AM
^ What he said.  :2thumbs:

Very enjoyable read  just as it is. Makes me wish I had time (and space) to bust out my copy and play.

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Reply #32 on: November 08, 2020, 11:49:26 AM
Solution: get the two computer adaptations (RAF:Lion, RAF:Eagle) and let the computer do the heavy lifting!   8)

(.....they may or may not be staring at me from near the bottom of a stack just out of arm's reach for two or more years already...)



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Reply #33 on: November 14, 2020, 10:26:42 AM
Just finished my first play through of RAF Eagle. It ended on 29th August as a decisive victory for the RAF as the VPs went to +35 (RAF) which is Luftwaffe Elimination (-35 would've been RAF Elimination).

The Luftwaffe were at Depletion Level two. Whilst that doesn't affect the amount of aircraft they have, it does affect them badly on the combat chart.

A tried many different tactics for the Luftwaffe which likely assisted in their demise as there wasn't a strong strategy. I tried smaller bomber Gruppen with larger fighter Gruppen. I tried using Close Escort. I tried large bomber forces with lower fighter Gruppen.

What I think I came out with - which was kind of too late - was that a strong fighter force with less bombers would work better as they would tend to keep the RAF fighters at bay and leave the bombers to their job. Having now written that, it makes sense but during the game and in trying to find a good, strong strategy or collection of strategies - none showed. Also in the times I did have a small bomber force with larger fighters, that strategy itself was often scuppered due to event cards or strong RAF response.

When I used alot of bombers, I didn't tend to get left alone. Often the RAF would come through the hunters and catch me out - preventing most bombers from making the target at all. I never, ever had more fighters than bombers - but I did sometimes have only 1 or two fighters. Also Me-109s were always assigned to Channel Patrol with more than 2 bombers...so that often reduced the fighters in the Hunt Box to deal with the RAF and prevent them getting through to the bombers.

Anyway - I thoroughly enjoyed that.

I will be trying this again using the low bomber max fighter strategy to see how that pans out.

First - wish me luck - I'm going to have a quick setup and try out of Fields of Fire!!  :idiot2:

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Reply #34 on: November 14, 2020, 10:56:21 AM
Focusing on the RAF airfields is usually a good strategy for the German side, as it would have been historically had they stuck to that and not switched to attacking London and other urban targets.

I think that's more dramatic when playing the RAF side, as you're hoping/praying Hitler and company will change their target priorities to give your airfields a break!



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Reply #35 on: November 14, 2020, 10:59:01 AM
Yep, gaining air superiority should have been his first priority.

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Reply #36 on: November 14, 2020, 12:55:27 PM
Focusing on the RAF airfields is usually a good strategy for the German side, as it would have been historically had they stuck to that and not switched to attacking London and other urban targets.

I think that's more dramatic when playing the RAF side, as you're hoping/praying Hitler and company will change their target priorities to give your airfields a break!
Yep...but unfortunately Day Cards did change priorities. I did focus on airfields when I could.

The last day,  for example, I attacked Biggin Hill 4 times. The first time with 3 bombers and 8 fighters. That first time resulted in just 1 VP and damage point due to a multitude of things (e.g. failure to rendezvous resulting in all B Gruppen leaving the raid and a good RAF response)

So even when I was able to do something right,  something went wrong

That's what I loved about it though. I'm excited to try it again and properly focus on airfields from early on and try and get the bomber/fighter mix right...which i think was my main failure. Whenever I had airfields in the mix  I went for them but I don't think I went with enough fighter cover to take care of the interceptors

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Reply #37 on: November 14, 2020, 01:26:21 PM
Actually, I'm that interested to see if it was my bomber/fighter mix that I'm going to play again  :doh:

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Reply #38 on: November 14, 2020, 03:38:04 PM
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Reply #39 on: November 14, 2020, 03:54:22 PM
Be interesting to see how that goes, JD. It really seems to be a great game on the subject.

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Reply #40 on: November 14, 2020, 05:55:11 PM
Well - Day 1 went without a bang really. Lots of airfield targets (4 iirc) but not much damage. What I did do, with reduced bombers and more fighters was keep the RAF VP's down by limiting Luftwaffe losses.

This is Day 2


I have 5 Airfields being targeted - plus the 0600 Port attack because I'm attacking the Secondary target on that card. That's 6 attacks on airfields. 4 of those are major raids with 10 Gruppen - 3 Bomber Gruppen, 6 Me109 Gruppen and 1 Me110 just for Close Escort. Only having 3 bombers means I only have to assign 1 Me109 to Channel Patrol - leaving 6 to hunt.

As for the minor raids, I've selected 1 bomber and 2 fighters. Last game, I tried 3 unescorted bombers...and it didn't go well obviously. Now I'm taking minor raids more seriously. They won't give big returns but they have the potential to chip away at the VPs.

I'll post an update tomorrow - let you know how the Jerries are doing (I don't think I've called them that since I used to read Commando comics back when I was 10).
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Reply #41 on: November 16, 2020, 10:44:55 AM
This is more interesting than the real battle.  :bigthumb:

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Reply #42 on: November 16, 2020, 02:25:14 PM
So...go figure...more escorts meant a better outcome for the Luftwaffe. The RAF were hammered...not being able to react at all to the last 3 raids.

On top of that, the Luftwaffe are up 19 VPs. That's almost game over.

Although I said it was Day 2, it was actually Day 6 (Aug 16th) because at the end of Aug 11th, the first day, I pulled a day card which advanced the days by 5.

The next day is Day 8 (Aug 18th). There was some respite for the RAF. They were able to recover all squadrons except 3 that were heavily mauled. They are now in Light Loss and won't be available until the next day.

Of course the Luftwaffe was also able to recover.

RAF have 13 Hurricane Sqn replacements,  6 Spitfire replacements and only 1 Experienced Pilot point left.

The Luftwaffe have 12 Fighter replacements and 11 Bomber replacements.

Although the RAF recovered most of their Sqns, I think the flow of the battle seems to be against them.

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Reply #43 on: November 16, 2020, 02:28:10 PM
I'm glad they didn't do that for real or we'd all be talking in funny accents and growing moustaches.................

..oh wait....

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Reply #44 on: November 16, 2020, 05:30:19 PM
So this is Day 8 (Aug 18th)



Morning Haze is in effect so there are no air raids up to 10:00. It also means the German Raid draw is reduced from 10 to 8. This turned out ok for the RAF as there were only 2 major raids and 3 minor raids in the mix.

However due to the German Strategy Cards, Major Raid Coordination converted one raid from Minor to Major - 12:00 Worth Radar Net 2. Also, they have a Decoy Raid at 10:00 which will take Sqns away from responding to other raids.

There's also Ace Me109 Gruppen  which will give Me109 Gruppen and advantage in the attack against Beachy Head and Pathfinders which gives the bombers an advantage during bombing Hornchurch

The day finishes off with a couple of Minor raids at 14:00 and 16:00 against Kenley and Debden

It's going to be a tough day for the RAF. That Decoy Raid will swallow up 2 Sqns from 6/11...a key supplier of responding Sqns.

This is the state of play on the VP track and the Replacements tracks. The (-) mark on the VP counter shows the VPs belong to the Germans.



The significance of such a low Experienced Pilots level is that Sqns returning from Light Loss will be flipped to their reduced side. Also - only one reduced Sqn can be sent on an engagement

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